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  • Thor4140
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    • 02-09-08
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    #1
    Eagles trade with Saints
    Why even do this. You give away a first to take a chance of getting a better first a year later.



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  • USCPHILLYGUY
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    • 12-15-12
    • 21746

    #2
    Howie a genius. Gives them another year to see if Hurts is the guy. Saints will be horrible this year

    This years draft class is very weak
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    • Bcatswin
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      • 12-21-10
      • 13931

      #3
      Circus anymore
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      • Thor4140
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        • 02-09-08
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        #4
        Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
        Howie a genius. Gives them another year to see if Hurts is the guy. Saints will be horrible this year

        This years draft class is very weak
        Maybe he is afraid to blow three picks so he wants to get rid of two of them
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        • USCPHILLYGUY
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          • 12-15-12
          • 21746

          #5
          Originally posted by Thor4140
          Maybe he is afraid to blow three picks so he wants to get rid of two of them
          Yeah ok
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          • d2bets
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            • 08-10-05
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            #6
            Originally posted by Thor4140
            Why even do this. You give away a first to take a chance of getting a better first a year later.



            [IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A major shakeup to this year’s draft.<br><br>More ahead on ESPN’s NFL Live on the air now. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/CYOwDEAymn">pic.twitter.com/CYOwDEAymn</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1511071598127861765?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >April 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]
            No. If you figure the 6th for the 7th aren't that much different, Saints are moving up from #101 to #16 in exchange for giving up their next two first round picks. Of course timelines are everything, but seems like a pretty good deal for the Eagles. Same number of picks this year, but now they have an extra first rounder each of the next two seasons.
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            • Thor4140
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              • 02-09-08
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              #7
              Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
              Yeah ok
              I thought you were being sarcastic saying Howie was a genius. I guess your really believe that wow
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              • USCPHILLYGUY
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                • 12-15-12
                • 21746

                #8
                Originally posted by Thor4140
                I thought you were being sarcastic saying Howie was a genius. I guess your really believe that wow
                It was a great trade. This years draft class very weak. If Hurts Struggles then you have 2 #1s next year to try & get a QB.

                Are you from Philly
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                • Thor4140
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                  • 02-09-08
                  • 22296

                  #9
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  No. If you figure the 6th for the 7th aren't that much different, Saints are moving up from #101 to #16 in exchange for giving up their next two first round picks. Of course timelines are everything, but seems like a pretty good deal for the Eagles. Same number of picks this year, but now they have an extra first rounder each of the next two seasons.
                  They pick like garbage so extra picks basically mean nothing. they should trade their picks for players. Not college kids they have no clue about. Saints will not be as bad as phillyguy thinks so losing two ones for one , than one a year later that most likely will be right around where it is this year, makes no sense to me. Remember they had three ones in the first round. Now two. Just not some super trade to me. I think the Saints got the better of the trade it not by much.
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                  • Thor4140
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                    • 02-09-08
                    • 22296

                    #10
                    Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                    It was a great trade. This years draft class very weak. If Hurts Struggles then you have 2 #1s next year to try & get a QB.

                    Are you from Philly
                    It is not a great trade and anyone worth a piss knows Hurtz blows. 25 min from philly
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                    • USCPHILLYGUY
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                      • 12-15-12
                      • 21746

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                      It is not a great trade and anyone worth a piss knows Hurtz blows. 25 min from philly
                      Never said Hurts was the Messiah. Read my post.

                      Can you imagine paying 3 1st rd picks AFTER their rookie deal is up?
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                      • d2bets
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                        • 08-10-05
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        They pick like garbage so extra picks basically mean nothing. they should trade their picks for players. Not college kids they have no clue about. Saints will not be as bad as phillyguy thinks so losing two ones for one , than one a year later that most likely will be right around where it is this year, makes no sense to me. Remember they had three ones in the first round. Now two. Just not some super trade to me. I think the Saints got the better of the trade it not by much.
                        I think they can both get better of trade based on timelines. But with the same timeline, I'd say Eagles have a better portfolio coming from this, especially if the Saints falter the next two seasons, which is quite possible. Essentially all the Eagles did was drop from mid-first round to the third round and in exchange they got two first round picks, which who knows might be in the top 10 or top 5. Even if they are in the 20's it's not a bad deal. The more I look at it the more it looks like the Eagles got the better deal. Whether they can end up drafting well with it is another story, but either way it's picks in both directions. Now they have more bullets from which to get players.
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                        • Thor4140
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                          • 02-09-08
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                          Never said Hurts was the Messiah. Read my post.

                          Can you imagine paying 3 1st rd picks AFTER their rookie deal is up?
                          That was the first thing i thought when they made the trade
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                          • Thor4140
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                            • 02-09-08
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            I think they can both get better of trade based on timelines. But with the same timeline, I'd say Eagles have a better portfolio coming from this, especially if the Saints falter the next two seasons, which is quite possible. Essentially all the Eagles did was drop from mid-first round to the third round and in exchange they got two first round picks, which who knows might be in the top 10 or top 5. Even if they are in the 20's it's not a bad deal. The more I look at it the more it looks like the Eagles got the better deal. Whether they can end up drafting well with it is another story, but either way it's picks in both directions. Now they have more bullets from which to get players.
                            Only the eagles would start dealing their picks now. Imagine what you could do with them on draft day when people realize you have three and a player they want is still on the board. Why now
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                            • Yulia74
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                              • 08-28-18
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                              #15
                              saints fuked up
                              did it to draft a qb, 2023 qbs are better
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                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                • 03-11-11
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                                #16
                                I like the trade for Philly. They have a lot of options with multiple first round picks each draft in the coming years.
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                                • pavyracer
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                                  • 04-12-07
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                                  #17
                                  This is a great deal. Saints will be tanking so the Eagles may get a Top 5 pick next year out of this.
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                                  • hehfest
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                                    • 09-28-08
                                    • 7934

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                    Howie a genius. Gives them another year to see if Hurts is the guy. Saints will be horrible this year

                                    This years draft class is very weak

                                    He IS NOT the guy. If that's not clear to them by now, then its possible they are the worse talent evaluators left on Earth.
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                                    • Thor4140
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                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by hehfest
                                      He IS NOT the guy. If that's not clear to them by now, then its possible they are the worse talent evaluators left on Earth.
                                      That is why the trade is nothing unless they get someone who can evaluate talent which is never
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                                      • Saintsfan1977
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                                        • 01-10-11
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                        Saints will be horrible this year

                                        This years draft class is very weak
                                        Saints won 9 games with 4 QBs, no OLINE, and no WRs. Im not saying you're wrong because anything could happen but I don't think you know much about this team.
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                                        • Saintsfan1977
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                                          • 01-10-11
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Yulia74
                                          saints fuked up
                                          did it to draft a qb, 2023 qbs are better
                                          The Saints will be ****** if that's the plan. It's not. They will draft OT and WR

                                          Saints wanted Watson and didn't get him. They have Winston for 2 years, Andy Dalton and Ian Book and Taysom Hill (TE) . Wtf would they draft a shit QB this year?
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                                          • pilebuck13
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                                            • 05-15-15
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                            Howie a genius. Gives them another year to see if Hurts is the guy. Saints will be horrible this year

                                            This years draft class is very weak
                                            I love the draft class is very weak statements when some of the best nfl players ever In history have been late round draft picks… terrible quarterback draft ect ect you got 3 rd round and later guys hall of fame careers and Brady best to ever play football but everyone knows the drafts lmao
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                                            • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                              • 12-15-12
                                              • 21746

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                              I love the draft class is very weak statements when some of the best nfl players ever In history have been late round draft picks… terrible quarterback draft ect ect you got 3 rd round and later guys hall of fame careers and Brady best to ever play football but everyone knows the drafts lmao
                                              Wasn’t Brady drafted in 2000

                                              You’re right. A definite miss on my part. My bad Bucker
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                                              • Thor4140
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                                                • 02-09-08
                                                • 22296

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Saintsfan1977
                                                Saints won 9 games with 4 QBs, no OLINE, and no WRs. Im not saying you're wrong because anything could happen but I don't think you know much about this team.
                                                They will finish higher than Philly. weird how all these guys think the Saints suck all of a sudden
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                                                • MinnesotaFats
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                                                  • 12-18-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  PhillyGuy you are such a Homer man

                                                  Saints are a solid squad, Eagles are missing too many pieces & Hurts is terrible, let's be honest.

                                                  Stop seeing the football world thru those rose colored glasses of yours
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                                                  • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                                    • 12-15-12
                                                    • 21746

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                    They will finish higher than Philly. weird how all these guys think the Saints suck all of a sudden
                                                    Thor shoot me a PM. Can wager if you like
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                                                    • jackpot269
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                                                      • 09-24-07
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      No. If you figure the 6th for the 7th aren't that much different, Saints are moving up from #101 to #16 in exchange for giving up their next two first round picks. Of course timelines are everything, but seems like a pretty good deal for the Eagles. Same number of picks this year, but now they have an extra first rounder each of the next two seasons.
                                                      Why would the saints just give away 1st and a 2nd!! Back to the aints and brown bags !! Gotta be missing something?
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                                                      • pilebuck13
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                                                        • 05-15-15
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                        Wasn’t Brady drafted in 2000

                                                        You’re right. A definite miss on my part. My bad Bucker
                                                        Not just talking about Brady there’s a long list
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                                                        • USCPHILLYGUY
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                                                          • 12-15-12
                                                          • 21746

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                          Not just talking about Brady there’s a long list
                                                          My comment was meant towards the QB draft class of next as opposed to this year. Apologies
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                                                          • pilebuck13
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                                                            • 05-15-15
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                                            My comment was meant towards the QB draft class of next as opposed to this year. Apologies
                                                            Nothing to apologize just saying all these guys who get paid big bucks to analyze quarterbacks and the draft are usually terribly wrong that’s all I’m saying
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                                                            • dxp
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                                                              • 10-06-18
                                                              • 463

                                                              #31
                                                              how can anyone NOT think this was a great trade for the eagles? they basically got a free 3rd rounder this year and a free 2nd rounder in 2 years.. all for delaying one of their picks until next year.

                                                              even if the saints are OK, the pick should be around the same spot in 2023. it's questionable how good they can be, so maybe they even hit a top 10. but the obvious part is the QB class is way better. this allows them to BS and say hurts is the man while they plan their next move.

                                                              the saints are in a rush and the eagles jumped on it.
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                                                              • Saintsfan1977
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                                                                • 01-10-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jackpot269
                                                                Why would the saints just give away 1st and a 2nd!! Back to the aints and brown bags !! Gotta be missing something?
                                                                Simple. They get 2 players in the first to fill needs. If Sean Payton coaches another team next year, we get a first fir him since he's still under contract. Think about it.
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                                                                • Stallion
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                                                                  • 03-21-10
                                                                  • 3617

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Great trade for both teams.
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    • 04-02-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Saintsfan1977
                                                                    Saints won 9 games with 4 QBs, no OLINE, and no WRs. Im not saying you're wrong because anything could happen but I don't think you know much about this team.
                                                                    Do they have the same coach this coming season?
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                                                                    • Saintsfan1977
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                                                                      • 01-10-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                      Do they have the same coach this coming season?
                                                                      Coaching staff, yes. HC, no. I get your point. We will see how much Payton was worth in wins. It's very possible this team blows without him, but it's also possible that the coaches here now stick with the plan that was working. We'll see. I don't play team over /unders on wins. I think 8 is right on the money but Allen hasn't had success as a HC. We'll see if his faults show up this year. I don't think this team will be a, perennial playoff team anymore but there is still a great group of players here.
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