Ruth, Jordan, Brady or Gretzky

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-10-21, 04:45 PM

Babe Ruth and this one isn't that close

The guy was the 1st sports celebrity

He changed AMERICA, basically invented the modern version of baseball

He also changed the way stars got paid

His black ink on the stats pages, absolutely insane...and that's just batting

Each other person on this list was just better than others around them, but played on a level field...baseball was changed because of Ruth's dominance

Christ he even invented the pinstripe uniform!

**Mr KLC** · 03-10-21, 10:58 PM

Brady - He took a franchise to be the team of the decade for 2 straight decades in the salary cap era to top it off...Leading another franchise to a championship was just the cherry on top

Gretzky is 2nd, but could not do it with another franchise without the Oilers supporting cast

Jordan faded in his late 30's...He had 6 championships, but that had already been done in the NBA...He didn't break new ground like Brady did

Ruth was an immortal, but only in the white world....How would he have done against some of the talent in the Negro Leagues? We'll never know

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 03-10-21, 11:09 PM

Surprised that guy that just got into a car wreck wasn’t one of the options.

**Vyasports** · 03-10-21, 11:11 PM

Brady

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 07:05 AM

Guys, when Ruth retired he owned EVERY batting record except hits + .avg (he was 4th)

This is insane to even debate. Forget the negro league argument, 1- Ruth barnstormed against them and crushed, 2- there weren't that many negotiations league players. Maybe a handful of pro caliber...it wasn't a nationwide phenomenon, neuro league ball was regional.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-11-21, 07:21 AM

I don’t understand anything you tried to type but the numbers speak for themselves.

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

I don’t understand anything you tried to type but the numbers speak for themselves.

Under alot of pressure here this AM.

Late to work, posting & driving

Gotta get donuts for big meeting

Gotta settle w local too, stalled him since Tuesday. I'm still short

**Chi_archie** · 03-11-21, 07:42 AM

Fatty focus on what is important.....

Can you tell us about Babe's pitching

**Jayvegas420** · 03-11-21, 07:52 AM

Can you tell us about the donuts you bought, variety and flavour.

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Can you tell us about the donuts you bought, variety and flavour.

2 doz chocolate glazed
A couple honeybuns

Krispy Kreme of course

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 03-11-21, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Can you tell us about the donuts you bought, variety and flavour.

Jay, we'll be back at Circus Circus soon enuf. And we'll clean out the dealer chip tray again!

**Chi_archie** · 03-11-21, 09:10 AM

Do nuts and dick pills

gonna be a good day

don't forget to hit arby's for the Roast beef diet sandwiches for lunch

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

Do nuts and dick pills

gonna be a good day

don't forget to hit arby's for the Roast beef diet sandwiches for lunch

Rodizio tonite

All you can eat beef

**Jayvegas420** · 03-11-21, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Jay, we'll be back at Circus Circus soon enuf. And we'll clean out the dealer chip tray again!

I am looking forward to it Chuckie but we will not be playing at the Circus Circus games room, somehow word got out that you beat me at AirHockey and when I arrived at the airport I was questioned by Canadian Customs, primarily about my AirHockey loss to you. It’s kind of a custom up here that if you lose to in American at AirHockey, You can expect to be harassed and mocked, even shunned in some cases. In fact I’m surprised they let me back in the country at all

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

I am looking forward to it Chuckie but we will not be playing at the Circus Circus games room, somehow word got out that you beat me at AirHockey and when I arrived at the airport I was questioned by Canadian Customs, primarily about my AirHockey loss to you. It’s kind of a custom up here that if you lose to in American at AirHockey, You can expect to be harassed and mocked, even shunned in some cases. In fact I’m surprised they let me back in the country at all

I challenge the forum to air hockey, Foosball, ping pong or tennis

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 03-11-21, 11:52 AM

People saying Brady do not understand the meaning of dominance. Tuck rule, Spygate, Deflategate... Dominant players do not need asterisks next to their rings.

Out of the choices given, Brady comes in last. How many rules did Brady change since he was so dominant? NONE

He was so dominant they had to change rules for him where basically defenders can no longer touch him below the belt.

Just because he has many rings doesn't mean he was the most dominant. Heck with that logic it's clearly Bill Russell.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-11-21, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

People saying Brady do not understand the meaning of dominance. Tuck rule, Spygate, Deflategate... Dominant players do not need asterisks next to their rings.

Out of the choices given, Brady comes in last. How many rules did Brady change since he was so dominant? NONE

He was so dominant they had to change rules for him where basically defenders can no longer touch him below the belt.

Just because he has many rings doesn't mean he was the most dominant. Heck with that logic it's clearly Bill Russell.

not clearly...there's someone tied

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 03-11-21, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

I challenge the forum to air hockey, Foosball, ping pong or tennis

Fats, life is good. Guys are going stir-crazy. A Vegas trip would be awesome.

**MinnesotaFats** · 03-11-21, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Fats, life is good. Guys are going stir-crazy. A Vegas trip would be awesome.

I agree...was supposed to go end of March but friends bailed out. Sounds like shows and restaurants are back...table games still suck, masks suck. Not sure if you can hang in the sportsbook or not?

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 03-11-21, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

not clearly...there's someone tied

Check your source. Bill Russell is the only one with 11 rings

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-11-21, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Regul8er

We never saw Ruth, so lets scratch him off the list.

Honestly, Id say Gretzky. Guy was a beanpole, played in the dirty ages of the sport, and was completely unstoppable. He had eyes in the back of his head, and was always in the right spot, it was truly amazing.

Great post. Funny how years go by.... people forget about him. Every time he touched the puck.... defense was always in fear. Assist or goal... it's going around the net at a very high percentage. Guy was crazy good.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-11-21, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Check your source. Bill Russell is the only one with 11 rings

Henri Richard

**Chi_archie** · 03-11-21, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

People saying Brady do not understand the meaning of dominance.

the sheer radius of the semantical interpretations on this thread alone has been mind boggling

no one is getting on the same page on this one for sure.

**Otters27** · 03-11-21, 07:50 PM

Ruth not the goat.

**swordsandtequila** · 03-11-21, 08:08 PM

By the numbers it's Gretzky, and it ain't even close.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 03-11-21, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

Henri Richard

Lol Who? Never heard of him but honestly, my knowledge of hockey is pretty weak.

**Thor4140** · 03-11-21, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by pimike

Brady

With what he can do at his old age is just amazing.

Gretzky retired at the age of 38.

So Brady in my time.

As several has said, we didn’t see MR. Ruth.

All three white guys he mentions.

I never knew you were a racist Mikey. I always knew you were one of those religious nuts tho.

**Thor4140** · 03-11-21, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

People saying Brady do not understand the meaning of dominance. Tuck rule, Spygate, Deflategate... Dominant players do not need asterisks next to their rings.

Out of the choices given, Brady comes in last. How many rules did Brady change since he was so dominant? NONE

He was so dominant they had to change rules for him where basically defenders can no longer touch him below the belt.

Just because he has many rings doesn't mean he was the most dominant. Heck with that logic it's clearly Bill Russell.

You could add KC gets a bogus offsides call that could be called almost every play but conveniently stole a Super Bowl visit for the Chiefs and hand it to BRADY. Also 25 penalties on the Chiefs the start of last Super Bowl pretty much put them in a bad spot the rest of the game. No Athlete in America got as much help as Brady getting to the next level. Lebron a close second.

**Thor4140** · 03-11-21, 09:36 PM

Can’t believe this thread lasted this long and it was me that mention Lebron first. No need to say his name anymore

**Thor4140** · 03-11-21, 09:37 PM

Nash called me and he said it would be Rick Flair in a close second Hulk Hogan

**Jayvegas420** · 03-12-21, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Lol Who? Never heard of him but honestly, my knowledge of hockey is pretty weak.

Also, Yogi has 13, ten as a player

**Vyasports** · 03-12-21, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

2 doz chocolate glazed
A couple honeybuns

Krispy Kreme of course

Fatty are you fat like homer simpson ?
Simpson ehh

**Chi_archie** · 03-12-21, 08:02 AM

in the NBA it all comes down to rings

that is why the all time great list is as follows... So many great celtics

Bill Russell celtics 11
Sam Jones celtics 10
Tommy Heinsohn celtics 8
KC Jones celtics 8
Tom Sanders celtics 8
John Havlicek celtics 8
Jim Loscutoff celtics 7
Frank Ramsey celtics 7
Robert Horry- many teams 7

**Chi_archie** · 03-12-21, 08:03 AM

those celtic's teams of the 50s and 60s were just unbelievable

it must have been so difficult to compete at such a high level with 6 or 7 hall of famers on your squad

competing against the other 7 teams in the league year in and year out.

**Jayvegas420** · 03-12-21, 08:42 AM

With each leagues expansion comes the dilution of talent. It was probably just as difficult to face the top six or seven pictchers every night week after week, before there were so many MLB teams