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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Traditional betting is difficult these days
    Way too many options with these USA books. They find the degenerate in you. You can bet on who will fall down first. You need extreme discipline.
  • d2bets
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    • 08-10-05
    • 39995

    #2
    lol too many options.
    All the options create opportunities for the mathematically discerning.
    They have to post an almost unlimited menu. Bettors can just cherry-pick the "mistakes". It's great.
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    • stevenash
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      • 01-17-11
      • 65499

      #3
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Way too many options with these USA books. They find the degenerate in you. You can bet on who will fall down first. You need extreme discipline.
      Prop bets is the way to go.
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      • d2bets
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        • 08-10-05
        • 39995

        #4
        Originally posted by stevenash
        Prop bets is the way to go.
        Prop bets can be profitable.
        Just that most people don't know how and do it all wrong.
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #5
          Originally posted by d2bets
          lol too many options.
          All the options create opportunities for the mathematically discerning.
          They have to post an almost unlimited menu. Bettors can just cherry-pick the "mistakes". It's great.
          Sure..

          It also creates so many more degenerates. I'm trying to be a democratic here and care for the people.
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          • gauchojake
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            • 09-17-10
            • 34109

            #6
            laker is the real players advocate
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              Originally posted by gauchojake
              laker is the real players advocate
              I'm trying but smart asses abound
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              • gauchojake
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                • 09-17-10
                • 34109

                #8
                I only ever bet on the apps in Vegas which are pretty vanilla in my opinion. I see the commercials though. They are just picking on square public bettors goading them into -ev parlays and live bets
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                • lakerboy
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94379

                  #9
                  In sick of all the commercials
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                  • stevex
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-02-10
                    • 5122

                    #10
                    When you bet the Browns and claim they’re “on a roll” after beating the Texans gambling is probably tough for you at the moment bud. You’ll get there.
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                    • Shutup
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-15-17
                      • 2435

                      #11
                      Discipline is easy
                      It all depends on bankroll
                      If you got a good one it isn't that hard
                      If not it is a pain
                      Betting is not fun if you have to grind small amounts to build a bankroll
                      No one wants to take months to turn a few hundred into thousands and always chase to not have the small bankroll disappear
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                      • TommieGunshot
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 1604

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        Way too many options with these USA books. They find the degenerate in you. You can bet on who will fall down first. You need extreme discipline.
                        If the current options are too difficult, hopefully they will add some more so that you can find one that is a little bit easier.
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                        • pologq
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-07-12
                          • 19899

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shutup
                          Discipline is easy
                          It all depends on bankroll
                          If you got a good one it isn't that hard
                          If not it is a pain
                          Betting is not fun if you have to grind small amounts to build a bankroll
                          No one wants to take months to turn a few hundred into thousands and always chase to not have the small bankroll disappear
                          good post
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            And every book has Quick hooks regardless, of who you are
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65499

                              #15
                              If you're a bulk bettor and must have action on anything that is on TV I guarantee you're a loser.

                              The successful sports bettors are spot bettors.

                              Do your homework, seek out value, pick your spots.

                              If you don't enjoy analytics, if you don't enjoy math, if you don't enjoy sports, and you want to be successful this isn't for you.
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83686

                                #16
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                Prop bets is the way to go.
                                Stevie has a clue!

                                Love the player and fighter props. Gotta cap and find the trend and angles though.
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                                • d2bets
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                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 39995

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                  If you're a bulk bettor and must have action on anything that is on TV I guarantee you're a loser.

                                  The successful sports bettors are spot bettors.


                                  Do your homework, seek out value, pick your spots.

                                  If you don't enjoy analytics, if you don't enjoy math, if you don't enjoy sports, and you want to be successful this isn't for you.
                                  Yes and no.

                                  Of course needing TV is action is bad. But so is "spot betting". Pros have volume. You need lots and lots of bets to realize your edge. Pros rack up many thousands of wagers per year. Not just a few spots a week or something like that.
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83686

                                    #18
                                    I like Alternate line betting also. Certainly have to pick your spots though. It usually works out for me.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65499

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Stevie has a clue!

                                      Love the player and fighter props. Gotta cap and find the trend and angles though.
                                      And get the right numbers too.
                                      Books have 80 college games to worry about on any Saturday in October, the books on occasions hang soft numbers, not often, but they do on occasion, and that's what you need to seek out.

                                      I'll say it again, do your homework, do the research, put in the work, you can exploit the soft spots, only if you put in the work.

                                      KNOWLEDGE IS KING
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        No Laker, all your reasons are actually better for the betting landscape and increase our opportunities.

                                        Your issue here is with responsible gaming, and all it takes is one single betting option in front of the wrong guy for that to go haywire.

                                        There’s just no room for degeneracy when betting meaningfully. It’s not acceptable and should be saved for bet points at best.

                                        There really isn’t room for degeneracy when betting recreationally either, but it’s a fact that some people simply shouldn’t bet.

                                        That fact is not the fault of the options on the table, it only takes one option, it’s more the fault of human behavior.

                                        It’s a behavior that the oddsmaker, bookmaker, and knowledgeable bettors will exploit.


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                                        • franz555
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-13-14
                                          • 10711

                                          #21
                                          Good thread. A lot of wise advice
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            exchanges now booting NJ players you cannot make this up
                                            Go on twtiter and read up sportstrade
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                              No Laker, all your reasons are actually better for the betting landscape and increase our opportunities.

                                              Your issue here is with responsible gaming, and all it takes is one single betting option in front of the wrong guy for that to go haywire.

                                              There’s just no room for degeneracy when betting meaningfully. It’s not acceptable and should be saved for bet points at best.

                                              There really isn’t room for degeneracy when betting recreationally either, but it’s a fact that some people simply shouldn’t bet.

                                              That fact is not the fault of the options on the table, it only takes one option, it’s more the fault of human behavior.

                                              It’s a behavior that the oddsmaker, bookmaker, and knowledgeable bettors will exploit.


                                              You are right. My issue is with responsibility. I'm not necessarily talking about myself only.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                USA books set up for most players to lose everything in their banks
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                                                • lakerboy
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                  • 94379

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  USA books set up for most players to lose everything in their banks
                                                  Maybe but at the same time you can win big on options that aren't available offshore.
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                                                  • OldBill
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-02-21
                                                    • 6416

                                                    #26
                                                    no matter what if you do not learn from loses your a guarnteed loser for life like im saying no way dolphins win this game after getting thumped @ 49ers like a subbe bottom door matt by a rookie in his 1st game

                                                    poof -3.5 - 4 s/u loser wire to wire 17-23 and im sitting there looking at MY Chargers ML come through +140 now miami 3rd str8 road is in Buffalo now what they fly directly to Buffalo or go home?

                                                    mortgage the house Bills win probly -3
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Good point

                                                      Have both

                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                      Maybe but at the same time you can win big on options that aren't available offshore.
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
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                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        Yes and no.

                                                        Of course needing TV is action is bad. But so is "spot betting". Pros have volume. You need lots and lots of bets to realize your edge. Pros rack up many thousands of wagers per year. Not just a few spots a week or something like that.
                                                        yeah but there are different levels of pro

                                                        can be a pro making 1 or 2 good prop bets or scalps/day and taking bonuses... might "only" make 10k/year but i would still call that a professional, since they're still in it to make a profit

                                                        i know a lot of people have different definitions of professional gambler, mine is one that is almost certain to be ahead every year
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                                                        • pavyracer
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 04-12-07
                                                          • 82775

                                                          #29
                                                          You have to learn how to exploit weakness. More options means it is easier now to find weak lines.
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                                                          • lakerboy
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 04-02-09
                                                            • 94379

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                            yeah but there are different levels of pro

                                                            can be a pro making 1 or 2 good prop bets or scalps/day and taking bonuses... might "only" make 10k/year but i would still call that a professional, since they're still in it to make a profit

                                                            i know a lot of people have different definitions of professional gambler, mine is one that is almost certain to be ahead every year
                                                            10k a year is a pro to you?

                                                            Interesting.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Scalps lol that is not a pro by any definition
                                                              9th grade math


                                                              Those days long gone

                                                              Banned instantly
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                                                              • Goat Milk
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 03-24-10
                                                                • 25850

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                Prop bets can be profitable.
                                                                Just that most people don't know how and do it all wrong.
                                                                Been touting prop bets since I came here in 2010. Remember when ppl used to make fun of me for it? Now everyone on this board doing it.

                                                                Ppl want to try and hit lotto tickets, the days of straight -110 bets are finished. Those aren't worth the time anyway unless you're betting 1k per game at least. If you bet 100 dollars per play, and are up 30 units at the end of the year, that 3 grand is nothing, compared to the time you invested.
                                                                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                • goduke
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-17-10
                                                                  • 11580

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  10k a year is a pro to you?

                                                                  Interesting.
                                                                  Mike thinks he led the Underground Railroad during covid and should have history books written about him. Not sure his opinion is what I would be taking
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                                    • 25850

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                    yeah but there are different levels of pro

                                                                    can be a pro making 1 or 2 good prop bets or scalps/day and taking bonuses... might "only" make 10k/year but i would still call that a professional, since they're still in it to make a profit

                                                                    i know a lot of people have different definitions of professional gambler, mine is one that is almost certain to be ahead every year
                                                                    No chance. Last 15 years, I would say I'm up on the year 12 of the last 15 years across all sports. There are years where I made 5 grand and I considered it a waste of time. My best year was up 60 grand, that's only because I hit a couple crazy futures and parlays that year. My bet unit is small though compared to most people. I'm not betting 1000 on every game, which is what you need to do if you want to make a real living doing this, supporting a family, etc. What is 10 grand in today's world? Literally pays for your car and insurance, that's it lol.
                                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 103157

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      Way too many options with these USA books. They find the degenerate in you. You can bet on who will fall down first. You need extreme discipline.
                                                                      some free advice Laker. Don't go to pornhub .com
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