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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #1
    The reality of US based sports books
    Rule #1
    Offshore is and always will be King
  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #2
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Let me read it
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        The OP doesn't have $600 to his name

        He got the boot at a couple forums this week
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 51999

          #5
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45359

            #6
            Originally posted by Fishhead
            The OP doesn't have $600 to his name

            He got the boot at a couple forums this week
            Losers only wanted at US books.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Originally posted by Brock Landers
              Losers only wanted at US books.
              Fair statement outside of Nevada
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              • Darkside Magick
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-28-10
                • 12638

                #8
                Circa and Pinnacle...im good!!!
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                  Circa and Pinnacle...im good!!!
                  Many more good shops........offshore and in Nevada
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                  • downsouth
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-13-11
                    • 11580

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    Losers only wanted at US books.
                    Should love you then. The rolling "if" bet.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      NJ /Colorado exchanges ok

                      They do not boot
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                      • Brock Landers
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 06-30-08
                        • 45359

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        NJ /Colorado exchanges ok

                        They do not boot
                        Not about booting, limiting is the issue
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                        • OldBill
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-02-21
                          • 6416

                          #13
                          you only get booted or banned when confirmed mob ties or using accounts to make others win and other ??? activities

                          I spoke with one guy live on a phone they lived in NYC and both were hard hitters shraps

                          all of a sudden limited to max $300 one brther moved to vegas then he said next month he joining him

                          i said contact me after you get there and place your bets again bang boom pow they were betting live in all brick n moratr books and winning but not like others who drop 30 K or 10 k per game they only bet like 1 - 2 thou per game

                          the ones you read or heard about in vegas that got banned were proven using mob ties or others were banned placing wagers for them

                          hasnt happened here in USA brick n mortar books but i know it will BUT the ones that got booted already all new books have been alreted
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                          • OldBill
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-02-21
                            • 6416

                            #14
                            yes Brock it's limiting is the issue even locals years ago did it when we was cracking one for $1000's a week 5 weeks in row boom limited to $300 and thats all we had one local to use ...

                            now i have 3 sports books to use 2 within 8 blocks of my door only prob with one is they close after 11 pm they are also OTB for horses

                            then another rivers casino about 3 miles away so i can use all 3 spread out $1000 never get limited

                            and all 3 use fan duel so my lines are the same
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OldBill
                              yes Brock it's limiting is the issue even locals years ago did it when we was cracking one for $1000's a week 5 weeks in row boom limited to $300 and thats all we had one local to use ...

                              now i have 3 sports books to use 2 within 8 blocks of my door only prob with one is they close after 11 pm they are also OTB for horses

                              then another rivers casino about 3 miles away so i can use all 3 spread out $1000 never get limited

                              and all 3 use fan duel so my lines are the same
                              Good feedback Billy, keep it up!
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                              • High3rEl3m3nt
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-28-10
                                • 8022

                                #16
                                Brock, what’s your top three outs?
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #17
                                  There are things you CAN'T do at offshore that you can onshore in terms of types of wagers.
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                                  • Brock Landers
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 06-30-08
                                    • 45359

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by High3rEl3m3nt
                                    Brock, what’s your top three outs?
                                    BETONLINE
                                    Draft kings (cash)
                                    Bet rivers (cash)

                                    Never use in state apps
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61496

                                      #19
                                      I don't think anyone, including the OP, actually read this whole article.

                                      Otherwise, someone would have mentioned this part already;


                                      A longtime bettor who goes by Brock Landers on Twitter said in an interview that when more than a dozen regulated sportsbooks opened in New Jersey, he was excited to be done with the stressful and, at times, unsafe process of betting illegally.
                                      .
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                                      • Brock Landers
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 45359

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                        I don't think anyone, including the OP, actually read this whole article.

                                        Otherwise, someone would have mentioned this part already;


                                        A longtime bettor who goes by Brock Landers on Twitter said in an interview that when more than a dozen regulated sportsbooks opened in New Jersey, he was excited to be done with the stressful and, at times, unsafe process of betting illegally.
                                        Uh, yeah pal. It's not THIS Brock Landers
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                                        • Brock Landers
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 45359

                                          #21
                                          Lots of stories of books limiting players
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                                          • Enkhbat
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-18-11
                                            • 3145

                                            #22
                                            What happened Brock? Did Illinois books limit you?
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              The bottom line is no matter what book you play at you’re going to lose
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                                              • Brock Landers
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 06-30-08
                                                • 45359

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Enkhbat
                                                What happened Brock? Did Illinois books limit you?
                                                No, I don't play at that much, but stories are all over about it
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                                                • Waterstpub87
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-09-09
                                                  • 4102

                                                  #25
                                                  Either place is borrowed time.

                                                  Offshore, because it won't exist for Americans. Argue all you want. Bitcoin will get regulated. More aggressive actions will be taken on the offshore books.

                                                  On top of that, at least for me was pretty grim at the end. Betonline left, 5dimes left, bookmaker with all its problem, heritage with $100 limits, betphoneix group.

                                                  Onshore, because you'll be limited. Eventually, I'll be down to a few outs, lost 4 thus far this year. Hopefully Circa gets here. I don't even chase steam. The exchange is a little weak as far as liquidity. I hope it gets better.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                                                    Either place is borrowed time.

                                                    Offshore, because it won't exist for Americans. Argue all you want. Bitcoin will get regulated. More aggressive actions will be taken on the offshore books.

                                                    On top of that, at least for me was pretty grim at the end. Betonline left, 5dimes left, bookmaker with all its problem, heritage with $100 limits, betphoneix group.

                                                    Onshore, because you'll be limited. Eventually, I'll be down to a few outs, lost 4 thus far this year. Hopefully Circa gets here. I don't even chase steam. The exchange is a little weak as far as liquidity. I hope it gets better.
                                                    Basically sums it up, strong regs coming to coins USA wise
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                                                    • psufan
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-05-11
                                                      • 755

                                                      #27
                                                      All the apps, FanDuel, DraftKings, MGM, Caesars limit players too often and too quickly. It kinda loses their credibility. They only let Mattress Mack make that 10 mil bet because he has a history of being down overall. He just subsidizes his furniture business with his bets. Mad smart.
                                                      Betonline is king
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by psufan
                                                        All the apps, FanDuel, DraftKings, MGM, Caesars limit players too often and too quickly. It kinda loses their credibility. They only let Mattress Mack make that 10 mil bet because he has a history of being down overall. He just subsidizes his furniture business with his bets. Mad smart.
                                                        Betonline is king
                                                        yep
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83686

                                                          #29
                                                          Only offshore for me. Exchange currency with bitcoin for deposits and payouts in quick time is the way to go. Easy, reliable and fast. No hang ups.

                                                          I've been on these books below for years. They all pay out! No complaints.

                                                          Now why would I change a good thing and go US books?

                                                          Bovada
                                                          Mybookie
                                                          Betus
                                                          Herritage
                                                          BetDSI
                                                          Bookmaker
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                                                          • Shutup
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-15-17
                                                            • 2435

                                                            #30
                                                            BetDSI and Mybookie have many, many non-payment compliants
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Shutup
                                                              BetDSI and Mybookie have many, many non-payment compliants
                                                              Not with me.. Been with both for years. Always paid out and fast via crypto.

                                                              Unless things have changed of recent I can't bash either. BetDSI I won 6 grand off their bonus play and they even paid out on that earlier this year.
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 61496

                                                                #32
                                                                It's not like you have any other option Jibbby.

                                                                I am sure you will change your tune as soon as Cali has legals.
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                                                                • Brock Landers
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 45359

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                                                  It's not like you have any other option Jibbby.

                                                                  I am sure you will change your tune as soon as Cali has legals.
                                                                  Why?

                                                                  Illinois has legal wagering for 2.5 years now, they don't touch offshore
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    It's not like you have any other option Jibbby.

                                                                    I am sure you will change your tune as soon as Cali has legals.
                                                                    Why change it if it isn't broken?

                                                                    I know this forum promotes US books but I just gotta keep it real and not on board with that yet. Don't care for Draftkings and that crap. Tried it.

                                                                    I'm all for supporting USA companies and books otherwise.
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                                                                    • d2bets
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                                      • 39995

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                      Why?

                                                                      Illinois has legal wagering for 2.5 years now, they don't touch offshore
                                                                      This take is as sharp as your Justin Fields take.
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