The NFL is rigged

[trobin31]

I try to be on the right side of the rig as well

not sure how anyone with an IQ above being able to breathe can say subjective judgements made by humans and players with 100s of billions of dollars on the line each year isn’t impacted by undue influences, whether it be referees with gambling problems, players or refs need extra money in their pockets to take care of their kids and mistress, or even just league mandates to make the games more entertaining by keeping games close to increase tv revenue

I’m not saying every game is fixed but I would place odds as favorite at least 1-3% of games are unduly influenced by corruption.

[DwightShrute]

I try to be on the right side of the rig as well

not sure how anyone with an IQ above being able to breathe can say subjective judgements made by humans and players with 100s of billions of dollars on the line each year isn’t impacted by undue influences, whether it be referees with gambling problems, players or refs need extra money in their pockets to take care of their kids and mistress, or even just league mandates to make the games more entertaining by keeping games close to increase tv revenue

I’m not saying every game is fixed but I would place odds as favorite at least 1-3% of games are unduly influenced by corruption.

well said. Who knows what is in the mind of an official. Or a player for that matter. An NBA official went to prison for rigging games. Maybe a NFL ref didn't like what some players said to him about his mother once and its payback.

[mjsuax13]

I would place odds as favorite at least 1-3% of games are unduly influenced by corruption.

I totally agree with this logic. Humans are human and people are flawed. Players, referees, etc… get themselves into tough spots and they react. I don’t believe there is a meeting in some boardroom in NYC coming up with scripts and rigging scenarios though. These clowns would be shouting about. Antonio Brown???

[jackpot269]

If it's rigged you have a 50 to 50 chance of being on the right side of it that said.
There was never a rigged smu game either!
Or a Boston Collage game .
Just people making up stuff
To say that no NFL games are ever rigged would mean having a no idea about odds!
What are the odds that one has never been rigged?
Same on the other
What are the odds that most are rigged?
Just 2 simple question

[jackpot269]

I try to be on the right side of the rig as well

not sure how anyone with an IQ above being able to breathe can say subjective judgements made by humans and players with 100s of billions of dollars on the line each year isn’t impacted by undue influences, whether it be referees with gambling problems, players or refs need extra money in their pockets to take care of their kids and mistress, or even just league mandates to make the games more entertaining by keeping games close to increase tv revenue

I’m not saying every game is fixed but I would place odds as favorite at least 1-3% of games are unduly influenced by corruption.

Trobin maybe the most wise of all!

[StackinGreen]

with 100s of billions of dollars on the line each year isn’t impacted by

This is the argument against fixing. At least from a player point of view, absolutely no reason these days. A ref maybe, doubtful as they have a great gig and union. Also, coaches the closest they come is making decisions based on knowledge of the line, which happens more in college than NFL. That's just motivation and usually a version of pouring it on or winning differently/covering.

[OldBill]

every loser cries it was fixed rigged but 100'000's of others won on the other side

i went perfect yesterday on 6 games i bet Falcons +6 covered Browns the small chalk hammered the ravens 13-3 and 14 pt home pup hung with chiefs in O T Eagles caught looking ahead blew cover @ Bears 25-20 final you couldn't find a better spot to fade Eagles off div rival win with top div rival up next a perfect sandwhich

and omg cardinals still 100% perfect losers @ Broncos now 0-6 Dayummmmmmmm your defense suxxxxxxxx broncos scored 24 points

such is the curse of being the SB host city and a 2nd team featured on Hard knocks LOL

and belive it or not we have another div that the winner will have losing record 8-9 looks like it in nfc south happend long ago with new alignment only 4 teams seattle got in with 7-9 record but saints who had better record was forced to play there as a wc and was chalked by 10.5 points so because both teams lost to Tmapa Bay i took seattle and they won in shooot out like 45- 43

and wow Cincy i loved at BRady's house smoked them 27-17 hit my 3 team parlay also Texans +14.5 Browns -3 Baers +9 $20 won me huge $140 pay out

and steelers i took on the ML @ Panthers wow 24-16 lil puppy Steel +2.5 but i guees it's fixed rigged every game

argue with nephew every week he says did you see end of raiders Patriots threw ball to them and lost the game i said well they were the 3 point dog butchie and just a stupid play by a weak patriots team

and he dont bet only plays fantasy for money but him and son are winning so i say i guess it's fixed for you huh!

[StackinGreen]

well said. Who knows what is in the mind of an official. Or a player for that matter. An NBA official went to prison for rigging games. Maybe a NFL ref didn't like what some players said to him about his mother once and its payback.

Technically this is untrue. The only verified example we have of "changing the outcome of games" (not rigging) is Donaghy and he just made margins or over/unders change, usually foul shots to go over or help a cover. College bball games from the 80s were the same thing, usually point shaving though.

[TheMoneyShot]

No sense in explaining to anyone that anything can be rigged. It's not a simple human judgement call by an official. You know when you're being setup for a loss or not. To me Washington was the better team... the NFL didn't want them in the playoffs.

[StackinGreen]

No sense in explaining to anyone that anything can be rigged. It's not a simple human judgement call by an official. You know when you're being setup for a loss or not. To me Washington was the better team... the NFL didn't want them in the playoffs.

"You know" lol

[TheMoneyShot]

"You know" lol

Will an athlete ever come out and say Vegas fukked me? It might happen one day. Someone will lose their sh## emotionally. But... that's why every athlete is a millionaire. Shut your mouth and take your money. The game within the game.

[goduke]

I never said or insinuated any of what you posted.



As usual, you are making shit up.

Go back to sleep.

You literally pointed his post and unless you somehow have lost your memory you have posts about the election being stolen or have posted memes/gifs/tweets about the election being stolen. Do i really need to do the legwork to prove this or can you simply just look?

[pavyracer]

You literally pointed his post and unless you somehow have lost your memory you have posts about the election being stolen or have posted memes/gifs/tweets about the election being stolen. Do i really need to do the legwork to prove this or can you simply just look?

The election was stolen. This is what he saw in the fictional movie 2000 mules.

[Thor4140]

The election was stolen. This is what he saw in the fictional movie 2000 mules.

[JIBBBY]

The election was stolen. This is what he saw in the fictional movie 2000 mules.

Twitter social media and the elections were stolen back in 2020. Ballot harvesting with dead people and all the Mail in ballots were very suspect.

Must show ID and in person and only then will all elections become fair in all States. Oh and counting votes a month later while still waiting for results is garbage as well!

[Thor4140]

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Not sure how anyone with an IQ over 50 doesn’t realize the refs were not going to let Washington score there. the last pass was priceless. Even the crook Mcauley sitting in the booth with the announcers admitted these were terrible calls. Of course these were the same type of calls he used to make When he was on the field

[Regul8er]

I always love the “I didnt bet the game, but its rigged” opener lol

[jjgold]

Losing gamblers comical

[StackinGreen]

I always love the “I didnt bet the game, but its rigged” opener lol

Losing gamblers comical

Yup, Rambis and JJ nailin' it

[JIBBBY]

I always love the “I didnt bet the game, but its rigged” opener lol

That means they loaded up. Correct!

[mjsuax13]

That means they loaded up. Correct!

Exactly.

[DwightShrute]

You literally pointed his post and unless you somehow have lost your memory you have posts about the election being stolen or have posted memes/gifs/tweets about the election being stolen. Do i really need to do the legwork to prove this or can you simply just look?

My memory is just fine thank you very much. I don't never inject politics into the sports discussions but since you brought it up, I will make an exception.
The presidential election was rigged. Any reasonable person knows this. When the FBI warns Twitter and Fakebook that the Hunter laptop story is about to be released showing the Biden crime family's dealings with the CCP and Ukraine, and they then block anyone sharing the story, block the NY Post, collude with big tech to even prevent people from downloading the Parler app because they were willing to run the story. Ya that is definitely rigging the election. I mean, its laughable if you or anyone thinks differently.

So back to the NFL. If a group (maybe the referee's union or a sportsbook) decided to collude with Fox, CBS, ESPN or NBC to prevent them from showing a replay of a controversial call which clearly shows the receiver did catch the ball in OT but the call was incomplete, and then banned big tech (youtube, Twitter, fakebook etc) from showing the replay, then that too is rigging. Let's even go one step further. let's say the next day, 51 former former referees all signed a letter saying the receiver did NOT catch the ball, you don't need to see the replay and that is just more Russian disinformation. Yup, you guessed it. Its rigging the game.

I haven't seen any group collaborating together to rig the outcome of a NFL game. I have seen missed calls and bad calls as we all have.

Just because I don't think the NFL is rigged, doesn't mean elections weren't. Show me any evidence to change my mind about NFL rigging and I will look at it. Until then, give me a break trying to compare these two totally separate things.

[goduke]

My memory is just fine thank you very much. I don't never inject politics into the sports discussions but since you brought it up, I will make an exception.
The presidential election was rigged. Any reasonable person knows this. When the FBI warns Twitter and Fakebook that the Hunter laptop story is about to be released showing the Biden crime family's dealings with the CCP and Ukraine, and they then block anyone sharing the story, block the NY Post, collude with big tech to even prevent people from downloading the Parler app because they were willing to run the story. Ya that is definitely rigging the election. I mean, its laughable if you or anyone thinks differently.

So back to the NFL. If a group (maybe the referee's union or a sportsbook) decided to collude with Fox, CBS, ESPN or NBC to prevent them from showing a replay of a controversial call which clearly shows the receiver did catch the ball in OT but the call was incomplete, and then banned big tech (youtube, Twitter, fakebook etc) from showing the replay, then that too is rigging. Let's even go one step further. let's say the next day, 51 former former referees all signed a letter saying the receiver did NOT catch the ball, you don't need to see the replay and that is just more Russian disinformation. Yup, you guessed it. Its rigging the game.

I haven't seen any group collaborating together to rig the outcome of a NFL game. I have seen missed calls and bad calls as we all have.

Just because I don't think the NFL is rigged, doesn't mean elections weren't. Show me any evidence to change my mind about NFL rigging and I will look at it. Until then, give me a break trying to compare these two totally separate things.

Why would the nfl/sports books/owners ever collaborate with tv networks on rigging a game? That doesn’t even make sense. Tv networks are a vessel to deliver a product and a huge revenue source for the shield. How could the nfl negotiate new deals with networks if there was an understanding that games were rigged?
As for referees, Tim Donaghy is an example to all referees not to step out of line, good luck ever getting one of them to say a word.
If you are looking at those two places for a reason for certain games/outcomes/scenarios to be manufactured/rigged/whatever then you’ll be looking for the rest of your life.
If I knew the answer to if some games are rigged or not do you think I would start my posting it on SBR? Of course not. But I’ll tell you this, never in American history have this many billionaires worked together in some way to make large amounts of money and there wasn’t a level of corruption. Everytime there is a lot of money to be made anywhere there is some level of seedy shit.
Coaches aren’t as stupid as they want everyone to believe, refs aren’t as dumb as everyone thinks and some of the games have scenarios that aren’t as clean as one thinks. If I had all the answers I would be a billionaire. I merely look at games, compare them to other games, look for weird decisions and try to see if they relate to some outcomes. Sometimes they do and it makes me think.
My point to responding to you and Jibby was this….you guys believe everything in our government is rigged until it’s your politic side that is in charge but just like republicans, since you like the NFL you put blinders on.

[mtofell]

If it's so blatantly rigged why not bet on the winning side?

[Optional]

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Means very little I think.

Same as people who call bookmaker's CS and ask them to confirm stuff that is the players own responsibility to know. And if they can trick CS into agreeing to the players wrong request, the person goes ballistic that it is the CS persons fault.

Player knew he was not at the line.

[ArunSh]

What's interesting to me about all this rigged speculation is: why does it matter if it is (no I don't think it is)? Unless you are betting millions or close (which I highly doubt), there are plenty of small bettors who are taking each side in a game. So if it was hypothetically rigged, a bunch of them would be on the winning side, a bunch on the losing side, basically should be 50/50 in long-term.

So even if it was rigged, it wouldn't change whether any small gambler wins or loses long-term lol. Realistically it wouldn't even matter so what's point of complaining about a hypothetical rig that probably doesn't exist and should have no bearing on your win rate even if it did!

[bigtymer56]

Means very little I think.

Same as people who call bookmaker's CS and ask them to confirm stuff that is the players own responsibility to know. And if they can trick CS into agreeing to the players wrong request, the person goes ballistic that it is the CS persons fault.

Player knew he was not at the line.

Opti, players are pretty much taught from the second they start playing the game to check with the official on how they're lined up if they have any doubt. Don't think I've ever seen that before. My only explanation is that the ref the zoned out and wasnt paying attention to him when he checked.

[klemopixx]

Just like every election you don't win is rigged!

[DwightShrute]

Why would the nfl/sports books/owners ever collaborate with tv networks on rigging a game? That doesn’t even make sense. .

exactly. It isn't suppose to make sense because it was a reply to your previos post which make absolutely zero sense. You stated that I said everything non sports related is some sort of liberal conspiracy. You also said that I have said that 2 million different people came together to make sure the election was stolen. Which isn't anything I have even thought to myself let alone share on this forum. The to end it off, you said this was hypocrisy. It certainly is not. Not even close.

[DwightShrute]

Just like every election you don't win is rigged!

no one thinks that.

[KVB]

Means very little I think.

Same as people who call bookmaker's CS and ask them to confirm stuff that is the players own responsibility to know. And if they can trick CS into agreeing to the players wrong request, the person goes ballistic that it is the CS persons fault.

Player knew he was not at the line.

I disagree here.

It actually means a lot. At all levels of play, from Jr, High School on up, the wide receivers communicate constantly with the officials on the sideline. Usually it's to tell the official his intention of being on the line of scrimmage or just off of it and to confirm with the official that he is in the right spot.

This is a regular occurrence.

In this case, the wr tells the ref he wants to be on the line of scrimmage and asks if he's good. The ref motions to move forward but, in my opinion, the receiver barely moves forward.

At this point the player insists he checked with the ref again and the ref said he was good. In the video we see the player look at the ref after he moves forward and the ref puts his arm down.

The player's responsibility ends after he confirms with the ref, I can not find this written rule, but I believe it exists. If it's true what the player says, and that the ref confirmed he was good, then it is not the player's fault.

The players (wide receivers) do not necessarily know if the are on the line or over it, that's why wr's and ref communication like this occurs on almost every play where the receiver heads to the sideline.

But if the ref didn't confirm the wr was good, like the wr says, then maybe the ref was pissed because the player asked, the ref told him to move forward, and the wr barely adjusted his feet. Maybe the ref took it personally.

But if the ref told him he was good, then threw the flag, it may become the player's word against the ref.

If this quote is true, then it is not on the player. The ref isn't some low level customer service rep caught in a mistaken quote, the ref is the decision maker...

[goduke]

exactly. It isn't suppose to make sense because it was a reply to your previos post which make absolutely zero sense. You stated that I said everything non sports related is some sort of liberal conspiracy. You also said that I have said that 2 million different people came together to make sure the election was stolen. Which isn't anything I have even thought to myself let alone share on this forum. The to end it off, you said this was hypocrisy. It certainly is not. Not even close.

You have stated many things to be liberal conspiracies so that is true. I was talking in a broad sense.
Obviously 2 million is an exaggerated number I thought you would have understood that but anyone who thinks the election was rigged would have to believe that many states, many counters on both parties and many other representatives would all have to work together and also not say anything all for the purpose of electing someone that may or may not benefit them monetarily. And then not say anything about it. It’s far fetched.
It’s fine we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this. You will forget all your posts and then not comment that there could be something corrupt about the nfl. Don’t worry about responding we are going nowhere with this

[Optional]

Opti, players are pretty much taught from the second they start playing the game to check with the official on how they're lined up if they have any doubt. Don't think I've ever seen that before. My only explanation is that the ref the zoned out and wasnt paying attention to him when he checked.

I disagree here.

It actually means a lot. At all levels of play, from Jr, High School on up, the wide receivers communicate constantly with the officials on the sideline.

Thanks. I stand corrected.

[Nate rasta]

I do believe the nfl influences games through the reffs for marketing purposes,ratings and promoting certain star players. Doesn't happen every game but certain situations it's clear

[KVB]

Yeah, those last two plays of that game not exactly the best day for the refs. I wonder if the crew gets taken off of night games or bumped from a playoff assignment.

Haven't seen anything from the refs or NFL on this, and maybe we won't.