Can't Touch Brady

JAKEPEAVY21 · 10-10-22, 09:21 AM

Yep beyond awful

alta · 10-10-22, 02:01 PM

Referee Boger is a repeat offender calling these unwarranted roughing the passer calls.
These calls usually turn a 3rd and long or punt situation into a 1st down for the poor QB who was sacked.
Completely changes the complexion of the game. One of several reasons why watching NFL has fallen into last place among the BIG 6 sports for watching for me. In lieu of watching the MNF game IND/DEN, it was far far more entertaining to watch NBA preseason game Bulls/Pelicans.

bonzaii · 10-10-22, 02:05 PM

Bad call but if you see the video that shows it all he got flagged for pushing him down after making the tackle.

jtoler · 10-10-22, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Ever notice how Brady takes exception to being hit? Like he always throws his legs up and tries to kick a player.... like "GET OFF ME". Like dude... stop being a pu$$y.

It was a 100% clean play. Boger hasn't been consistent at all. Never liked him as an official.

yes Ive noticed. he seems to always be upset when sacked even when its just a regular tackle and not a hard hit, this call was petty but nothing surprises me when it comes to this league

d2bets · 10-10-22, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by bonzaii

Bad call but if you see the video that shows it all he got flagged for pushing him down after making the tackle.

Please tell me you're not defending the call. Momentum had them rolling. He did nothing even remotely unnecessary or rough. If anything, he tried to be gentle.

d2bets · 10-10-22, 02:34 PM

I think they need to make it where you can challenge these calls if you want. Just like with targeting gets reviewed. Let the coach choose whether to challenge an egregiously bad call.

Auto Donk · 10-10-22, 02:41 PM

CANT TOUCH WHAT?

KVB · 10-10-22, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by bonzaii

Bad call but if you see the video that shows it all he got flagged for pushing him down after making the tackle.

No, this is not true.

Here is what the ref says about it...

"What I had was the defender grabbed the quarterback while he was still in the pocket and unnecessarily throwing him to the ground," Boger said in a postgame pool report. "That is what I was making my decision based on."

Referee: DE's throw of Brady led to late penalty

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34763681/falcons-lineman-unnecessarily-threw-tom-brady-ground-ref-says

Referee Jerome Boger said Falcons defensive lineman Grady Jarrett "unnecessarily" threw Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady to the ground, resulting in the roughing the passer call on a key third down late in Tampa Bay's win.

First :15 seconds or so of this video shows it all, he doesn't even push on Brady to stand himself up...

Goat Milk · 10-10-22, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

I think they need to make it where you can challenge these calls if you want. Just like with targeting gets reviewed. Let the coach choose whether to challenge an egregiously bad call.

So slow the game down even more than it already is?

That's not the solution.

It was a bad call, everyone knows it was a bad call. It was a reg season meaningless game, atl is crying but they aren't going to do anything this year, they're going to be the second worst team in that division when it's all said and done. No one will care about this play 1 month from now.

alta · 10-10-22, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

So slow the game down even more than it already is?

That's not the solution.

It was a bad call, everyone knows it was a bad call. It was a reg season meaningless game, atl is crying but they aren't going to do anything this year, they're going to be the second worst team in that division when it's all said and done. No one will care about this play 1 month from now.

Everyone knows it was a bad call except the guy who threw the flag, Referee Jerome Boger, who defiantly defends his completely bogus call, which he continues to call/flag every week of NFL. Ref Boger is a "doofus"

Goat Milk · 10-10-22, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by alta

Everyone knows it was a bad call except the guy who threw the flag, Referee Jerome Boger, who defiantly defends his completely bogus call, which he continues to call/flag every week of NFL. Ref Boger is a "doofus"

Why does it even matter? ATL covered the spread. If they get that sack, tampa punts and mariotta has to drive down the field to win, which he already showed throughout the game he couldn't do consistently, and he definitely wasnt gonna do it at that moment in the game, from his own 5 yard line or whatever. Gamblers are acting like without that penalty, atl was going to win the game. There was probably a 5% chance of that happening.

teecee · 10-10-22, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by blankoblanco

Inexcusable call. Wtf are you even supposed to do as a defender, try to gently guide the QB to the ground?? These are athletes and big dudes, even a 45 year old Brady is capable of breaking a tackle if you're not allowed to put any force behind it. Ridiculous

Actually, that is exactly what it looked like the defender was doing. He guided him safely to the ground.

Mac4Lyfe · 10-10-22, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by bonzaii

Bad call but if you see the video that shows it all he got flagged for pushing him down after making the tackle.

WTF were you watching?? Or better yet, what the fukk are you smoking? Brady tried to kick Jarrett in the nuts because he was pissed at getting sacked. He did not push Brady down. You are making up shit.

How are defenders supposed to tackle the QB? They can't hit high, can't even reached above the shoulders but they also can't tackle low. So how the fukkk are you supposed to bring a guy down? You hold him by his waist and tackle him, just like Jarrett did but he still got penalized. I guess now they should just blow on them but they'd still get penalized when Brady falls down from being blown.

ChuckyTheGoat · 10-10-22, 04:55 PM

What a joke. It's one thing to make the call.

Why is the NFL backing the official via Jarrett throwing QB to the ground? NFL is now officially a joke-league.

bonzaii · 10-10-22, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by KVB

No, this is not true.

Here is what the ref says about it...

Referee: DE's throw of Brady led to late penalty

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34763681/falcons-lineman-unnecessarily-threw-tom-brady-ground-ref-says

Referee Jerome Boger said Falcons defensive lineman Grady Jarrett "unnecessarily" threw Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady to the ground, resulting in the roughing the passer call on a key third down late in Tampa Bay's win.

First :15 seconds or so of this video shows it all, he doesn't even push on Brady to stand himself up...

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

WTF were you watching?? Or better yet, what the fukk are you smoking? Brady tried to kick Jarrett in the nuts because he was pissed at getting sacked. He did not push Brady down. You are making up shit.

How are defenders supposed to tackle the QB? They can't hit high, can't even reached above the shoulders but they also can't tackle low. So how the fukkk are you supposed to bring a guy down? You hold him by his waist and tackle him, just like Jarrett did but he still got penalized. I guess now they should just blow on them but they'd still get penalized when Brady falls down from being blown.

I actually truly believed at the time that he pushed Brady down. I must have been seeing things after re looking at it. It was a horrible call.

blankoblanco · 10-10-22, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by teecee

Actually, that is exactly what it looked like the defender was doing. He guided him safely to the ground.

That's true - it wasn't rough in the slightest. All I would say is he just had a bit of momentum to finish off the tackle to the ground, because a) that's how physics works, and b) that's the only way to ensure a sack in pro football vs guys who are all at least 6'3 220

But you're right, it was relatively about as safe as you can get, and that just shows how absolutely terrible of a call it was. The fact that the ref is still defending the call is a joke. At least own up to the "mistake" and move on

EddieMusher · 10-12-22, 03:18 AM

Refs really earned their paychecks this game

Easy-Rider 66 · 10-12-22, 03:23 AM

Bad call

TheMoneyShot · 10-12-22, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

What a joke. It's one thing to make the call.

Why is the NFL backing the official via Jarrett throwing QB to the ground? NFL is now officially a joke-league.

Publicly they may be backing the call.... because it's Queen Brady... and they don't want any heat from the public. But... the main people behind the scenes know it was a BS call.

I don't really know how you solve the problem??? Have the refs all on a zoom call and reemphasize what is allowed... and what isn't allowed? I really don't want anymore REVIEWS.... there's no way the NFL would allow more reviews. They are just going to hope it goes away.

I'm a big fan of what Bill Parcells said years ago about instant replay... if you want replay... then review every call during the game... every play. Well we know you can't do that. And he said... well if you can't do that... I don't want it.

I think the games are too long as it is... there's nothing more you can do. Refs need to wake up.

Mac4Lyfe · 10-12-22, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

I don't really know how you solve the problem??? Have the refs all on a zoom call and reemphasize what is allowed... and what isn't allowed? I really don't want anymore REVIEWS.... there's no way the NFL would allow more reviews. They are just going to hope it goes away.
I'm a big fan of what Bill Parcells said years ago about instant replay... if you want replay... then review every call during the game... every play. Well we know you can't do that. And he said... well if you can't do that... I don't want it.
I think the games are too long as it is... there's nothing more you can do. Refs need to wake up.

The solution is to review these calls and also the horrible PI calls that both extend drives. The game is too fast for the refs. It's too fast for the human eye. We all see one thing but can miss what really happened. Replay is there to get it right. I understand you don't want the game to last 4 hours but you also don't want to rob a team with horseshit calls. So you have to give coaches a handful of challenges. They really should be able to challenge any call, especially a penalty. You lose your challenge, you can't challenge again. That stops the BS. And the review shouldn't take more than a few seconds.

If you really reviewed the play, Jarrett stripped the ball from Brady. He was then a runner and Brady was no longer a QB, so he couldn't have roughed the passer when he had the damn ball. Refs need to get their shit together and make the right call and reverse it via replay if they fukk up.

TheMoneyShot · 10-12-22, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

The solution is to review these calls and also the horrible PI calls that both extend drives. The game is too fast for the refs. It's too fast for the human eye. We all see one thing but can miss what really happened. Replay is there to get it right. I understand you don't want the game to last 4 hours but you also don't want to rob a team with horseshit calls. So you have to give coaches a handful of challenges. They really should be able to challenge any call, especially a penalty. You lose your challenge, you can't challenge again. That stops the BS. And the review shouldn't take more than a few seconds.

If you really reviewed the play, Jarrett stripped the ball from Brady. He was then a runner and Brady was no longer a QB, so he couldn't have roughed the passer when he had the damn ball. Refs need to get their shit together and make the right call and reverse it via replay if they fukk up.

Right now... it's perfect with how the reviews are setup. We don't need anymore. I thought it was kind of stupid to automatically review all scoring plays and turnovers. If a coach wants to challenge a scoring play... or turnover.... then allow him to. That takes a lot of time too. Boger just needs to read his ref manual again... and stop screwing up the game.

alta · 10-12-22, 05:49 PM

NFL giving us a teaser taste of the future of the NFL with a Flag Pro Bowl.
Would not be surprised if NFL has already applied for trademarking the NFFL.

TheMoneyShot · 10-14-22, 09:05 AM

Brady: Could Be Fined For Kicking

Let's hope they punish him for something. I'm tired of this guy thinking he's untouchable. Hit that fragile bit##

Mac4Lyfe · 10-14-22, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Right now... it's perfect with how the reviews are setup. We don't need anymore. I thought it was kind of stupid to automatically review all scoring plays and turnovers. If a coach wants to challenge a scoring play... or turnover.... then allow him to. That takes a lot of time too. Boger just needs to read his ref manual again... and stop screwing up the game.

No it's not perfect. The game is too fast for most refs. They are going to make mistakes. You need replay to correct mistakes. It does not have to take a long time to review a play. especially a subjective call like roughing the passer or pass interference. It was pretty clear that it was a bad call but once the refs called it, they had no mechanism to overturn a bad call. instead of owning up to it, they justified it. No need for all that. Have Secaucus quickly review and buzz in and correct these errors that could cost a team a Super Bowl.

Mac4Lyfe · 10-14-22, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Brady: Could Be Fined For Kicking
Let's hope they punish him for something. I'm tired of this guy thinking he's untouchable. Hit that fragile bit##

This is not the first time that Brady tried to kick, push, shove a guy who sacked him. He really doesn't give a shit because he's gotten away with so much in his career.

TheMoneyShot · 10-14-22, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

No it's not perfect. The game is too fast for most refs. They are going to make mistakes. You need replay to correct mistakes. It does not have to take a long time to review a play. especially a subjective call like roughing the passer or pass interference. It was pretty clear that it was a bad call but once the refs called it, they had no mechanism to overturn a bad call. instead of owning up to it, they justified it. No need for all that. Have Secaucus quickly review and buzz in and correct these errors that could cost a team a Super Bowl.

Well Mac... they keep missing balls and strikes in baseball. Refs/umpires are bound to miss calls. I think reviewing penalties is dumb... if it really meant anything to the NFL... they would of started reviewing penalties after that outrageous pass interference NON-CALL on a New Orleans WR a few years back.