Juan Soto Turns Down 15 Years $440M
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pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#36Comment -
TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-14-07
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#37I still believe people aren't watching sports that often anymore. So... in theory... there has to be an equation of advertising dollars spent for commercials.... while these games are being played? So in all essence... there must be some dumb companies advertising during these games. With that being said.... these networks make an offer to have rights for these games. Sure... we don't know the exact equation... but more or less... advertising companies are paying the bill. Sure... they try and pass the bill to the cable/satellite companies... then to the viewer.... Still til this day... I refuse to pay Bally's Sports Regional in Detroit through DirecTV. 6th straight year without paying any extra fees. Signal is still on. They can shove it up their a$$.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#38They don't watch as often as they did say in the 60's before the 'net, and their entertainment options were pretty much limited.
People still watch it, NFL is a guaranteed cash cow, even though I don't care to much for the NBA, the numbers don't lie, their numbers rose.
NHL Stanley Cup did very well.
Thing is today people cherry pick as to what they watch, and when they watch it.
In 1960 you had to watch a baseball game when they aired it, if they aired it.
In 2020 you can watch today's 2pm game on Tuesday at 4am if you wish.Comment -
Chief WahooSBR MVP
- 06-12-09
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#39Had to laugh at a Reds fan's comment either somewhere on here or Twitter stating he apparently turned down their offer of 5 years for $500k.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#40Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
- 02-09-08
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#41[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The federal government gave Moderna $2.5 billion to develop a COVID-19 vaccine. Meanwhile, Moderna's CEO just walked away from the company with a $926 million golden parachute. <br><br>This is what oligarchy looks like.</p>— Robert Reich (@RBReich) <a href="https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1548700810195910662?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]Comment -
unde0087BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-27-08
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#42[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The federal government gave Moderna $2.5 billion to develop a COVID-19 vaccine. Meanwhile, Moderna's CEO just walked away from the company with a $926 million golden parachute. <br><br>This is what oligarchy looks like.</p>— Robert Reich (@RBReich) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1548700810195910662?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]Jesus Thor, do you ever post anything that doesn't have anything to do with either Trump or Covid-19? Go back to the saloon and put Dr. Fauci's thumb back in your butthole.
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play4winSBR MVP
- 06-23-11
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#43zion should have rejected his rookie extension. so he reject a once in lifetime offer when he aint doing any damage/hype/potential. how cocky.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
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#44
it's not about how many watched or cared.
it's the $ in tv contracts, corporate sponsorships, stadium naming rights.
owners have become much more wealthy than the owners.
in the 70s were there internet streaming ads? 50 year old men wearing hats and jerseys with the newest rookie? debs filled with posters and merch from face team? did stadiums have names like guaranteed rate field?
steinbrenner bought yanks for 9 million. what would they sell for now? 3 billion? do those figures match inflation?
how do beer price changes at mlb ballparks differ? private boxes? parking? how do those figures track with inflation?Comment -
Mr KLCBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-19-07
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#45Saw that he should be valued at 13 years $481 million ($37 million annually). I would take the AAV, but in no way the years.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#46Absolutely correct.
I'm a super geek, and this is what super geeks do.
I spent a month (on and off) analyzing the past 25 (quarter century) years World Series champions, because I had a spirited debate with somebody who said hitting beats pitching, I said no, it's the other way around, pitching beats hitting.
So I did what I, super geek, always do.
I had to arm myself with data before I continued talking.
Even though those NY Yankee teams were stacked, they don't win shit without the rotation with Andy Pettitte, David Cone, Clemens, and a killer bullpen with the Jeff Nelson's, and Stanton's of the world. And that guy Mo, you know, the greatest ever at what he did, that being closing out games.
Angels won it all with just two hitters, Garrett Anderson and Troy Glaus, they don't win shit without solid starters and Troy Percival closing out games..
Giants won on the back of Mad Bum
KC Royals won with best bullpen we've seen in the past quarter century, that unit guaranteed a win if KC was tied or ahead after five innings.
And on and on and on
Past 25 years, 19 teams won with the better pitching staff or the pitching and hitting being equal.
Only six teams won on the backs of the offense.
You have the time? Do your research too, but trust your pal Nasher on this, these nerdy things I do is what I am, it's what I do.Comment -
BriGuySBR MVP
- 12-06-11
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#47
Once revenue stops increasing - if that ever happens - salaries will plateau. In the meantime, blame the fans for continue to watch the sports, buy tickets, buy merchandise, etc.Comment -
milwaukee mikeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-22-07
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#48it's not about how many watched or cared.
it's the $ in tv contracts, corporate sponsorships, stadium naming rights.
owners have become much more wealthy than the owners.
in the 70s were there internet streaming ads? 50 year old men wearing hats and jerseys with the newest rookie? debs filled with posters and merch from face team? did stadiums have names like guaranteed rate field?
steinbrenner bought yanks for 9 million. what would they sell for now? 3 billion? do those figures match inflation?
how do beer price changes at mlb ballparks differ? private boxes? parking? how do those figures track with inflation?
but beer/parking is up about 5-10x since the 1970s, tickets are up 5-10x... salaries are up over 100x
1975 beer $0.80, average ticket $5... all-in cost for a family of four in 1975 was $40, in 1991 it was $80, now it's $200... not ridiculous
the ad money/rights and getting taxpayers to pay for stadiums/etc is certainly a primary driver of salaries... if teams had to pay for their own $500 million stadiums and upkeep then of course salaries would be nowhere close to what they are... so essentially taxpayers are paying these ridiculous salariesComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#49good points
but beer/parking is up about 5-10x since the 1970s, tickets are up 5-10x... salaries are up over 100x
1975 beer $0.80, average ticket $5... all-in cost for a family of four in 1975 was $40, in 1991 it was $80, now it's $200... not ridiculous
the ad money/rights and getting taxpayers to pay for stadiums/etc is certainly a primary driver of salaries... if teams had to pay for their own $500 million stadiums and upkeep then of course salaries would be nowhere close to what they are... so essentially taxpayers are paying these ridiculous salaries
I'm not a cheap fuk by any means, that's not the issue here, I refuse to pay twelve dollars for a 24 ounce cup of keg beer, or eight dollars for a hot dog just on principle alone.
It's one thing they got 120 dollars for my ticket, it's just wrong to pay that kind of my for a dog and a beer.
I'm more than capable of sitting and watching a game for 3 1/2 hours without food or drink.Comment -
pilebuck13SBR Posting Legend
- 05-15-15
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#50I still attend about a dozen or so games a year, thing is I won't pay the food concession prices.
I'm not a cheap fuk by any means, that's not the issue here, I refuse to pay twelve dollars for a 24 ounce cup of keg beer, or eight dollars for a hot dog just on principle alone.
It's one thing they got 120 dollars for my ticket, it's just wrong to pay that kind of my for a dog and a beer.
I'm more than capable of sitting and watching a game for 3 1/2 hours without food or drink.Comment -
TheLockSBR Posting Legend
- 04-06-08
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#51People get all triggered when the elitist of the elite baseball players on the planet gets a huge contract but no one cares how people afford to live on Billionaires Row in ManhattanComment -
TheLockSBR Posting Legend
- 04-06-08
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#52One thing working against Soto (it’s small but it’s something) is that he’s the 45th best player in baseball THIS year.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#53
As a baseball junkie, who goes to games 12-18 times a season for baseball reasons only, NO, I do OK for myself and my family, I could afford 60 dollars for myself a game on what is pretty much junk food 18 times a season.
Doesn't make sense.Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
- 02-09-08
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#54No comment on the 926 mil this guy got but you are all in when it comes to a sports athlete being paid. 926 million is very close too a billion if you have trouble with math.Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
- 02-09-08
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#55BTW didn’t Rendon get this kind of money? Could be the worst money spent on someone in history.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#56
The greatest of the greats not only have to be born with talent, they still have to work tirelessly at developing their craft, mostly in blazing heat in Arizona, or Florida, the (pardon the pun) the hot beds of baseball
I was a catcher, a good hitter too.
I was primary DH, backup catcher.
The starting catcher had better defensive skills than me, but I could rake.
Line drive doubles type of hitter, not a lot of HR power, some, not a lot.
I played up to scholastic level. At that level I was good, but that was a far as it went.
I was not good enough to even tryout for the Cape Code League, and at 5' 8", not big enough either.
My point being in my usual long winded way is, as a catcher I know about the work that has to be put in, and the bruises the body takes.
I used to catch a guy, we're still friends, who at the age of 17 had a freakish fastball, his heater topped 90 MPH, thirty years ago most minor league pros weren't even topping 90 mph.
I'm warming him up between innings, one of his heaters caught my catchers mitt in a fashion that snapped by thumb straight back.
Thirty years later I still feel the effects, that thumb still doesn't work right. So I know what needs to be done to be elite.
What's elite?
Top two percent? Four percent?
1200 MLB players on the forty man rosters.
Two percent would be 24 players.
They deserve top dollar, for sure.
My problem is with the bottom four percent, say bottom 50, or even bottom 100, are they really worth the minimum 700,00 dollars.
Really?
But I do understand supply and demand, and baseball has always had a shortage of good left handed pitchers.
So if the demand is for a lefty with a live arm, no matter the skill set or talent, he's going to be overpaid, simply because the lack of players.
That's one of the reasons why I'm big of meritocracy, you should get what you get based on metit.Comment
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