John Rahm tested positive for COVID-19 with 6 shot lead.

**milwaukee mike** · 06-09-21, 02:56 PM

lies we were told

"asymptomatic carriers spread disease" (hasn't happened once anywhere in the world)
"kids will go to school, then bring the virus home and kill granny" (hasn't happened once anywhere in the world)
"natural immunity isn't enough, gotta get the jab"...

here is a nice new study proving that last one is a total lie, and there is NO NEED for anyone that has had covid to take the jab or worry about anything

Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2.full

Background The purpose of this study was to evaluate the necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2. Methods Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any subject who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at least 42 days earlier was considered previously infected. One was considered vaccinated 14 days after receipt of the second dose of a SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection over the next five months, among previously infected subjects who received the vaccine, was compared with those of previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated, previously uninfected subjects who received the vaccine, and previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Results Among the 52238 included employees, 1359 (53%) of 2579 previously infected subjects remained unvaccinated, compared with 22777 (41%) of 49659 not previously infected. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity). Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before. Summary Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine. ### Competing Interest Statement The authors have declared no competing interest. ### Funding Statement There was no funding for this study. ### Author Declarations I confirm all relevant ethical guidelines have been followed, and any necessary IRB and/or ethics committee approvals have been obtained. Yes The details of the IRB/oversight body that provided approval or exemption for the research described are given below: The study was approved by the Cleveland Clinic Institutional Review Board. A waiver of informed consent and waiver of HIPAA authorization were approved to allow access to personal health information by the research team, with the understanding that sharing or releasing identifiable data to anyone other than the study team was not permitted without additional IRB approval. All necessary patient/participant consent has been obtained and the appropriate institutional forms have been archived. Yes I understand that all clinical trials and any other prospective interventional studies must be registered with an ICMJE-approved registry, such as ClinicalTrials.gov. I confirm that any such study reported in the manuscript has been registered and the trial registration ID is provided (note: if posting a prospective study registered retrospectively, please provide a statement in the trial ID field explaining why the study was not registered in advance). Yes I have followed all appropriate research reporting guidelines and uploaded the relevant EQUATOR Network research reporting checklist(s) and other pertinent material as supplementary files, if applicable. Yes De-identified subject-level data and code to reproduce the results are available on a public data repository.

"COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine." so that means at least 15 months of immunity since many people had covid 10 months before the study started

**KVB** · 06-09-21, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by stake1

They can run those pcr cycles at higher levels and generate any result they want.
Shocked that he is not presently in the Icu or at least on oxygen

LMAO last year when swabbed fruits and veggies were coming back positive.

**BuckyOne** · 06-09-21, 10:45 PM

John Rahm fukked himself out of a million bucks. Too bad! Who cares?

America is just too soft. Get a shot or you are fired / fukk em! Go live in India!

**Unrivaled** · 06-09-21, 10:47 PM

Jon Rahm probably got more sick from his first shot than he did from Covid...

**lonegambler23** · 06-09-21, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

Jon Rahm probably got more sick from his first shot than he did from Covid...

he chose not to get the vaccine

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-09-21, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

Maybe it's just because I'm in Canada and don't know anyone who has gotten sick even from it.
I'm sorry to hear.

Consider yourself very blessed...

**Unrivaled** · 06-10-21, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

he chose not to get the vaccine

Yes but the rules are stupid. There are risks with vaccines and with Covid.

Everyone has had a chance to get vaccinated in the States. There is no need to keep virtue signalling and pretending we are protecting people outside social distanced playing golf.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-10-21, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

So basically no Country had proper leadership
The virus buried almost every Country
Mac your a dumb fuk

I named 5 countries that were not buried. I can list a dozen more that had very few issues with Covid. Dumb countries and countries with poor leadership got buried, like the US. People holed up in their homes for over a damn year, when this could have been contained in a few weeks.

**Unrivaled** · 06-10-21, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I named 5 countries that were not buried. I can list a dozen more that had very few issues with Covid. Dumb countries and countries with poor leadership got buried, like the US. People holed up in their homes for over a damn year, when this could have been contained in a few weeks.

Contained in a few weeks? How?

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-10-21, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

Contained in a few weeks? How?

3 week Nationwide shutdown = Open shit back up and go back to living your life. Keep the borders locked down until the vaccine was distributed. Anyone that had covid or was a carrier would have gotten over it within 3 weeks. That's how a lot of countries did it with HUGE success.

**Unrivaled** · 06-10-21, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

3 week Nationwide shutdown = Open shit back up and go back to living your life. Keep the borders locked down until the vaccine was distributed. Anyone that had covid or was a carrier would have gotten over it within 3 weeks. That's how a lot of countries did it with HUGE success.

Well I can tell you we shut down in Canada for months at a time (3 separate occasions).

Cases went down but as soon as we opened anything they went back up. We aren't island countries, there was no way to control this.

**Unrivaled** · 06-10-21, 12:25 AM

And to add to my comment in my province we haven't been legally allowed to visit friends or family since late November. They initially told us at least 3 weeks which of course turned into 24+ weeks with them allowing people to visit as of this week again.

The restrictions are absolutely asinine. There is nothing we can do besides hold China accountable.

**TheMetsSuck** · 06-10-21, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

3 week Nationwide shutdown = Open shit back up and go back to living your life. Keep the borders locked down until the vaccine was distributed. Anyone that had covid or was a carrier would have gotten over it within 3 weeks. That's how a lot of countries did it with HUGE success.

How dumb are you?

**BuckyOne** · 06-10-21, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

And to add to my comment in my province we haven't been legally allowed to visit friends or family since late November. They initially told us at least 3 weeks which of course turned into 24+ weeks with them allowing people to visit as of this week again.

The restrictions are absolutely asinine. There is nothing we can do besides hold China accountable.

Amazing that the Department of Health quotes China’s deaths due to Corona at 4000.

Pretty vague on precisely how it started in China. Was it leaked from a lab? Wuhan fish market? Was it an accident or on purpose and a form of biological warfare?

**stake1** · 06-10-21, 10:24 AM

Rahm on a vent yet?

**jtoler** · 06-10-21, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by stake1

Rahm on a vent yet?

nah he’s still alive

**KVB** · 06-10-21, 12:27 PM

lol this thread still going strong.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-10-21, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Unrivaled

Well I can tell you we shut down in Canada for months at a time (3 separate occasions).Cases went down but as soon as we opened anything they went back up. We aren't island countries, there was no way to control this.

Sorry but many Canadians refused to shut down. I have several friends that partied every week of the pandemic. Underground bars everywhere. If people do not participate fully, you will never eradicate a pandemic. People have to be smart and sacrifice for just a few weeks in order to open up fully later. Fortunately, the vaccines are working and it's a moot point until the next weird shit comes up.

and no way was this virus from bats or animals. This was man made in a lab, most likely in the US. Explain how in the hell did it killed more Hispanic and black people??? Someone was specifically targeting certain DNAs. Great biowarfare weapon.

**BuckyOne** · 06-10-21, 07:03 PM

Canada must have done something right. USA has had 34 million total cases. Canada a million or so.

Let's ask Rahm if he wishes he would have got a shot now? Did his fiasco change anything? Did PGA golfers go out and get a shot?

I am hoping for another scenario just like this / wish every golf tournament would have 4 to 5 dq's. NFL & professional players getting cut for testing positive because of no shot would be nice.

People that make this much money should not be this lazy and stupid! Why would anyone want to buy a ticket to a sporting event 6 months ahead of time and then the day of the event find out three starters tested positive?

**d2bets** · 06-10-21, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Sorry but many Canadians refused to shut down. I have several friends that partied every week of the pandemic. Underground bars everywhere. If people do not participate fully, you will never eradicate a pandemic. People have to be smart and sacrifice for just a few weeks in order to open up fully later. Fortunately, the vaccines are working and it's a moot point until the next weird shit comes up.

and no way was this virus from bats or animals. This was man made in a lab, most likely in the US. Explain how in the hell did it killed more Hispanic and black people??? Someone was specifically targeting certain DNAs. Great biowarfare weapon.

There are plenty of viable explanations for that.
- poorer access to healthcare
- live in more densely populated areas
- more prevalence of comorbidities like obesity and diabetes and asthma, etc.

I think if you controlled out those types of factors, it did not kill more blacks and hispanics based on DNA. It's based on societal and health factors.

**d2bets** · 06-10-21, 09:18 PM

If nothing else, the chart proves that the vaccine prevents/minimizes deaths. It's the middle-age folks that are dying from covid now, not the elderly, because the elderly have mostly all gotten the jab.

**stake1** · 06-10-21, 09:25 PM

Poor Rahm, test positive and able to run 5 miles/day and simulate 36 holes
Turn those pcr’s back on, turn them up

**dlowilly** · 06-10-21, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Sorry but many Canadians refused to shut down. I have several friends that partied every week of the pandemic. Underground bars everywhere. If people do not participate fully, you will never eradicate a pandemic. People have to be smart and sacrifice for just a few weeks in order to open up fully later. Fortunately, the vaccines are working and it's a moot point until the next weird shit comes up.

and no way was this virus from bats or animals. This was man made in a lab, most likely in the US. Explain how in the hell did it killed more Hispanic and black people??? Someone was specifically targeting certain DNAs. Great biowarfare weapon.

The same way there is a higher rate of STDs in Hispanic and black people.

Good grief Mac, that was quite a leap of logic there. You and logic when race is involved go together like Biden and speed chess.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-11-21, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by dlowilly

The same way there is a higher rate of STDs in Hispanic and black people.
Good grief Mac, that was quite a leap of logic there. You and logic when race is involved go together like Biden and speed chess.

I would agree with you IF blacks and Hispanics did not have access to hospitals and ventilators but they basically had the same access as white people. They were put on ventilators just like white people but DID NOT recover like white people. Are you saying diet? Weight? Hell white people eat just as bad as Hispanics and blacks. White people recovered much easier than they did. Why? We're not talking STD's which are part lifestyle choices. We're talking about a virus that everyone catches like the flu. I'm pretty sure this thing was created in a lab. Maybe targeting blood types??

**BOA12** · 06-11-21, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I would agree with you IF blacks and Hispanics did not have access to hospitals and ventilators but they basically had the same access as white people. They were put on ventilators just like white people but DID NOT recover like white people. Are you saying diet? Weight? Hell white people eat just as bad as Hispanics and blacks. White people recovered much easier than they did. Why? We're not talking STD's which are part lifestyle choices. We're talking about a virus that everyone catches like the flu. I'm pretty sure this thing was created in a lab. Maybe targeting blood types??

Makes sense. Spanish Flu carried overseas in WWI by our boys. Difference 100 years earlier, WE UNITED AS A NATION to battle it. Republican's, talking out both sides of their mouth, as usual, prefer this divides US ALL; makes their plan easier to implement.

**BOA12** · 06-11-21, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by dlowilly

The same way there is a higher rate of STDs in Hispanic and black people.

Good grief Mac, that was quite a leap of logic there. You and logic when race is involved go together like Biden and speed chess.

Unlike you?

**d2bets** · 06-11-21, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I would agree with you IF blacks and Hispanics did not have access to hospitals and ventilators but they basically had the same access as white people. They were put on ventilators just like white people but DID NOT recover like white people. Are you saying diet? Weight? Hell white people eat just as bad as Hispanics and blacks. White people recovered much easier than they did. Why? We're not talking STD's which are part lifestyle choices. We're talking about a virus that everyone catches like the flu. I'm pretty sure this thing was created in a lab. Maybe targeting blood types??

Says who. I don't buy that at all. If Trump was some black dude living in the ghetto he'd be 6 feet under.

A wealthy person is going to get tested faster, be more apt to go the hospital, go to a better hospital, etc. The hispanic living with several kids, parents, abuelas, etc. working 3 jobs to make ends meet is going to try to power through and is not going to the hospital until near death.

Risk factors lead to more minority cases and societal factors led to worse outcomes. Do you have any evidence that genetics based on race led to variable outcomes, or are you just wild-ass guessing?

**RudyRuetigger** · 06-11-21, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Says who. I don't buy that at all. If Trump was some black dude living in the ghetto he'd be 6 feet under.

A wealthy person is going to get tested faster, be more apt to go the hospital, go to a better hospital, etc. The hispanic living with several kids, parents, abuelas, etc. working 3 jobs to make ends meet is going to try to power through and is not going to the hospital until near death.

Risk factors lead to more minority cases and societal factors led to worse outcomes. Do you have any evidence that genetics based on race led to variable outcomes, or are you just wild-ass guessing?

maybe she should quit pumping out kids then

**d2bets** · 06-11-21, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

maybe she should quit pumping out kids then

Dude, you completely missed the point. Maybe you should quit posting then.

**RudyRuetigger** · 06-11-21, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Dude, you completely missed the point. Maybe you should quit posting then.

the point is you want to blame it on everything except the truth

having kids at a young age and out of wedlock is a recipe for poverty

NOT being black or hispanic as you suggest

**BOA12** · 06-11-21, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Dude, you completely missed the point. Maybe you should quit posting then.

Greatest cherry picker I've ever seen.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-11-21, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

A wealthy person is going to get tested faster, be more apt to go the hospital, go to a better hospital, etc. The hispanic living with several kids, parents, abuelas, etc. working 3 jobs to make ends meet is going to try to power through and is not going to the hospital until near death.

Risk factors lead to more minority cases and societal factors led to worse outcomes. Do you have any evidence that genetics based on race led to variable outcomes, or are you just wild-ass guessing?

of course I'm guessing. If I had evidence, I would have presented it to the WHO or news outlets already.

Wealthy people WERE NOT getting tested faster, heck no one was getting tested early on. Sick people are sick. They end up in the hospital when they can't breathe. It has nothing to do with wealth. Look at nursing homes, who were hit first from this pandemic. You had nursing homes with white, black, Hispanics in them. Guess who died and who lived? I know a 96 year old white man (who has all kind of medical issues) that got covid in a home and recovered immediately, while his black and brown friends dropped dead like flies. I talked to a assisted living nurse that told me that black and brown people were dying much higher than white people in the same care, eating the same food, same medical histories. Which leads me to believe it was man made and that someone was targeting specific genes, dna, blood types, something??? I also think vitamin D may have a link of sorts. I talked to several people who had high amounts of vitamin D and low amounts. The ones with high amounts had very mild covid symptoms. Low amounts = trouble.

No, I'm not a scientist, I'm an engineer that made my own conclusions. They could be dead wrong. Maybe one day we'll find out the real story.

**RudyRuetigger** · 06-11-21, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by BOA12

Greatest cherry picker I've ever seen.

point is you are both liberal nutjobs that want to blame anything except the truth

i just told him why trump isnt in the ghetto

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-11-21, 09:31 AM

Look at athletes that struggled with Covid. Most of them are black/brown. Now you may say that there's more black athletes in football and basketball but I seem to remember a lot in baseball? Rudy Gobert still can't taste or smell right. Myles Garrett never got back to his precovid shape. I can make a long list and these guys get the best medical care and they ain't living in poverty.

**dlowilly** · 06-11-21, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

I would agree with you IF blacks and Hispanics did not have access to hospitals and ventilators but they basically had the same access as white people. They were put on ventilators just like white people but DID NOT recover like white people. Are you saying diet? Weight? Hell white people eat just as bad as Hispanics and blacks. White people recovered much easier than they did. Why? We're not talking STD's which are part lifestyle choices. We're talking about a virus that everyone catches like the flu. I'm pretty sure this thing was created in a lab. Maybe targeting blood types??

You've got to be either extremely bored or a paid troll to post unsubstantiated fictitious nonsense like this.

What your girflriend's aunt's best friend says she experienced is not scientific.