USA Live Wagering Confirms Way Faster Than Offshore

**Brooklyn Dick** · 05-14-22, 06:23 AM

The US books just have not yet figured out how to screw you with delays. For example the next point in tennis, bad for you it is a bet. Good for you NO.

**pavyracer** · 05-14-22, 07:28 AM

How much faster? Are we talking nanoseconds, seconds, minutes, hours, days faster?

**jjgold** · 05-14-22, 09:21 AM

at least 15 seconds

**lakerboy** · 05-14-22, 09:49 AM

Let's put it this way. If they let you bet it live it isn't winning.

**pavyracer** · 05-14-22, 09:56 AM

I like betting live in soccer because 15 seconds of delay does not mean much like other sports like basketball and hockey.

I have used this strategy before for overs and unders. If a game I like under gets an early goal I immediately bet the under live for a better price or if a game I like over if is 0-0 after 60 minutes I bet it live for better price.

Also a good time to bet live is right before the subs are done in 2nd half, usually around 60 min or 75 min mark. Watch on TV who is coming in and who is going out and bet accordingly on over or under before the books adjust price.

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

The US books just have not yet figured out how to screw you with delays. For example the next point in tennis, bad for you it is a bet. Good for you NO.

The hell they haven't. What books are you taking about?

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Let's put it this way. If they let you bet it live it isn't winning.

Wrong.

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

How much faster? Are we talking nanoseconds, seconds, minutes, hours, days faster?

Depends on the book AND the player. The US books definitely know how to target players with longer delays. Some worse than others. Fanduel is among the worst culprits in this area.

**pilebuck13** · 05-14-22, 11:19 AM

Bookmaker has been doing this lately to me and I’m curious what’s going on here because I go to place live bet and it delays then either goes thru or it does not and it’s like hmmmm sometimes it confirms and it’s after I got a terrible line

**lakerboy** · 05-14-22, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Wrong.

No I'm not. They will lock up all the time offshore. If you have plenty of time to get it in that's not good. You are playing the numbers to squeeze. I play to win.

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=pilebuck13;30878537]Bookmaker has been doing this lately to me and I’m curious what’s going on here because I go to place live bet and it delays then either goes thru or it does not and it’s like hmmmm sometimes it confirms and it’s after I got a terrible line[/QUOTE]
They give you a different/worse wager then what you asked to confirm?

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

No I'm not. They will lock up all the time offshore. If you have plenty of time to get it in that's not good. You are playing the numbers to squeeze. I play to win.

OK well, I was talking specifically onshore. Numbers to squeeze? Not sure what that means, but my goal is winning money. It is true you need to be as fast and nimble as possible. Good numbers don't last.

**jjgold** · 05-14-22, 12:22 PM

Bookmaker delays bigger players on purpose

It’s a book on the decline quicker than I thought

**goduke** · 05-14-22, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Let's put it this way. If they let you bet it live it isn't winning.

Or if they let you bet it live and you bet it for a decent amount and the line doesn’t move after you do that. Well you can just flush that money away

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by goduke

Or if they let you bet it live and you bet it for a decent amount and the line doesn’t move after you do that. Well you can just flush that money away

Why? You think the line moves on live action? Never. It's pretty much all algorithm.

**goduke** · 05-14-22, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Why? You think the line moves on live action? Never. It's pretty much all algorithm.

In hockey I’ve seen where I’ve put 5 figure bets on a live game and if the line didn’t move I could pretty much just flush that money. Maybe it’s a coincidence but anytime I’ve done that live and it’s moved after I’ve won

**jjgold** · 05-14-22, 01:56 PM

Bigger bets are flagged people and guys profiled

They can do tons of stuff on the backend

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by goduke

In hockey I’ve seen where I’ve put 5 figure bets on a live game and if the line didn’t move I could pretty much just flush that money. Maybe it’s a coincidence but anytime I’ve done that live and it’s moved after I’ve won

5 figures in one wager live. Where?

**eidolon** · 05-14-22, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

The US books just have not yet figured out how to screw you with delays. For example the next point in tennis, bad for you it is a bet. Good for you NO.

True haha.
But, with it being in the states the law will be on our side compared to the BS offshore pulls.

**d2bets** · 05-14-22, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by eidolon

True haha.
But, with it being in the states the law will be on our side compared to the BS offshore pulls.

Ummm, law against what? Law against live bet delays? Good luck with that.

**Fishhead** · 05-15-22, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Ummm, law against what? Law against live bet delays? Good luck with that.

**Fishhead** · 05-15-22, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

OK well, I was talking specifically onshore. Numbers to squeeze? Not sure what that means, but my goal is winning money. It is true you need to be as fast and nimble as possible. Good numbers don't last.

Said for years now, professional gamblers greatest athletes in the world

**jjgold** · 05-15-22, 10:01 AM

Tennis players are the greatest athletes in the world, just think about it have to travel all the time extremely physical sport, have to train wherever they are and whatever facilities they have, constantly in hotels and have to perform at a high-level

**Fishhead** · 05-15-22, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Tennis players are the greatest athletes in the world, just think about it have to travel all the time extremely physical sport, have to train wherever they are and whatever facilities they have, constantly in hotels and have to perform at a high-level

TOP NOTCH for certain............I remember when we hit the ball around for 17 minutes on the Bellagio courts, was exhausted and in pain for the next 4 days.

**KiDBaZkiT** · 05-15-22, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Let's put it this way. If they let you bet it live it isn't winning.

This.

**jjgold** · 05-15-22, 10:54 AM

Lol

Originally posted by Fishhead

TOP NOTCH for certain............I remember when we hit the ball around for 17 minutes on the Bellagio courts, was exhausted and in pain for the next 4 days.

**icon** · 05-22-22, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Said for years now, professional gamblers greatest athletes in the world

**jjgold** · 05-22-22, 05:52 AM

The offshore software kind of antiquated as far as live betting

**scottgodson1985** · 05-22-22, 05:05 PM

the only offshore worth live betting with is cris, bol used to be great but they have limited all winners on livebet. The usa books are good for live betting

**jjgold** · 05-22-22, 05:24 PM

Software too clunky offshore as far as live wagering

Takes up a lot of system resources to

Navigation iffy

EZ Live software C+

That one called Plus and various other names solid B

Betonline version not great

**pavyracer** · 05-22-22, 06:00 PM

I found a loophole in offshore live betting and exploiding it as we speak.