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  • Goat Milk
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    #1
    Is Aaron Rodgers himself the reason why he hasn't won more superbowls?
    Every time I see him do a new deal he is the highest paid player on a per year basis. While i look at someone like brady and he takes many pay cuts.

    Now I am not judging him for taking the money. I am sure he is worth the money and you want to get what your worth. But why is he always complaining about not building the right team around him? If a ring were really that important to him, why do you have to make 50 million a year, why not 30 million and then bring in the right pieces.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
  • johnnyvegas13
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    #2
    Yup he ruined own team
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    • stevenash
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      #3
      Rodgers is not a come from behind type of QB.
      It's proven he can't lead an offense when losing in the fourth to a victory.

      Take a look at this, most come from behind 4th quarter comebacks (since 1960)
      You may hurt your neck looking for Rodger's name.



      1. Tom Brady (46), 2. Peyton Manning (43), 3. Ben Roethlisberger (41), 4. Matt Ryan (38), 4. Matthew Stafford (38),
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      • johnnyvegas13
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        #4
        Originally posted by stevenash
        Rodgers is not a come from behind type of QB.
        It's proven he can't lead an offense when losing in the fourth to a victory.

        Take a look at this, most come from behind 4th quarter comebacks (since 1960)
        You may hurt your neck looking for Rodger's name.



        https://www.pro-football-reference.c...cks_career.htm
        Great list Nash

        shows Stafford is a top qb just stuck on the lions
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        • stevenash
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          #5
          Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
          Great list Nash

          shows Stafford is a top qb just stuck on the lions
          That's an incredible stat, right?
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          • johnnyvegas13
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            #6
            Originally posted by stevenash
            That's an incredible stat, right?
            Ya he should b the leader by time his career ends

            assuming Brady plays just one more year
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            • jjgold
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              #7
              The word is he’s not a leader
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              • Goat Milk
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                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Rodgers is not a come from behind type of QB.
                It's proven he can't lead an offense when losing in the fourth to a victory.

                Take a look at this, most come from behind 4th quarter comebacks (since 1960)
                You may hurt your neck looking for Rodger's name.



                https://www.pro-football-reference.c...cks_career.htm
                Green Bay is rarely losing games so wouldn't put much stock into that stat. They often blow out teams. They are always a number 1 or 2 seed every year, so how many comebacks can he have? Stafford a great qb too but do not forget he played for the lions and they trailed pretty much every single game they played in for a decade lol.
                Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                • Auto Donk
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                  #9
                  at least three times per game he loses concentration prior to snap, due to being fixated on the back of his hand "gettin' some" sack off the center.....







                  #GayAsFuk
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                  • bigtymer56
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                    Green Bay is rarely losing games so wouldn't put much stock into that stat. They often blow out teams. They are always a number 1 or 2 seed every year, so how many comebacks can he have? Stafford a great qb too but do not forget he played for the lions and they trailed pretty much every single game they played in for a decade lol.
                    Same for Matt Ryan and Drew Brees...playing with weak Ds almost their entire careers, so of course they have alot of opportunities for comebacks.

                    Then you got the Eli Mannings and Flacco's of the world, who do nothing for 50+ mins, while their D's keep them in the game and get to be heroes when they finally put together a drive or make one big throw at the very end of the game.
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                      #11
                      Had to already release one of the Smiths. Man, I wish he would have departed.

                      Maybe it was hard/impossible to trade him.
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • Auto Donk
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                        Had to already release one of the Smiths. Man, I wish he would have departed.

                        Maybe it was hard/impossible to trade him.
                        total cancer in the locker room..... meat gazing at teammates in the shower was always a distraction and divisive to the team.....

                        having a leering aaron rodgers staring at your junk during his long showers, him 3/4 hard as he drops the soap right in front of or beside you, geeze, no wonder the packers can't get it done......
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                        • stevenash
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                          total cancer in the locker room..... meat gazing at teammates in the shower was always a distraction and divisive to the team.....

                          having a leering aaron rodgers staring at your junk during his long showers, him 3/4 hard as he drops the soap right in front of or beside you, geeze, no wonder the packers can't get it done......
                          Wait a minute, I thought Rodgers was fudge packing Jake, from State Farm.
                          That two timing bastard.
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                          • BigJay
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            Rodgers is not a come from behind type of QB.
                            He’s a take it from behind type QB
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                            • stevenash
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigJay
                              He’s a take it from behind type QB
                              This mads me laugh.
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                              • Eddy Munny
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                Every time I see him do a new deal he is the highest paid player on a per year basis. While i look at someone like brady and he takes many pay cuts.

                                Now I am not judging him for taking the money. I am sure he is worth the money and you want to get what your worth. But why is he always complaining about not building the right team around him? If a ring were really that important to him, why do you have to make 50 million a year, why not 30 million and then bring in the right pieces.
                                You're asking him to take one for the team and cut his salary from $50M to $30M? Lol yeah fukking right, nobody in their right mind is making that big of a sacrifice. That's a 40% cut that doesn't even guarantee an outcome... it's a cutthroat business at the end of the day, everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar, the real winners build their equity and get out with their body in working condition to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Build a legacy for your family, not your employer.
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                                • Auto Donk
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigJay
                                  He’s a take it from behind type QB
                                  reminds me of Tiger Woods for some reason....


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                                  • Auto Donk
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                                    #18
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                                    • KVB
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                      at least three times per game he loses concentration prior to snap, due to being fixated on the back of his hand "gettin' some" sack off the center.....







                                      #GayAsFuk
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                                      • KVB
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                        Every time I see him do a new deal he is the highest paid player on a per year basis. While i look at someone like brady and he takes many pay cuts.

                                        Now I am not judging him for taking the money. I am sure he is worth the money and you want to get what your worth. But why is he always complaining about not building the right team around him? If a ring were really that important to him, why do you have to make 50 million a year, why not 30 million and then bring in the right pieces.
                                        Good post. I tend to agree with your question, and don't really want to judge him for taking it either.

                                        I'll reserve that judgement for the agents who have blown the whole payday up over the years.

                                        If Adams and Rogers take all the money, we shouldn't be surprised when Rogers is getting sacked and they are relying on Rogers and Adams to connect every game just to keep up with the opponents scoring.

                                        There's something to be said for creating that situation.
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                                        • Goat Milk
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                          You're asking him to take one for the team and cut his salary from $50M to $30M? Lol yeah fukking right, nobody in their right mind is making that big of a sacrifice. That's a 40% cut that doesn't even guarantee an outcome... it's a cutthroat business at the end of the day, everyone's got their hand in the cookie jar, the real winners build their equity and get out with their body in working condition to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Build a legacy for your family, not your employer.
                                          Tom Brady is a brand. That's all because of his 7 championships. He doesnt get that brand without taking pay cuts, that is for sure.

                                          I dont agree that real winners are the guys who just make the most money. Look at some of the old timers even in the nba like a Bill Russel. He never got paid anything back in that day, yet his name is synonymous with basketball. Thats a real legacy if you ask me.

                                          You can go and accumulate 1 billon dollars if you want, you will never spend that money in a lifetime, your kids will never spend that money. Is there really a difference between making 500 million in your career versus making 700 million? There is not. Rodgers will be dead in 50 years. It goes by fast, and when you die, your money means nothing. Your name means everything. To each their own though.
                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                            Tom Brady is a brand. That's all because of his 7 championships. He doesnt get that brand without taking pay cuts, that is for sure.

                                            I dont agree that real winners are the guys who just make the most money. Look at some of the old timers even in the nba like a Bill Russel. He never got paid anything back in that day, yet his name is synonymous with basketball. Thats a real legacy if you ask me.

                                            You can go and accumulate 1 billon dollars if you want, you will never spend that money in a lifetime, your kids will never spend that money. Is there really a difference between making 500 million in your career versus making 700 million? There is not. Rodgers will be dead in 50 years. It goes by fast, and when you die, your money means nothing. Your name means everything. To each their own though.
                                            You're missing the point. Nobody is pissing away 40% of their salary so the GM's (who wouldn't hesitate to kick you to the curb as soon as you fail to return value in their eyes) have more wiggle room. Tom Brady's 7 rings have a hell of lot more to do with a myriad of factors aside from his personal financial sacrifice, and he never invited that radical of a pay cut to begin with, or else Gisele would've snipped his nuts before the ink dried.

                                            Also, we're not talking about a billion dollars here or anything close to it... Athletes have taxes/expenses that take big bites into their earnings before it hits their bank account. Rodgers' net worth is 200 million, which is a lot of course, but it's not so much that you can afford to go all willy nilly with it if you intend to upkeep a certain lifestyle for yourself and your lineage for years to come.

                                            It's the front office's job to build a team with its given parameters, it's the quarterback's job to win games with his given personnel. The latter is not obligated to donate to the former's cause.
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              #23
                                              Rogers can only get worse not better never forget that

                                              The majority of these guys are just controlled by money now it’s there a God
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                                              • KVB
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                ...Rodgers' net worth is 200 million, which is a lot of course, but it's not so much that you can afford to go all willy nilly with it if you intend to upkeep a certain lifestyle for yourself and your lineage for years to come....
                                                I disagree wholeheartedly. Invested conservatively and properly it's enough to produce a lavish lifestyle and legacy.

                                                But I guess that depends on just what certain lifestyle he lives. Because it would have to be very excessive.

                                                He doesn't do that in the playing years, or he wouldn't have 200 million.

                                                But with that he can get away with a lot in retirement and still never piss it away. A lot.
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Rogers can only get worse not better never forget that

                                                  The majority of these guys are just controlled by money now it’s there a God
                                                  How much $$ can this guy accumulate?

                                                  Guy is way too old for his teammates.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • Art Vandelay
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                                                    #26
                                                    He's only counting $28M toward the cap this season, $31M in 2023. That's about as low as Ball could chop it. Those numbers aren't total team killers if they make the right calls on personnel. You also have to get lucky w a few low-budget FAs like they did last year with Campbell and Douglas to make it work.
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                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                      I disagree wholeheartedly. Invested conservatively and properly it's enough to produce a lavish lifestyle and legacy.

                                                      But I guess that depends on just what certain lifestyle he lives. Because it would have to be very excessive.

                                                      He doesn't do that in the playing years, or he wouldn't have 200 million.

                                                      But with that he can get away with a lot in retirement and still never piss it away. A lot.
                                                      Yeah but when I say "lineage" I'm talking wealth that can trickle down through multiple generations. That's the real legacy. By no means am I saying $200M is scraps, it's an incredible amount of money, but he's been afforded certain opportunities in his line of work and I think it's bizarre that anyone would expect anyone else to consider leaving $20M a year on the table for an end goal that is far from guaranteed.

                                                      Say Rodgers walks away from that kind of loot and gets injured in week 3, can he recoup that money since their Super Bowl hopes are dashed? Say the WR they brought in with the renewed cap space gets injured, same deal? What if the star free-agent offensive lineman they signed with Rodgers' donation under-performs, is their a refund clause? Of course not.

                                                      What if everyone stays healthy and they make it to the NFC title game only to get screwed by horrible officiating that sends them packing? None of these scenarios are far fetched yet Rodgers is somehow incurring all the risk with an enormous hypothetical pay cut, it doesn't make any sense.
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                                                      • Auto Donk
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                                                        #28
                                                        UPDATE FROM THE "PACKERS" Locker Room.....

                                                        Aaron Rodgers, sitting with friends vitturd and jj gold in the team whirlpool/hot tub, was discussing his new contract extension when suddenly a huge blob of semen floated to the frothy surface, causing vitturd to squeal, "WHO FARTED"?????
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                                                        • Auto Donk
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                                          I disagree wholeheartedly. Invested conservatively and properly it's enough to produce a lavish lifestyle and legacy.

                                                          But I guess that depends on just what certain lifestyle he lives. Because it would have to be very excessive.

                                                          He doesn't do that in the playing years, or he wouldn't have 200 million.

                                                          But with that he can get away with a lot in retirement and still never piss it away. A lot.
                                                          I did some research on this, and it appears, depending on the extent of his wardrobe and how much of that gay handle bar mustache grease he needs, he should be able to make it through retirement ok, as this shit doesn't cost all too much:


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                                                          • KVB
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                                                            #30
                                                            Welp, the good news is that Rogers should have no trouble budgeting for that lifestyle ^^^^ with plenty left to pass on.

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                                                            • KVB
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                                                              #31
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                                                              • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                                #32
                                                                Saloon this sicko shit.
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                                                                • thinwhiteduke
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  He does what he's told and is incredibly wealthy for it.

                                                                  So where's the problem?
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                                                                  • jjgold
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    He is the guy that thinks he is smarter than everyone in the room

                                                                    He is not just a dumb jock
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                                                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Rodgers has a ring... And thats all he will ever have.

                                                                      It's common to fizzle out at playoff time... age is a factor
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