40 years ago today- After a 68-62 home loss to LSU, Mississippi State athletic director Charlie Carr met with UNC asst basketball coach Roy Williams and offered him the job left open by Bob Boyd.
Williams declined the job and took the Kansas job 2 years later.
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Four33
SBR Sharp
06-13-19
437
#3
None live in tx offshore for me.
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thetrinity
SBR Posting Legend
01-25-11
22430
#4
They all suck equally
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KS1986
SBR Wise Guy
05-20-17
558
#5
MGM
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Waterstpub87
SBR MVP
09-09-09
4102
#6
Wynnbet. Early lines, sometimes lots of value.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#7
Anyone play at westgate?
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Mugsy777
SBR Sharp
08-26-20
429
#8
Please Coach , give me a break !! Fanduel DOES NOT EVEN PUT UP SECOND HALF LINES ON MANY NCAA BASKETBALL GAMES!! No excuses accepted ! Wagerstreet software worth 10 million
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HedgeHog
SBR Posting Legend
09-11-07
10128
#9
Low Vig. BOL book with low juice and high limits. Can't find anything like that in the shitty US market.
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Administrator
06-10-10
60816
#10
Prob lean to Draftkings out of US licensed so far.
part of that is based on their motorsport coverage though.
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flyingillini
SBR Aristocracy
12-06-06
41219
#11
I am glad I don’t have to make that choice. None of them compare to Pinnacle or Marathon Bet.
המוסד
המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים
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stevex
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-10
5122
#12
Heritage.
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Mike Huntertz
SBR Posting Legend
08-19-09
11205
#13
Originally posted by flyingillini
I am glad I don’t have to make that choice. None of them compare to Pinnacle or Marathon Bet.
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Smokey McPot
SBR High Roller
07-18-21
190
#14
Circa
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d2bets
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-10-05
39990
#15
Believe it or not Caesars, although Fanduel is close. Used to be DK. Limits tend to suck everywhere else.
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stake1
SBR Posting Legend
12-19-18
18116
#16
agree with Stevex. right now for me: Heritage Sports
Aside from the fact they always pay you. their cash back program is solid for volume players. free contests: like the squares last weekend, superbowl sqaures next weekend and their March Madness contest coming soon, which is pretty cool
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#17
Fandual has solid limits even for sharps
Caesars ok
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d2bets
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08-10-05
39990
#18
Originally posted by jjgold
Fandual has solid limits even for sharps
Caesars ok
Yeah, sort of, it's complicated.
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dark star
SBR MVP
01-04-09
3900
#19
Superbook seems pretty solid....Fandual for props,Wynn for straight bets& ML. No issues here with MGM as well
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TommieGunshot
SBR MVP
03-27-12
1586
#20
Any place where bets go for approval and it is common for them to be rejected and have the line move is disqualified from any consideration. So definitely no to Fanduel.
Right now I would say Caesars, because they just let me back with a new account and it hasn't been flagged yet, so everything is going through multiple times without moving the number.
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TommieGunshot
SBR MVP
03-27-12
1586
#21
Originally posted by d2bets
Believe it or not Caesars, although Fanduel is close. Used to be DK. Limits tend to suck everywhere else.
Circa?
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Frank
SBR Wise Guy
10-13-07
918
#22
Circa
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Frank
SBR Wise Guy
10-13-07
918
#23
Originally posted by jjgold
Anyone play at westgate?
Good book but they are afraid of college basketball.
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TommieGunshot
SBR MVP
03-27-12
1586
#24
Originally posted by Frank
Good book but they are afraid of college basketball.
Why do you think this? Is it just because of low limits? Wait a few minutes, give them a chance to change the lines (or not), then bet it again. Is that really being afraid? I always thought that was bookmaking? It's the places that never let a player bet a line again (even if I wait an hour) that are tacky. Or worse, reject bets.
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d2bets
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08-10-05
39990
#25
Originally posted by TommieGunshot
Circa?
Unfortunately I don't have access there yet. Hopefully they're coming to IL.
I'm curious what other lesser-known books out there people like. I know MGM is shyte, but what about Ballys or Unibet or Wynnbet or...?
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Waterstpub87
SBR MVP
09-09-09
4102
#26
Originally posted by d2bets
Unfortunately I don't have access there yet. Hopefully they're coming to IL.
I'm curious what other lesser-known books out there people like. I know MGM is shyte, but what about Ballys or Unibet or Wynnbet or...?
Unibet, Twinspires, and Betrivers/Play sugar house are Kambi sports I believe. Open lines pretty late, a -109/-112 type book. Not good. Deposited in Unibet, got the risk free bet, and bailed. I deposited in both playsugarhouse and Unibet, then realized they had the same exact lines. Sugarhouse requires a 1x roll, so I cashed out of Unibet pretty immediately after taking the risk free bet.
I actually like BetMGM. Occasionally can get pretty good deals there.
Hopefully Bill 688 Passes in NC and I will respond here.
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Frank
SBR Wise Guy
10-13-07
918
#28
Originally posted by TommieGunshot
Why do you think this? Is it just because of low limits? Wait a few minutes, give them a chance to change the lines (or not), then bet it again. Is that really being afraid? I always thought that was bookmaking? It's the places that never let a player bet a line again (even if I wait an hour) that are tacky. Or worse, reject bets.
If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.
That is what bookmaking is.
Cutting limits is not bookmaking.
Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.
That's laziness.
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d2bets
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#29
Originally posted by Waterstpub87
Unibet, Twinspires, and Betrivers/Play sugar house are Kambi sports I believe. Open lines pretty late, a -109/-112 type book. Not good. Deposited in Unibet, got the risk free bet, and bailed. I deposited in both playsugarhouse and Unibet, then realized they had the same exact lines. Sugarhouse requires a 1x roll, so I cashed out of Unibet pretty immediately after taking the risk free bet.
I actually like BetMGM. Occasionally can get pretty good deals there.
I know. Kambi is so easy to beat. But they're books tend to limit hard. I'm still sort of alive at Barstool, but I expect it to end someday. Just wondering if Unibet's limits are better.
From everything I've read, MGM limits fast and hard. But I'll certainly try it out. Supposed to be in IL March 5. I'll try out every book that comes online. Why the hell not. Definitely in need of some good new onshore outs.
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DontTailMe
SBR MVP
03-24-19
2897
#30
Originally posted by Frank
If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.
That is what bookmaking is.
Cutting limits is not bookmaking.
Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.
That's laziness.
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d2bets
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08-10-05
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#31
Originally posted by Frank
If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.
That is what bookmaking is.
Cutting limits is not bookmaking.
Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.
That's laziness.
Yes, and virtually every US-based book is lazy. They are marketing companies, not bookmakers. Has its pros and cons.
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turbobets
SBR Wise Guy
01-13-06
995
#32
Originally posted by jjgold
Fandual has solid limits even for sharps
Caesars ok
I've heard similar that even a limited fanduel account is worth keeping funded but I think more value can be found at the other shops. There is money to be made at all of them with the crazy sign up bonuses.
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Waterstpub87
SBR MVP
09-09-09
4102
#33
Originally posted by d2bets
I know. Kambi is so easy to beat. But they're books tend to limit hard. I'm still sort of alive at Barstool, but I expect it to end someday. Just wondering if Unibet's limits are better.
From everything I've read, MGM limits fast and hard. But I'll certainly try it out. Supposed to be in IL March 5. I'll try out every book that comes online. Why the hell not. Definitely in need of some good new onshore outs.
Didn't know Barstool was a kambi. Its odd, I always thought they posted lines quicker than Unibet/the others. Sometimes you can figure it out, and click inspect element, the lines are in a div with Kambi in the name. Not on Barstool or BetRivers.
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Crusherrr
SBR MVP
06-27-16
3646
#34
Sugarhouse is soooo slow to move lines. These legal books are anything but sharp.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#35
Originally posted by Frank
If your customers are sharp, you use that to your advantage by moving off their action, whether slightly or aggressively.
That is what bookmaking is.
Cutting limits is not bookmaking.
Cutting limits is a way of saying we have no confidence in either our numbers or how to handle sharper action appropriately and we feel no need to try and improve on that.
That's laziness.
only fandual and Circa does that meaning more booking than most usa places