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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    If you’re not betting dime lines in baseball quit gambling
    Has to be up to -180

    God I’m still trying to teach you guys
  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #2
    As long as you get the price you want, bet it.

    Nothing more to it, Gold.

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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      90% bet any line
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        90% bet any line
        This is why we can still win, Gold.

        This is why markets can become "inefficient"

        At least part of the reason.
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        • OldBill
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-02-21
          • 6416

          #5
          you do not get dime lines on bigger favs they use up to ,40 cent lines like - 280 fav your dog ainy gonna be +270 it will be like +240

          and your not suppsed to bet on any chalks in bases higher than - 160
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            A true dime line is usually up to -190
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #7
              Gold BOL was dealing a Doyers line of -221/+201

              Is that a dime line?

              Sugarhouse in NJ and Parx in PA were dealing -245/+200, NJ Fan Dual had -245/+198

              lol
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                Look at those guys more than doubling the hold, on what kind of action?

                BOL with 2% hold and those guys at 4.2%.

                I talk about this in that last video about "Knowing Your Markets"

                We'll take Zona at close to 2-1. Who's leading and who's lagging there?

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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  90% bet any line
                  Originally posted by KVB
                  ... ...
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #10
                    You're only betting one side, so why does it really matter what the other side is?

                    Book A:
                    Toronto -150
                    Seattle +130

                    Book B:
                    Toronto -155
                    Seattle +145

                    Does it matter that Book A isn't dealing a dimeline? If you want to bet on Toronto, you're better off betting into that 20 cent line than the dimeline.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      How about Bet MGM?

                      -250/+195

                      5% hold.
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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #12
                        Originally posted by d2bets
                        You're only betting one side, so why does it really matter what the other side is?

                        Book A:
                        Toronto -150
                        Seattle +130

                        Book B:
                        Toronto -155
                        Seattle +145

                        Does it matter that Book A isn't dealing a dimeline? If you want to bet on Toronto, you're better off betting into that 20 cent line than the dimeline.
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        As long as you get the price you want, bet it.

                        Nothing more to it, Gold.

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                        • clockwise1965
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-01-13
                          • 6753

                          #13
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          You're only betting one side, so why does it really matter what the other side is?

                          Book A:
                          Toronto -150
                          Seattle +130

                          Book B:
                          Toronto -155
                          Seattle +145

                          Does it matter that Book A isn't dealing a dimeline? If you want to bet on Toronto, you're better off betting into that 20 cent line than the dimeline.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            The USA books really price gauge
                            It’s a disgrace

                            Then they wonder why offshore flourishes
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                            • texhooper
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-05-09
                              • 10001

                              #15
                              Originally posted by d2bets
                              You're only betting one side, so why does it really matter what the other side is?

                              Book A:
                              Toronto -150
                              Seattle +130

                              Book B:
                              Toronto -155
                              Seattle +145

                              Does it matter that Book A isn't dealing a dimeline? If you want to bet on Toronto, you're better off betting into that 20 cent line than the dimeline.
                              This is of course true but you’re much more often gonna see book b at say -145/+135. IE both sides with a better price on the dime line than the 20 cent line. But of course all games are like snowflakes
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Back to that Dodgers/Zona game.

                                I work with several forecasts, as many know, and the non predictive public gauge, which I usually give as a score because I hold tight my conversions to percentages, does tell us something.

                                Instead of a score, I'm going to give a percentage.

                                Even though the public isn't thinking of break even percentages, etc, and will pay any price, I do estimate the price at which the public will question the larger number.

                                The puplic gauge gives us a 72% probability of winning, even though the public doesn't know it. This tells us the public might be turned off at the -257/+257 or say -255 or -260 price. It also suggest that to get the public to start thinking about a number, +250 or so just might do it.

                                I know we say the public doesn't care about the number, and this is pretty much true. But what I'm doing is taking this to a deeper level of public sentiment, one they bettor's themselves may not realize exists.

                                It's the number that would cause the bettor who doesn't care about the number, to start thinking twice when he sees the number. They often act like brackets outside the sharper predictions.

                                Remember, that is a non-predictive public gauge, designed to estimate publice sentiment and this is one way I use it as a gauge.

                                Even though the public doesn't care about numbers, they can still be affected by them, especially their pocketbooks.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Let me sum this up really easy

                                  Player A plays at a 20 cent line shop


                                  Player B plays at a dime line shop

                                  Player B long term has a massive edge
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                    ...The puplic gauge gives us a 72% probability of winning, even though the public doesn't know it. This tells us the public might be turned off at the -257/+257 or say -255 or -260 price. It also suggest that to get the public to start thinking about a number, +250 or so just might do it...
                                    Again, I usually give scores and not percentages, but a much sharper forecast shows a different percentage.

                                    My stacking percentages forecast gives Doyers a 64.89% advantage converting to roughly a -185/+185 price.

                                    So let's see how that LAD/Zona line develops today.

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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      On a sidenote does anybody have a fat stack?
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #20
                                        Vegas toys around with a +190, +193, +195 line on Zona.

                                        With my -185/+185 prediction, just how much overlay does the better need to trigger a bet?

                                        Do I need 5 cents, 7 cents, 9 cents?

                                        How about the 15 cents with all those +200 lines?

                                        I'm not saying I have the ultimate stacking percentages prediction, but within the realms of reasonable and bettable overlay, and seeing the lines in the market, I have to feel pretty good about that prediction, or probability.

                                        As if it's record compared to the market isn't enough, the line moves towards mine, usually.

                                        I will say this, though, over the last 100 or so plays, my stacking percentages forecast has done better against the closing line than the opening, which means the line has been moving away from me.

                                        It happens.
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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          On a sidenote does anybody have a fat stack?
                                          Just how fat we talkin', Gold?

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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            KVB your broke man
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #23
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                ...My stacking percentages forecast gives Doyers a 64.89% advantage converting to roughly a -185/+185 price.

                                                So let's see how that LAD/Zona line develops today...
                                                Bookmaker trading at +187 and much of the market in the +190's.

                                                Refer to the video above to see how the market gets led.

                                                See why I still feel pretty good about that stacking forecast prediction?

                                                Just how much overlay does a sharp forecast need?
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  ...Sugarhouse in NJ and Parx in PA were dealing -245/+200, NJ Fan Dual had -245/+198...
                                                  Sugarhouse and Parx have the dog at +185.
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                                                  • ThaTopMoron
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 04-30-10
                                                    • 27020

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Has to be up to -180

                                                    God I’m still trying to teach you guys
                                                    i don't bet MLB

                                                    you're team could be up 9-5 3 outs left and some idiot closer has his worst outing of the season and boom you lose in extras... mlb is dumb until later in the playoffs
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