EURO CUP Discussion: France +450 to win?

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  • Goat Milk
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    #36
    Originally posted by thomorino
    No team should be less than 5-1 to win the euros, this tournament is harder to win than the World Cup and France is very good but not an elite team.
    Lol. France is literally the best team on paper in the competition. It's soccer so anyone can win in a tournament style 1 game, but your post makes no sense. France is not an elite team, but they won the World Cup?

    this guy will literally argue with anything i post.
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    • pavyracer
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      #37
      Originally posted by Goat Milk
      Lol. France is literally the best team on paper in the competition. It's soccer so anyone can win in a tournament style 1 game, but your post makes no sense. France is not an elite team, but they won the World Cup?

      this guy will literally argue with anything i post.
      You are being given advice from someone who lost 40 units on last Women's world cup.
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      • thomorino
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        #38
        Originally posted by Goat Milk
        Lol. France is literally the best team on paper in the competition. It's soccer so anyone can win in a tournament style 1 game, but your post makes no sense. France is not an elite team, but they won the World Cup?

        this guy will literally argue with anything i post.
        They beat Croatia to win the World Cup, they didn’t face any of the top teams and their path was very easy. +450 is not a good price.
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        • thomorino
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          #39
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          You are being given advice from someone who lost 40 units on last Women's world cup.
          Wrong, you are a dumb shit.
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          • od120731
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            #40
            I mean this early it's just a stab in the dark
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            • Goat Milk
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              #41
              Originally posted by thomorino
              They beat Croatia to win the World Cup, they didn’t face any of the top teams and their path was very easy. +450 is not a good price.
              They beat Argentina and Belgium, literally two powerhouse teams. Your post makes no sense.
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              • thomorino
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                #42
                Originally posted by Goat Milk
                They beat Argentina and Belgium, literally two powerhouse teams. Your post makes no sense.
                You need to buy a tv, Argentina was complete garbage at the World Cup in 2016. Belgium was a solid team but not elite.

                You will get a far better return than +450 if you just bet a France to win in regulation and rollover your winnings if they advance starting in knockout stages.
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                • Goat Milk
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by thomorino
                  You need to buy a tv, Argentina was complete garbage at the World Cup in 2016. Belgium was a solid team but not elite.

                  You will get a far better return than +450 if you just bet a France to win in regulation and rollover your winnings if they advance starting in knockout stages.
                  So france wasn't eliite, Argentina wasn't elite, Belgium wasn't elite, Croatia wasn't elite. Who were the elite teams in the World Cup, and how far did they go?
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                    So france wasn't eliite, Argentina wasn't elite, Belgium wasn't elite, Croatia wasn't elite. Who were the elite teams in the World Cup, and how far did they go?
                    Lol. Belgium was definitely elite. They knocked out the co favorites Brazil.
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                    • Ryermkd
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by thomorino
                      You need to buy a tv, Argentina was complete garbage at the World Cup in 2016. Belgium was a solid team but not elite.

                      You will get a far better return than +450 if you just bet a France to win in regulation and rollover your winnings if they advance starting in knockout stages.
                      Can't believe I'm agreeing with Moroni. Argentina has been a major sh1thole for as long as I can remember. I think your words against Belgium are a little harsh though; possibly one of the best teams in the world for their population size.

                      I almost cried watching this, felt really sick. Serbia isn't Brazil though...

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                      • thomorino
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        Lol. Belgium was definitely elite. They knocked out the co favorites Brazil.
                        Belgium was good, they aren’t elite.

                        Belgium has won nothing in international play with this core, nothing.
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                        • thomorino
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Goat Milk
                          So france wasn't eliite, Argentina wasn't elite, Belgium wasn't elite, Croatia wasn't elite. Who were the elite teams in the World Cup, and how far did they go?
                          Goat that’s my point, the tournament is wide open because their aren’t any teams which have shown that they are elite, it’s a deep field but it’s not too heavy, which is why I don’t see +450 on any team as having value.
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                          • thomorino
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ryermkd
                            Can't believe I'm agreeing with Moroni. Argentina has been a major sh1thole for as long as I can remember. I think your words against Belgium are a little harsh though; possibly one of the best teams in the world for their population size.

                            I almost cried watching this, felt really sick. Serbia isn't Brazil though...

                            You are a dumb shit.
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                            • thomorino
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                              Lol. Belgium was definitely elite. They knocked out the co favorites Brazil.
                              Brazil hasn’t been impressive at the World Cup for a long time, they got obliterated by Germany in 2012.

                              Again, Belgium has never won anything with this core of players, they are not elite. Good but not elite.
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                              • bruceBRUCEbruce
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                                • 06-20-09
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                                #50
                                england's midfield is weak, especially if Henderson isn't 100%.
                                I'm not too keen on their defense either.
                                plus you know they love to choke in these big spots

                                Italy is nicely priced at 8-1, in a weak group, playing all their group games in Rome, so they should certainly advance and then anything can happen.
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                                • thomorino
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
                                  england's midfield is weak, especially if Henderson isn't 100%.
                                  I'm not too keen on their defense either.
                                  plus you know they love to choke in these big spots

                                  Italy is nicely priced at 8-1, in a weak group, playing all their group games in Rome, so they should certainly advance and then anything can happen.
                                  Yeah, Italy’s group is weak, Portugal got screwed being with France and Germany.
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                                  • pavyracer
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by thomorino
                                    Wrong, you are a dumb shit.



                                    -19.7 units

                                    Just horrible luck between posts and very questionable VAR reviews
                                    He lost 20 units due to horrible luck between goal posts and VAR. So the goalies of the other teams he bet and the refs conspired to make him lose his bets.




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                                    • Allure
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                                      #53
                                      Lol Italy will not win against Turkey and Switzerland.

                                      Italy qualified from a group that was utter garbage. Fukking Finland was 2nd in that group, that tells a lot. As always their defense is their strong point the rest is nothing spectacular.
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                                      • thomorino
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer





                                        He lost 20 units due to horrible luck between goal posts and VAR. So the goalies of the other teams he bet and the refs conspired to make him lose his bets.




                                        You are a dumb shit
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                                        • TheMetsSuck
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                                          #55
                                          Love group F to win it all at +145
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                                          • Goat Milk
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            Goat that’s my point, the tournament is wide open because their aren’t any teams which have shown that they are elite, it’s a deep field but it’s not too heavy, which is why I don’t see +450 on any team as having value.
                                            I don't see it that way. I see clear class with France and Belgium and no one else has that type of talent.

                                            All the other teams like Spain and Portugal and Germany and Italy and Croatia etc are all clumped into one group.

                                            In soccer anything can happen, the best team on paper doesn't always win, but more often than not, on the international stage, it does.

                                            When the world thought Brazil would beat Germany, I called them getting slapped. Germany was stacked top to bottom.

                                            When the world thought Brazil would beat the Dutch, I was huge on the Netherlands. I made more money on that game than I've ever made on a soccer match. The Dutch were stacked top to bottom.

                                            I realize anything can happen but I just gotta go by what I see on the roster.

                                            Let's think about the last few world cup champs:

                                            France -- best team in the tournamnet on paper.
                                            Germany -- best team on paper.
                                            Spain -- best team on paper.Good luck.
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                                            • Ryermkd
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                              I don't see it that way. I see clear class with France and Belgium and no one else has that type of talent.

                                              All the other teams like Spain and Portugal and Germany and Italy and Croatia etc are all clumped into one group.

                                              In soccer anything can happen, the best team on paper doesn't always win, but more often than not, on the international stage, it does.

                                              When the world thought Brazil would beat Germany, I called them getting slapped. Germany was stacked top to bottom.

                                              When the world thought Brazil would beat the Dutch, I was huge on the Netherlands. I made more money on that game than I've ever made on a soccer match. The Dutch were stacked top to bottom.

                                              I realize anything can happen but I just gotta go by what I see on the roster.

                                              Let's think about the last few world cup champs:

                                              France -- best team in the tournamnet on paper.
                                              Germany -- best team on paper.
                                              Spain -- best team on paper.Good luck.
                                              I hate kooks like you that think only 2 teams are capable. There's at least 5 teams that have a shot...

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                                              • leovegas
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                                                #58
                                                How about 9.30 for Italy? Cakewalk draw
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                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Ryermkd
                                                  I hate kooks like you that think only 2 teams are capable. There's at least 5 teams that have a shot...

                                                  Everyone has a shot pal, that's why it's a tournament. The best team doesn't always win. I got good odds on a Belgium France finals matchup at +1600. Can I take a +1600 bet in peace on this site or I got to get shit on for that too?
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                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Allure
                                                    Lol Italy will not win against Turkey and Switzerland.

                                                    Italy qualified from a group that was utter garbage. Fukking Finland was 2nd in that group, that tells a lot. As always their defense is their strong point the rest is nothing spectacular.
                                                    I guess you don't like the Italian team. Swiss and turkey are not easy games. Italy will get 4 points at least in those two and win the other game and win the group. They have a nice mix on this team and it's not all about the defense like usual . Italy will make noise in the tourney.
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                                                    • stepaside777
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                      I guess you don't like the Italian team. Swiss and turkey are not easy games. Italy will get 4 points at least in those two and win the other game and win the group. They have a nice mix on this team and it's not all about the defense like usual . Italy will make noise in the tourney.
                                                      Italy is not that great, turkey has decent players.

                                                      Portugal to win it all, second best after france on paper.
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                                                      • thomorino
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by stepaside777
                                                        Italy is not that great, turkey has decent players.

                                                        Portugal to win it all, second best after france on paper.
                                                        Portugal has talent but they are an older team, Pepe is 38, renaldo 35, it’s hard to see a team whose best player is 35 winning the tournament.
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                                                        • asiagambler
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                                                          #63
                                                          Need Turkey/Draw in first game here

                                                          I think Italy defense is not as strong this time around
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                                                          • Enkhbat
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                                                            #64
                                                            Italy vs turkey very good matchup i think over here. I like germany to win, you will get a solid opportunity to hedge later on
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                                                            • Allure
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                              I guess you don't like the Italian team. Swiss and turkey are not easy games. Italy will get 4 points at least in those two and win the other game and win the group. They have a nice mix on this team and it's not all about the defense like usual . Italy will make noise in the tourney.
                                                              Sure Italy has a great team but their results so far need to be taken with caution. They have faced garbage teams in both the EC qualification and also now in the WC qualification. Of course still impressive for them to win all games but if your strongest opponent is Finland, well how much does that mean.

                                                              And again I'm not saying Italy can't win against Turkey or Switzerland, but at the current odds it simply has zero value. This is the best generation Turkey has ever had. They have achieved good results in tourneys with far worse teams. They had the highly favored France team on the ropes in both EC qualification group matches, won one and drew the other one, which they also could have won.
                                                              This Turkey team has a very decent team. The most important matchup will be Turkeys wingers vs Italys backs.

                                                              I think the full backs are Italys weak point. Not having Veratti is also good for Turkey. I think this Turkey in general is underrated since noone cares about Turkey but so did noone care about Greece when they won it all with absolute garbage, shit players.

                                                              Of course Italy may win today - although I think they won't and if so just barely - but I'd never touch Italy vs Turkey at -200 or even worse. Italy and Turkey should advance in any case. So if Turkey loses today I personally will pound them vs Switzerland and Wales.
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                                                              • Allure
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                                Need Turkey/Draw in first game here

                                                                I think Italy defense is not as strong this time around
                                                                The center backs are the best in the tourney. Doesn't get better than Bonucci and Chiellini as a duo. Their full backs however are quite average. But there are few world-class full backs in general in today's football/soccer.
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                                                                • Darkside Magick
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  DRAW +305 - Italy vs Turkey
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                                                                  • Ryermkd
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                    DRAW +305 - Italy vs Turkey
                                                                    The only play really, most overrated team in Europe. Have the gall to call themselves the "Brazilians of Europe"

                                                                    Z I V E L A

                                                                    J U G O S L A V I J A

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                                                                    • Goat Milk
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      TEAM TOP GOALSCORER FOR TOURNAMENT

                                                                      LUKAKU -120

                                                                      I think over the course of the entire tournament, Lukaku should be the main star for Belgium here. I don't see anyone taking more shots than him on Belgium. These are pretty good odds. Game to game it's tough to pick who's gonna score but when you have a larger sample size, you go with the best striker on the team. I think when healthy Hazard is the best and most dynamic player, like he was at the world cup, but he's a little banged up right now and will have to work himself into shape during the tournament.
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                                                                      • Goat Milk
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT - MBAPPE +800

                                                                        See good value here for a team I project to go very far or all the way.
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