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  • Buckandadime
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-21-15
    • 8847

    #36
    IMO its Chamberlain without a doubt over everyone else to ever play..
    That includes Bill Russell who played H2H against Chamberlain for years and while he didn't put up the scoring #'s Wilt did, the teams win % was higher..
    My top 6, for what its worth..
    Wilt
    Bill
    Shaq
    Willis Reed
    Kareem
    Hakeem

    Honorable mention ..
    #34 Embiid
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63165

      #37
      I don't think that was "PRIME" shaq

      that was his rookie year

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      • Chi_archie
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-22-08
        • 63165

        #38
        Originally posted by Buckandadime
        IMO its Chamberlain without a doubt over everyone else to ever play..
        That includes Bill Russell who played H2H against Chamberlain for years and while he didn't put up the scoring #'s Wilt did, the teams win % was higher..
        My top 6, for what its worth..
        Wilt
        Bill
        Shaq
        Willis Reed
        Kareem
        Hakeem

        Honorable mention ..
        #34 Embiid
        add 3 time MVP Moses Malone and David Robinson for a top 8 there
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        • Eddy Munny
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-13-13
          • 15759

          #39
          Could Wilt really bench 550lbs though? That's obscene. I'd have to see it to believe. I'm sure he was hella strong in his prime but 550 sounds more like an urban legend, one that added a few pounds onto it as the years passed.

          If you put five plates on each side of an Olympic bar, that's 495lbs... The bar is already bowing at that point and you're still 55lbs short of his alleged max. Plus if anyone knows anything about the bench press, it's that guys with long arms are at a disadvantage because to complete the movement requires a greater range of motion. That's why many of the bench press freaks have shorter arms and barrel chests. Wilt had the limbs of a praying mantis.
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65301

            #40
            Originally posted by Buckandadime
            IMO its Chamberlain without a doubt over everyone else to ever play..
            That includes Bill Russell who played H2H against Chamberlain for years and while he didn't put up the scoring #'s Wilt did, the teams win % was higher..
            My top 6, for what its worth..
            Wilt
            Bill
            Shaq
            Willis Reed
            Kareem
            Hakeem

            Honorable mention ..
            #34 Embiid
            I see what you did there.
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            • jackpot269
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-24-07
              • 12821

              #41
              Not sure if Wilt could have guarded Shaq or not Wilt was before my time!! Im a big Shaq fan always have been. That being said in his prime I believe 95 somewhere around then, when playing against Houston he could not guard Hakeem Olajuwan very well and didnt push him around at all I lost money on this series because I thought he would push him up and down and all over the court like he did everyone else all year!! I look back at the stats and they do the game no justice Hakeem made him look silly!!
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              • JIBBBY
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-10-09
                • 83693

                #42
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                I don't think that was "PRIME" shaq

                that was his rookie year

                Shaq was very athletic when young.. I think he could match Wilt in that department. People forget how dominate Shaq could be. Wilt was playing against midgets in his day and age also.






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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63165

                  #43
                  the point being, that Shaq must have gained about 50-70 lbs from his rookie year
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63165

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                    the point being, that Shaq must have gained about 50-70 lbs from his rookie year



                    Shaq revealed his weight while winning his four championships and present day:
                    • 2000 Lakers: 345 pounds
                    • 2001 Lakers: 365 pounds
                    • 2002 Lakers: 395 pounds
                    • 2005 Heat: 325 pounds
                    • Current: 375 pounds

                    O’Neal was listed at 315 pounds for all three Los Angeles title seasons but 335 pounds then 340 pounds the following two years. He was listed at 325 pounds throughout his tenure with Miami.

                    maybe closer to 90 lbs

                    listed as 294 at LSU and 301 the next year as a rookie in Orlando
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65301

                      #45
                      ^
                      Shaq thinks Krispy Kreme is a major food group.
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                      • edawg
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-09-11
                        • 2820

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                        Could Wilt really bench 550lbs though? That's obscene. I'd have to see it to believe. I'm sure he was hella strong in his prime but 550 sounds more like an urban legend, one that added a few pounds onto it as the years passed.

                        If you put five plates on each side of an Olympic bar, that's 495lbs... The bar is already bowing at that point and you're still 55lbs short of his alleged max. Plus if anyone knows anything about the bench press, it's that guys with long arms are at a disadvantage because to complete the movement requires a greater range of motion. That's why many of the bench press freaks have shorter arms and barrel chests. Wilt had the limbs of a praying mantis.
                        Complete BS doubt he could do 405. At his height he would need to be over 400lbs in bodyweight minimum to be an effective bencher. He is a big strong guy and a great athlete and really don't understand his need to lie but it is what it is which is complete BS.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82526

                          #47
                          Here is my response: If Wilt had the same trainers and equipment Shaq had at his prime with Lakers he could have guarded him.

                          You can't compare someone from an era where they didn't have trainers or equipment to train with.

                          This is the same reason Usain Bolt is faster than Jesse Owens. They trained with different trainers or had different equipment. Even the shoes and turf can't be compared.

                          No one knows if Usain Bolt could beat Jesse Owens if he wore the same shoes and run on the same turf like he Owens did.
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                          • Doublethink
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 05-21-21
                            • 415

                            #48
                            Amazing Wilt Chamberlain Story - What A Beast. Wilt helping out two struggling deliverymen. Unreal!
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                            • Doublethink
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                              • 05-21-21
                              • 415

                              #49
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83693

                                #50
                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/05/13...-lakers-title/

                                Shaq revealed his weight while winning his four championships and present day:
                                • 2000 Lakers: 345 pounds
                                • 2001 Lakers: 365 pounds
                                • 2002 Lakers: 395 pounds
                                • 2005 Heat: 325 pounds
                                • Current: 375 pounds

                                O’Neal was listed at 315 pounds for all three Los Angeles title seasons but 335 pounds then 340 pounds the following two years. He was listed at 325 pounds throughout his tenure with Miami.

                                maybe closer to 90 lbs

                                listed as 294 at LSU and 301 the next year as a rookie in Orlando
                                Shaq got hungry and content after winning championships and liked that fried chicken and all you can eat buffets. Shit happens.

                                Look and Lamar Odom in a different view as he was hooked on candy every day and his diet was horrific and he was thin his entire NBA career. If he didn't smoke crack every day after practice and after games he would have gained weight also.

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                                • Brandt Moat
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-26-21
                                  • 885

                                  #51
                                  Glad to see Malone in the conversation! He was Great. Period
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  add 3 time MVP Moses Malone and David Robinson for a top 8 there
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65301

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Brandt Moat
                                    Glad to see Malone in the conversation! He was Great. Period
                                    Moses Malone was a top ten all time center.
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                                    • Chi_archie
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-22-08
                                      • 63165

                                      #53
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                                      • eidolon
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-02-08
                                        • 9531

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Brandt Moat
                                        Shot Gun nose Ewing has no business in the picture! That guy cost me $660. It was my last chance to put some furniture in my new apartment. My girlfriend at the time(future wife), stayed with me for 20+ years of gambling,drinking and partying. We started calling him Shot Gun nose that game sitting on milk crates.lol

                                        Wilt was a better basketball player. Wilt laid down more Pipe then Shaq. He fooked about every ho around the towns he was in. Dude is a azz getn legend. Just way better then Shaq at creating a way to make a basket. Shaq had no real shooting ability. He had that lil bunny hook from 2 feet. Shaq was stronger! You can tell me how much somebody benches til the cows come home. You utilize the bench strength in sports when you are getting some one off of you, because they put you on your back. It is and never will be a good measuring stick for the power you bring to your sport. I have competed against big men my whole life. Not at Bball. Power comes from your core. Shaq's leg strength and core would move a house. If Shaq wanted the rebound it was his. If Shaq wanted to stuff the ball, your head or anything, it was through the hoop. Down low I would take Shaq. Every where else, I would take Wilt. Wilt was a better athlete and kept his stamina up with more minutes and fookn. How can't ya like the guy!
                                        Fked a lot of dudes to
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                                        • eidolon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-02-08
                                          • 9531

                                          #55
                                          Wilt couldn't even ragdoll Russell. And people are out here saying he would toss Shaq around? get real.
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                                          • Brandt Moat
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-26-21
                                            • 885

                                            #56
                                            That's a busy dude.
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                                            • eidolon
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-02-08
                                              • 9531

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by edawg
                                              Complete BS doubt he could do 405. At his height he would need to be over 400lbs in bodyweight minimum to be an effective bencher. He is a big strong guy and a great athlete and really don't understand his need to lie but it is what it is which is complete BS.
                                              Everything that ever came out of Wilt's mouth was a lie
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                                              • thomorino
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 06-01-17
                                                • 45842

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                IMO its Chamberlain without a doubt over everyone else to ever play..
                                                That includes Bill Russell who played H2H against Chamberlain for years and while he didn't put up the scoring #'s Wilt did, the teams win % was higher..
                                                My top 6, for what its worth..
                                                Wilt
                                                Bill
                                                Shaq
                                                Willis Reed
                                                Kareem
                                                Hakeem

                                                Honorable mention ..
                                                #34 Embiid
                                                Willis Reed is not a top 10 center you moron
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 83693

                                                  #59
                                                  Hakeem the Dream was legit. Little undersized but man he had the footwork and moves down low. A great shot and fade away. He schooled Shaq and made him cry in the playoffs.
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                                                  • eidolon
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-02-08
                                                    • 9531

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    Hakeem the Dream was legit. Little undersized but man he had the footwork and moves down low. A great shot and fade away. He schooled Shaq and made him cry in the playoffs.
                                                    Agree.
                                                    Wilt is the most dominate player to play the game, but if I was going to start a team and needed a center, I would go with Hakeem Olajuwon. The guy was great at EVERYTHING.
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                                                    • shadymcgrady
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-27-12
                                                      • 10036

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by edawg
                                                      Complete BS doubt he could do 405. At his height he would need to be over 400lbs in bodyweight minimum to be an effective bencher. He is a big strong guy and a great athlete and really don't understand his need to lie but it is what it is which is complete BS.
                                                      It's not impossible just highly unlikely. 405 is 4 plates and yes it bends the bar but a person could retain the strength while shedding the bulk that comes with that strength.

                                                      I kept both muscle and fat off when I played regularly at least 3 times a week but gained most of the bulk from weights after I cutback on ball. Same strength and weight lifting program all throughout, it probably also helped that I was an undergrad when I had the time to play often but wilt was a pro athlete
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                                                      • Wrongside
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                                                        • 09-26-15
                                                        • 3579

                                                        #62
                                                        My Mom could gave guarded Shaq.
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                                                        • marcoloco
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                                                          • 07-05-10
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                                                          #63
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                                                          • johnnyvegas13
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                                                            • 05-21-15
                                                            • 27861

                                                            #64
                                                            Never watched wilt and really just watched shaq as a kid
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                                                            • Eddy Munny
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                                                              • 08-13-13
                                                              • 15759

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                              Never watched wilt and really just watched shaq as a kid
                                                              Johnny how much you bench?
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                                                              • johnnyvegas13
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                                                                • 05-21-15
                                                                • 27861

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                                Johnny how much you bench?
                                                                Not a lot eddy

                                                                but I can kayak a long distance
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                                                                • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                                  • 05-15-10
                                                                  • 7719

                                                                  #67
                                                                  If you believe Wilt benched 550, then you believe he banged 20,000 chicks; complete BS.
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                                                                  • Eddy Munny
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-13-13
                                                                    • 15759

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                                    Not a lot eddy

                                                                    but I can kayak a long distance
                                                                    Yeah you showed us the clip once.

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                                                                    • Eddy Munny
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                                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                                      • 15759

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                      If you believe Wilt benched 550, then you believe he banged 20,000 chicks; complete BS.
                                                                      Only Brasky can bench 550 and bang 20K... Simultaneously in some cases.

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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83693

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                        If you believe Wilt benched 550, then you believe he banged 20,000 chicks; complete BS.
                                                                        Not a chance Wilt benched over 275 pounds ever in his life with those long arms if I had to guess.

                                                                        Banging and or raping white chicks I don't know how many he did but probably alot. Now that I can believe.
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