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  • crzbrave
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-24-09
    • 755

    #1
    Bovada sent me a message last night I never have gotten before
    After careful investigation and deliberation, our Book Managers have made the decision to reduce your wagering limits; these adjustments may vary from market to market.

    In addition, we'd also like to call your attention to a change in our Player Commitment, specifically as it pertains to the cancellation of wagers affected by a pre-match line error. Moving forward our Book Managers reserve the right to cancel any wagers, deemed to be placed with the sole purpose of taking advantage of an error.

    We can assure you decisions of this nature are not made in haste and we appreciate your understanding.

    Warm Regards,
    Bovada Customer Service
    service@bovada.lv


    won 5 k in. 2 weeks on a heater of the year betting 400-700 game

    Won a live wager on Pitt Sunday night 400

    Last night AZ 400





    What is this bullshit ?

    The book has every advantage for live betting

    I bet two good lines on a 15 second delay My TV



    And I had 3 withdrawals this month



    Do they just really not like winners ?

    93 % of money deposited in sportsbooks never leave


    Wager
    They're gonna freeroll me saying they can cancel any wager

    No more live betting for me are they really mad I won a couple live games for 400 a piece

    Can still bet big it looks like this message was more about them saying they can cancel my live wagers or acting like I did something wrong
  • Orbison
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-20
    • 4691

    #2
    sorry to hear it. what are your new limits if you don't mind saying?
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    • PD77
      SBR MVP
      • 12-11-09
      • 2380

      #3
      Merry Christmas! Their timing is impeccable.
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      • unlearn
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-22-14
        • 9033

        #4
        Gave me the boot about 6 months ago after raping them for years. New management I guess?
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        • crzbrave
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-24-09
          • 755

          #5
          It doesn't look like the limits have changed much i can still bet max 3 k it loos like when I press max bet
          But I haven't tried to place anything

          They are shady af I think it's bout the second part of their message
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          • Natty68
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-11-14
            • 550

            #6
            Seriously?? I'm shocked.... you successfully attacked Bovada's live market and they let you win THAT MUCH? Normally you're gone in about three hours. YES. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT ALLOW WINNERS THERE. Sorry.
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            • PD77
              SBR MVP
              • 12-11-09
              • 2380

              #7
              Originally posted by crzbrave
              It doesn't look like the limits have changed much i can still bet max 3 k it loos like when I press max bet
              But I haven't tried to place anything

              They are shady af I think it's bout the second part of their message
              They could always do that and did that to players and even had the backing of this site to justify it.
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              • crzbrave
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-24-09
                • 755

                #8
                No more live betting for me. On my 15 second TV delay and their slow rate of accepting or rejecting my wagers they have every advantage and I have every disadvantage they can cancel or freeroll me over some 400 dollar bets
                And they're raking in millions and they're worried about my Lil potatoes
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61461

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PD77

                  They could always do that and did that to players and even had the backing of this site to justify it.
                  The message says it is about pre-match bets.

                  The OP talking about live for some reason.


                  Sounds like he bet a bad line and they are telling him dont do that on purpose or they may cancel the bet in future.

                  Don't like that policy, don't bet offshore, as all of them have similar policies.

                  Bovada not known for taking advantage of people with the rule though. They seem to honor bets unless it's a crazy obvious error or the person looks like they obviously target them. Adding the bad line to 30 different parlays for example.
                  .
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82785

                    #10
                    If you bet a bad line and the bet loses do you get an email from them apologizing to you and canceling your bet?

                    They need to be consinstent. If they cancel bets when you win on a bad line they should also cancel bets when the bad line you bet loses.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Part of the game
                      If you do not like it play with the big boys like bookmaker or credit account pinnacle
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                      • CJ
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-21-13
                        • 1261

                        #12
                        Bovada is an absolute trash book and your account is now burned. Had this happen to my old account and they progressively increased the limits from 50% to 90% to 99%.

                        I highly recommend you cash out (if they even let you) and find another book.

                        On a side note: only a complete asshole would actually defend Bovada at this point. I've seen them fail to cancel bets when people mistakenly took an incorrect line the other way many times. They're criminals.
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                        • CJ
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-21-13
                          • 1261

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Part of the game
                          If you do not like it play with the big boys like bookmaker or credit account pinnacle
                          Bookmaker, conversely is extremely credible. Highly recommend anyone still on Bovada move their business to BM.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Yes
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                            • BuckyOne
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-02-15
                              • 2728

                              #15
                              Cash 80% in. Collect it and then send them an email.

                              Gentlemen:

                              If you guys ever cancel one of my bets, it will be the last one! I will immediately close my account. If I am not there to play weak lines ? How are you going to know you have a weak line???

                              Sincerely,


                              XXXXXX
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                              • Nate rasta
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-30-22
                                • 2953

                                #16
                                ^^^ they don't care. They'll probably be happy to see him go
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                                • CJ
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-21-13
                                  • 1261

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nate rasta
                                  ^^^ they don't care. They'll probably be happy to see him go
                                  This.

                                  He's already been limited, they want him gone.
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                                  • juicername
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-14-15
                                    • 6906

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    If you bet a bad line and the bet loses do you get an email from them apologizing to you and canceling your bet?

                                    They need to be consinstent. If they cancel bets when you win on a bad line they should also cancel bets when the bad line you bet loses.
                                    Disagree. The reverse freeroll is their way of discouraging shot takers from taking advantage of obvious bad lines.
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                                    • mjsuax13
                                      Moderator
                                      • 03-14-15
                                      • 25093

                                      #19
                                      Only message I ever got from BOVADA is reload instructions. Bah humbug.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        What is a Bad line?

                                        No definition at all

                                        Gamblers have zero shot of winning

                                        Bet for fun
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                                        • milwaukee mike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 26914

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by CJ
                                          Bookmaker, conversely is extremely credible. Highly recommend anyone still on Bovada move their business to BM.
                                          bookmaker has cancelled a bunch of my prop bets in the past few months, for no reason other than they wanted to move the line and didn't want my action. so they aren't perfect either

                                          bovada my pregame and live limits on a lot of things are like $6

                                          but for the bowl games looks like i can bet 11, thanks bovada, don't want to break your bank over there!
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Everyone does it

                                            What is issue???
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                                            • Brock Landers
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 06-30-08
                                              • 45359

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                              Only message I ever got from BOVADA is reload instructions. Bah humbug.
                                              LOL
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82785

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                What is a Bad line?

                                                No definition at all

                                                Gamblers have zero shot of winning

                                                Bet for fun
                                                There are no bad lines. The book guesses what the line should be and puts it out. Then the gamblers move the line.

                                                What books mean by bad line is a sharp bet one way and if the small fish bet the same way they will have to adjust the line for them.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Paver like I said gamblers have no chance anymore
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                                                  • pologq
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                    • 19899

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                                    Only message I ever got from BOVADA is reload instructions. Bah humbug.
                                                    same. i actually am jealous the OP is successful enough to get that email.
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                                                    • mjsuax13
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 03-14-15
                                                      • 25093

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pologq
                                                      same. i actually am jealous the OP is successful enough to get that email.
                                                      AMEN. Bookmaker I just cashed out though.
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        There are no bad lines. The book guesses what the line should be and puts it out. Then the gamblers move the line.

                                                        What books mean by bad line is a sharp bet one way and if the small fish bet the same way they will have to adjust the line for them.
                                                        well there are obviously bad lines all the time

                                                        let's say someone has celtics 1h tonight at +480 instead of -480... or they have that total at 1185.0 instead of 118.5

                                                        but mistake lines (bad lines) and slightly off lines (which the books call bad lines, so they can cancel them) are totally different
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                                                        • Mike78
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 08-16-20
                                                          • 98

                                                          #29
                                                          I thought Bovada always had a reputation for limiting quickly. It happened to me there after about six months. I did alright...nothing crazy. Never came close to wagering a max limit. Never took advantage of bad lines. Still not entirely sure why I was limited, but didn't think too much about it because of their reputation.

                                                          After being limited, they were good about letting me withdrawal everything at once (they waived their normal policies). I think they just wanted me to leave ASAP!
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            It’s a great rec book
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                                                            • BuckyOne
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-02-15
                                                              • 2728

                                                              #31
                                                              Look at all the square books/candy stores that have went teats up. They try to screw the squares with bad numbers that they will take. Duh, they do not have to screw them with numbers and juice as they will lose anyway.

                                                              They do not want sharps eating their value and they want to just gamble with squares.

                                                              Instead of writing this email they could just as well have put a sign on the front door, "NO SHARPS ALLOWED". They make money by screwing over players!

                                                              Flat out a risk to play in this kind of business model!
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                                                              • d2bets
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 39995

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                bookmaker has cancelled a bunch of my prop bets in the past few months, for no reason other than they wanted to move the line and didn't want my action. so they aren't perfect either

                                                                bovada my pregame and live limits on a lot of things are like $6

                                                                but for the bowl games looks like i can bet 11, thanks bovada, don't want to break your bank over there!
                                                                Whoa!

                                                                In 2+ years I've never had s single wager cancelled by a US book. And you know the stuff I bet, they probably could argue it sometimes.
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                                                                • d2bets
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 39995

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                  well there are obviously bad lines all the time

                                                                  let's say someone has celtics 1h tonight at +480 instead of -480... or they have that total at 1185.0 instead of 118.5

                                                                  but mistake lines (bad lines) and slightly off lines (which the books call bad lines, so they can cancel them) are totally different
                                                                  The distinction I'd draw it if it patently obvious. Like your 1185.0 total for example. As in, even if you knew nothing about ths game or line, can you see the number and know it's an error.

                                                                  So if the real total is 202.5 and it's 212.5, that's not a patent error.
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                                                                  • BuckyOne
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-02-15
                                                                    • 2728

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                    The distinction I'd draw it if it patently obvious. Like your 1185.0 total for example. As in, even if you knew nothing about ths game or line, can you see the number and know it's an error.

                                                                    So if the real total is 202.5 and it's 212.5, that's not a patent error.
                                                                    Yes, but everybody would cancel a line that is ten points off.
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                                                                    • milwaukee mike
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                                      • 26914

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                      Whoa!

                                                                      In 2+ years I've never had s single wager cancelled by a US book. And you know the stuff I bet, they probably could argue it sometimes.
                                                                      i don't even bet anything live at bol/sbag any more, they cancelled a handful of big bets 10-30 minutes after i bet them

                                                                      bookmaker is the one i can no longer trust with anything, i mean how do they justify voiding a bet on harden rebounds? how the heck am i supposed to know the exact correct price, especially if they don't
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