Why are there no A ratings from SBR on these sports books?

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  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #1
    Why are there no A ratings from SBR on these sports books?
    I don't see one. I don't play at any of them, but is it that bad out there? I use to see multiple A ratings.
  • KiDBaZkiT
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-20-09
    • 14962

    #2
    Dude SBR stopped giving a shit a while ago.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Basically all A's and B+ except for juice then all B or C's

      Very little difference between almost all legal books
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      • Juan Valdez
        SBR Rookie
        • 11-10-21
        • 12

        #4
        Originally posted by RangeFinder
        I don't see one. I don't play at any of them, but is it that bad out there? I use to see multiple A ratings.
        There are some A- ratings if you look on the Betting Sites page https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-sites/

        The grades posted at the top of the forum are outdated but will get updated soon. The forum grades aren't connected to the rest of the site and must be manually changed.

        You used to see a lot more A-rated books because the previous owner would accept money for higher grades and the ratings stopped being authentic. Really common amongst all product review sites, tbh.

        The new direction of SBR is meant to change that and bring honesty and integrity back into ratings and they are not for sale. A new rating system is being developed that weighs standard features found at betting sites against the market and rates them based on how they compare against industry leaders. The current letter grades for the US, at least, are a loose reflection of that.

        But, JJ is also correct that depending on your region, many of the regulated books are very similar, and the difference between a book rating B vs. B- or even C+ in the US could be slim sometimes.

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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Outside of Nevada in the United States there are no A books except CIRCA
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          • pologq
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-07-12
            • 19899

            #6
            these books leave a lot to be desired. i am glad they are not given the A's like before.
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            • KiDBaZkiT
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-20-09
              • 14962

              #7
              Originally posted by pologq
              these books leave a lot to be desired. i am glad they are not given the A's like before.
              Lol you mean like intertops? Or I guess they are now called “everygame.eu”?? SBR had them as an A rating forever and they were atrocious. They didn’t even have live betting, payouts took a minimum of 4 business days.
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              • pologq
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-07-12
                • 19899

                #8
                Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                Lol you mean like intertops? Or I guess they are now called “everygame.eu”?? SBR had them as an A rating forever and they were atrocious. They didn’t even have live betting, payouts took a minimum of 4 business days.
                and they never even had anything really except main bets, no props or alternate lines.

                only good thing was they gave 100% cash or 50% cash when each sport started. the bad was it took forever to be paid.
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                • KiDBaZkiT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-20-09
                  • 14962

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pologq
                  and they never even had anything really except main bets, no props or alternate lines.

                  only good thing was they gave 100% cash or 50% cash when each sport started. the bad was it took forever to be paid.
                  Oh yeah. Spot on. They were and are currently dog Doo Doo.
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61554

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pologq
                    and they never even had anything really except main bets, no props or alternate lines.

                    only good thing was they gave 100% cash or 50% cash when each sport started. the bad was it took forever to be paid.
                    I think the attraction for some was early lines with bigger limits.

                    But the hoops they put anyone through who withdraws is a deal breaker for me.
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                    • pologq
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-07-12
                      • 19899

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      I think the attraction for some was early lines with bigger limits.

                      But the hoops they put anyone through who withdraws is a deal breaker for me.
                      you are right. they did have early lines. they also had a simple interface on the phone that i liked. not sure if that remains.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Intertops is a very very very small book

                        Years ago when there were not many in the space it was massive


                        There’s only really three properties that dominate the USA Sportsmarket so no reason to really Rate them


                        They all pay fast, they all have the same software and sports odds meaning menu selections that are large


                        The only thing you can rate are betting margins

                        Those ratings will start at a B and go to a D
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                        • Juan Valdez
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 11-10-21
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                          Outside of Nevada in the United States there are no A books except CIRCA
                          Circa is the best book for a specific type of bettor, without a doubt. But for most players who are in it for fun and just to have some skin in the game, it's not the most entertaining or accessible option.
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                          • Fishhead
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 08-11-05
                            • 40179

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Juan Valdez
                            Circa is the best book for a specific type of bettor, without a doubt. But for most players who are in it for fun and just to have some skin in the game, it's not the most entertaining or accessible option.
                            Fair statement.
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                            • flyingillini
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 41219

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                              Fair statement.
                              Fisher are you still in Vegas ?
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                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61554

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Juan Valdez
                                There are some A- ratings if you look on the Betting Sites page https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-sites/

                                The grades posted at the top of the forum are outdated but will get updated soon. The forum grades aren't connected to the rest of the site and must be manually changed.

                                You used to see a lot more A-rated books because the previous owner would accept money for higher grades and the ratings stopped being authentic. Really common amongst all product review sites, tbh.

                                The new direction of SBR is meant to change that and bring honesty and integrity back into ratings and they are not for sale. A new rating system is being developed that weighs standard features found at betting sites against the market and rates them based on how they compare against industry leaders. The current letter grades for the US, at least, are a loose reflection of that.

                                But, JJ is also correct that depending on your region, many of the regulated books are very similar, and the difference between a book rating B vs. B- or even C+ in the US could be slim sometimes.

                                For readers, Juan Valdez is the man over seeing SBR ratings and reviews now.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Juan Valdez
                                  Circa is the best book for a specific type of bettor, without a doubt. But for most players who are in it for fun and just to have some skin in the game, it's not the most entertaining or accessible option.
                                  yes..circa generic for the most part but high limits and no bannings or reduced limits on anyone


                                  Example in PA there is no reason to play at any book but fandual or draftkings they have everything and its why they dominate market and there technology above others

                                  Now if books started competing with bonuses and juice like offshore we have something maybe it will happen usa
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