It’s a shame is very few people at Belmont Park anymore

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    It’s a shame is very few people at Belmont Park anymore
    I’m watching the live feed it’s just scattered people and best horses and jocks in world and summer weekend

    Part of the problem is it’s so expensive to go if you don’t live right around the place

    It’s probably the lowest attendance in the country from all the circuits
  • slayer14
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-12-13
    • 22010

    #2
    It the best racing in the world
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    • flyingillini
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 41219

      #3
      My first choice of tracks in America is Freehold. Ever since the renovation in 2019, it is the premier track. I have never seen anything like it in ** life. Top of the line and no track even comes close.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Freehold very small
        Illini meet me there next weekend
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        • pologq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-07-12
          • 19899

          #5
          the class at belmont sucks. turns people off.

          i miss going there with my dad. we always sat at the finish line on the lower level.
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          • flyingillini
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 41219

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Freehold very small
            Illini meet me there next weekend
            You have not been there since the renovation. It is the premier track in America these days.
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            • biggie12
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-30-05
              • 13788

              #7
              Yeah same story every park. Woodbine ghost town
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              • INVEGA MAN
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-30-08
                • 6800

                #8
                Del Mar will open soon and still has nice crowds
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                • RangeFinder
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-27-16
                  • 8041

                  #9
                  The problem with horseracing is the gambling landscape has changed. People are taking their gambling dollar elsewhere now. Most people are now betting from home, not at a casino, not at a card room and especially not at the racetrack. The internet has hurt attendance in all of those venues, not just racetracks. People got comfortable just gambling from home. Therein lies the problem.

                  The main question is, how do you fix it?
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                  • RangeFinder
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-27-16
                    • 8041

                    #10
                    Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                    Del Mar will open soon and still has nice crowds
                    Even Del Mar has dropped attendance, bigly. Other than opening day.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Great post but no idea

                      Kentucky racing flourishing always has

                      Gulfstream winter meet does ok

                      Cali tracks ok

                      Originally posted by RangeFinder
                      The problem with horseracing is the gambling landscape has changed. People are taking their gambling dollar elsewhere now. Most people are now betting from home, not at a casino, not at a card room and especially not at the racetrack. The internet has hurt attendance in all of those venues, not just racetracks. People got comfortable just gambling from home. Therein lies the problem.

                      The main question is, how do you fix it?
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                      • pologq
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-07-12
                        • 19899

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RangeFinder
                        The problem with horseracing is the gambling landscape has changed. People are taking their gambling dollar elsewhere now. Most people are now betting from home, not at a casino, not at a card room and especially not at the racetrack. The internet has hurt attendance in all of those venues, not just racetracks. People got comfortable just gambling from home. Therein lies the problem.

                        The main question is, how do you fix it?
                        i think what hurts also is that horse racing used to be the only gambling people had access to. then offshore sports books came out and people were able to bet sports while not in vegas. it has even gone further with sports betting legalized in many states. people who have the (sports) gambling disease are not limited to just horse racing. horse racing used to have that novelty and now it is gone.

                        i need more entertainment when i go to belmont. i get bored between races. there is a ton of downtime that i think people do not like. happens with baseball too.
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                        • mike1234
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-06-07
                          • 457

                          #13
                          Decent amount of people at Monmouth on Saturday. I was surprised.
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                          • Dr. Fager
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 05-12-11
                            • 244

                            #14
                            Horse racing has failed to capture young blood, mostly older people following. Race tracks will continue to close as real estate they sit on much more valuable as condos/aptmts and other type development. California thoroughbred racing will go the way of greyhound racing in Ma., Fl., etc., no longer existing. Small fields more prevalent today than ever (especially S. Ca.), people don't want to bet on five/six horse fields and that's before scratches. Dying sport in USA, not enough of us to support it. NY, Kentucky and Fl only states that have meets of national interest. Del Mar is always top shelf but horse population severely diminished. Oaklawn, worth mentioning but no turf course is a negative.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              It’s a summer track and it’s only open a couple days a week that’s why, I think they should move New York racing to the meadowlands they were doing much better more centralized location

                              Originally posted by mike1234
                              Decent amount of people at Monmouth on Saturday. I was surprised.
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                              • gauchojake
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-17-10
                                • 34113

                                #16
                                Look at the handles
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                                • SamsNCharge99
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-22-08
                                  • 41242

                                  #17
                                  Back to saratoga!!!!!
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                                  • VeggieDog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-21-09
                                    • 7214

                                    #18
                                    Went to Santa Anita on a Sunday last month. Ghost town. No young people, just old farts. Sport seems to be flat-lining.
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                                    • Roscoe_Word
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-28-12
                                      • 3999

                                      #19
                                      Don't know who draws more: USFL or Horse Racing
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        That place does very well
                                        I think last year the attendance was down a little bit

                                        Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                                        Back to saratoga!!!!!
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                                        • ThaWoj
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 6762

                                          #21
                                          Life long dream to go to cypress CA and watch the quarter dogs at Los Al on Katella avenue.

                                          Churchill is the best track I've ever been to.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82838

                                            #22
                                            Belmont Park right now is like SBR after they closed the store. The more it stays closed the less people stay here.
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                                            • cecil127
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-19-09
                                              • 7310

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by flyingillini
                                              You have not been there since the renovation. It is the premier track in America these days.
                                              you drinking from the left over Agent Orange 55 gal drums again, biblebanger?
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                                              • floridagolfer
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-19-08
                                                • 2757

                                                #24
                                                Why doesn't the industry think outside the box a little? Every horseplayer complains about takeout, so why doesn't a track promote something like a 5-percent discount on wagers made at the track? If you bet an exacta somewhere else, the takeout is 20 percent; if you bet an exacta at the track, it's 15 percent. Would more people go to the track? I don't know, but doing nothing doesn't work, either.

                                                I love Belmont Park, but being there in a crowd of a thousand people is sad.
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                                                • pologq
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-07-12
                                                  • 19899

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                                  Why doesn't the industry think outside the box a little? Every horseplayer complains about takeout, so why doesn't a track promote something like a 5-percent discount on wagers made at the track? If you bet an exacta somewhere else, the takeout is 20 percent; if you bet an exacta at the track, it's 15 percent. Would more people go to the track? I don't know, but doing nothing doesn't work, either.

                                                  I love Belmont Park, but being there in a crowd of a thousand people is sad.
                                                  agree. there needs to be incentive to place your bets at belmont itself. comp dollars/cash, better odds, bonuses, etc.
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                                                  • pologq
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                    • 19899

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                                                    Back to saratoga!!!!!
                                                    our last vacation with my Dad was Lake George Aug 2020 and we stopped at Saratoga for the day. it is a quaint little town. very interesting to walk around.
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                                                    • gauchojake
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 09-17-10
                                                      • 34113

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                      Life long dream to go to cypress CA and watch the quarter dogs at Los Al on Katella avenue.

                                                      Churchill is the best track I've ever been to.
                                                      Let's go!!
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                                                      • flyingillini
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 41219

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                        Let's go!!
                                                        Gaucho Loco do you remember they had satellite wagering at Earl Warren Showgrounds, did you ever go there?
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                                                        • BOA12
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-19-12
                                                          • 20622

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                          Life long dream to go to cypress CA and watch the quarter dogs at Los Al on Katella avenue.

                                                          Churchill is the best track I've ever been to.
                                                          Churchill, Saratoga & San Anita are all classic survivors. Been to all three, can't split 'em. Hope you make it to the left coast bro.
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                                                          • BOA12
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-19-12
                                                            • 20622

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by flyingillini
                                                            Gaucho Loco do you remember they had satellite wagering at Earl Warren Showgrounds, did you ever go there?
                                                            Flying you ever been to Greyville.IL OTB, outside Evansville IN? Been gone for 25 years, where I hit my $4000 tri W/Ziggy Stardust at AP. Golf Paradise as well. 45 mins to Ellis Park, was there that day too. Got back to Greyville just in time to make the wager.
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                                                            • Skidcom
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-17-06
                                                              • 1796

                                                              #31
                                                              Just don't see what will make the crowds come back. I agree, it is sad. Nothing more thrilling than a day at the track with the best horses and exuberant punters
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                The location is terrible not centrally located and too much money to get to it
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                                                                • OldBill
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-02-21
                                                                  • 6416

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i play horses a lot i learned long ago how to hadicap them the flats not harness problem today is the books used to handica them cost $8- $9 but you dont see all races of each horse.

                                                                  way back in 80's it was huge news paper size only cost $3 i grabed one monster lonshot at medowlands simulcast it was pouring buckets horse showed 10 races back on muddy filed won by 10 lengths odds on board 55-1 wam i got $5 across the board he smashed that field won by 5 lengths .......... guy after ask me how i picked him ...i showed him in racing form .... he says im buying that form from now on ...

                                                                  HEY $2 a race you get lucky hit a few nice price horses 5-1 7-1 etc..
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Past performances free many places online if you bet $2 on that card
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