Baylor -3.5 ???? Armed Services Bowl

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  • franz555
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    • 11-13-14
    • 10717

    #1
    Baylor -3.5 ???? Armed Services Bowl
    Big line movement from -6 to where it now sits at -3.5. Its no mystery as to what Air Force will do on offense tonight , run right , run left and run up the middle. Looking at the schedule of both , and the results , shows that Baylor competed against a much tougher foe overall. Coach Aranda has a great defensive track record from his days at LSU and should be able to figure out how to stuff 8 in the box to stiffen Air Force's run attack ? Seems like Baylor should be the obvious choice here to me , but i must be missing something.

    Thoughts appreciated
  • Brock Landers
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    • 06-30-08
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    #2
    Terrible weather in fort Worth tonight

    Cold and miserable
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    • franz555
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      • 11-13-14
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      #3
      Originally posted by Brock Landers
      Terrible weather in fort Worth tonight

      Cold and miserable
      It said that early rain/snow but clear and -8c at game time. Winds are 31km as well at game time , so a passng game is questionable. It shouldnt change Air Force game plan , but alter Baylor attack for sure
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      • pavyracer
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        • 04-12-07
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        #4
        I'd go with Baylor if the weather is cold. The Airforce can't handle cold. The Marines are better suited to cope with cold weather.
        Last edited by pavyracer; 12-22-22, 12:41 PM.
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
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          #5
          Who has better running game?
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          • big joe 1212
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            • 06-01-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            I'd go with Baylor if the weather is cold. The Airforce can't handle cold. The Marines are better suited to cope with cold weather.
            The Air Force Academy is in Colorado Springs. I'm sure they will be fine handling cold air. These are students, not airmen who have been pampered.
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            • Otters27
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              • 07-14-07
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              #7
              Ya. Baylor has to be the play.
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              • Four33
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                • 06-13-19
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                #8
                Baylor fan here… we fired out d coordinator couple weeks ago…missing two d line tonight… and our qb has been crap all year…
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                • TheMoneyShot
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                  #9
                  Franz I thought you were just a soccer expert? You good at all sports?
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                  • DrunkHorseplayer
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                    #10
                    Over 43 looks like the best play.
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                    • franz555
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                      • 11-13-14
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                      Franz I thought you were just a soccer expert? You good at all sports?
                      Good at all sports ?

                      Hell no , im still working on soccer , and lately , bad at best
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                      • TheMoneyShot
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                        • 02-14-07
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by franz555
                        Good at all sports ?

                        Hell no , im still working on soccer , and lately , bad at best
                        It's all good. Just asking. I liked Air Force +3.5... But I decided to stay away from the game. Changed my mind to Jacksonville +2.5 Good Luck... hope you win with whatever you select today.
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                        • Renegades
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                          • 10-12-11
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Four33
                          Baylor fan here… we fired out d coordinator couple weeks ago…missing two d line tonight… and our qb has been crap all year…
                          yeah Schappen is all over the place. He misses a lot of throws
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                          • stevenash
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                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65526

                            #14
                            Flyboys on the money line ftw.

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                            • stevenash
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                              • 01-17-11
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              I'd go with Baylor if the weather is cold. The Airforce can't handle cold. The Marines are better suited to cope with cold weather.
                              Marines don't have a service academy, they're part of the Naval Academy.
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                              • Renegades
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                                • 10-12-11
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                                #16
                                Service academies are an auto play in the bowls. Play all of them for the next 20 yrs and you will be + money
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                                • franz555
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                                  • 11-13-14
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Four33
                                  Baylor fan here… we fired out d coordinator couple weeks ago…missing two d line tonight… and our qb has been crap all year…
                                  I had the opportunity to watch their game against TCU back in mid Nov. They played outstanding on both sides of the ball that day. Lost it late 29 - 28 , but that team , that day , would kick the sh*t out of this Air Force team imo. Plenty of factors with location , weather , and missing D linemen , but surely they are still a step up in class for AF ?
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                                  • Four33
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                                    #18
                                    Should be a Quasi home game Fort Worth isnt to far from Waco. Should be able to push them around.
                                    We did lose to West Virginia as well and byu ( not good losses in hindsight but they were on the road.
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                                    • Brock Landers
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                                      • 06-30-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                      Who has better running game?
                                      you have to be drunk to ask this question LOL
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                                      • Brock Landers
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                                        • 06-30-08
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Four33
                                        Should be a Quasi home game Fort Worth isnt to far from Waco. Should be able to push them around.
                                        We did lose to West Virginia as well and byu ( not good losses in hindsight but they were on the road.
                                        no one is going to watch an exhibition bowl game in 14 degree, feels like -10 weather
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                                        • Allure
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                                          #21
                                          Franz are you German?
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                                          • MaltedHopsFrenzy
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                                            • 10-08-10
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                                            #22
                                            It’s the Lockheed-Martin Armed Forces Bowl - by rule, you gotta go Air Force, right?!?! I mean, if it was the “Tito’s Vodka Drunk Texas College Slut” Bowl - then I would take Baylor…..
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                                            • JayLA
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                                              • 09-11-12
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy
                                              It’s the Lockheed-Martin Armed Forces Bowl - by rule, you gotta go Air Force, right?!?! I mean, if it was the “Tito’s Vodka Drunk Texas College Slut” Bowl - then I would take Baylor…..
                                              No wonder the -3 point move
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                                              • franz555
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                                                • 11-13-14
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Allure
                                                Franz are you German?
                                                Born and raised in Canada Eh !

                                                My parents are German and my wife's family as well. We have 3 sons living in Germany , so we go there often.

                                                The Franz is on behalf of Franz Beckenbauer
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                                                • franz555
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                                                  • 11-13-14
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by MaltedHopsFrenzy
                                                  It’s the Lockheed-Martin Armed Forces Bowl - by rule, you gotta go Air Force, right?!?! I mean, if it was the “Tito’s Vodka Drunk Texas College Slut” Bowl - then I would take Baylor…..
                                                  Brilliant
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                                                  • JayLA
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                                                    #26
                                                    At least franz puts his neck out there
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                                                    • 209 Life
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                                                      #27
                                                      Good job AF
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JayLA
                                                        At least franz puts his neck out there
                                                        Yes he does. I like Franz. Pretty good guy. Very knowledgeable on sports.
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                                                        • JayLA
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          Yes he does. I like Franz. Pretty good guy. Very knowledgeable on sports.
                                                          He is bro. Not sure what's up with you two.
                                                          Franz is cool....
                                                          Franz made fun of me for betting de bryune would get a yellow card a couple Years ago.....bet won...he got a bit defensive about it all.
                                                          Anyways..
                                                          He constantly posts bets before the whistle, that's all I want from posters....
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                                                          • JayLA
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                                                            #30
                                                            Franz got a bit of attitude sometimes
                                                            Originally posted by franz555
                                                            BOL to you as well. Maybe De Bruyne takes his shirt off after scoring.....
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                                                            • lakerboy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JayLA
                                                              He is bro. Not sure what's up with you two.
                                                              Franz is cool....
                                                              Franz made fun of me for betting de bryune would get a yellow card a couple Years ago.....bet won...he got a bit defensive about it all.
                                                              Anyways..
                                                              He constantly posts bets before the whistle, that's all I want from posters....
                                                              I have no problem with him. He does his thing. I wished him the best in his recovery. I still feel that way.

                                                              He just doesn't like to discuss betting concepts
                                                              No biggie
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                                                              • Four33
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                                                                #32
                                                                Brock I went to watch it. It was terrible :/
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  All Air Force does is win year after year it’s amazing
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                                                                  • stevenash
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                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65526

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    All Air Force does is win year after year it’s amazing
                                                                    Service academy teams are coached very well, they are coached to play hard from opening kick to final whistle regardless of score.
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                                                                    • Allure
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      These meaningless bowls are hard to cap and watch.
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