Michigan State -6.5 over Duke is a no brainer

**leetreaper** · 12-03-19, 07:28 AM

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**Cuse0323** · 12-03-19, 07:42 AM

State should win here. No clue if they cover. Duke just doesn’t have much outside of Vernon.

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-03-19, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

State should win here. No clue if they cover. Duke just doesn’t have much outside of Vernon.

This is where I’m at. MSU ML should be safe, but is the juice worth the squeeze? Even when Duke loses, they tend to lose close game.

Izzo is 2-11 vs Coach K, but one of those came in March with a similar MSU team but a much better Duke team than now.

Msu’s weakness on D this season is covering the 3pt line. Without Cassius Stanley, Duke’s only proven 3pt threat is Matt Hurt.

**unde0087** · 12-03-19, 10:14 AM

Well seeing how MSU has played two ranked team, those two games being the only single digit lines, and are 0-2 ATS, I think I might have to throw some on Duke plus the points. It isn't like MSU is much better of a team. Not sure what the Stephen F Austin game has to do with this one but I would expect this type of writeup from Bigbear. Hell VT downed MSU already as a 13 point underdog. Not saying MSU can't win and win comfortably but based on what I have seen so far not sure I would be laying 6+ in this one.

**Big Bear** · 12-03-19, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

This is where I’m at. MSU ML should be safe, but is the juice worth the squeeze? Even when Duke loses, they tend to lose close game.

Izzo is 2-11 vs Coach K, but one of those came in March with a similar MSU team but a much better Duke team than now.

Msu’s weakness on D this season is covering the 3pt line. Without Cassius Stanley, Duke’s only proven 3pt threat is Matt Hurt.

good write up

**jjgold** · 12-03-19, 04:14 PM

Bear a lot of points here, Duke not great but I am not taking favs

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-03-19, 09:46 PM

Bingham started. Loyer came in for cash a minute and 15 seconds into the game. Already bad foul calls. Tillman looks alive. Too many turnovers. So many thoughts already!

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 09:59 PM

Michigan state should push the pace not because I have the over but I think they can beat them playing downhill and fast

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:00 PM

Izzo heated

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-03-19, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by pilebuck13

Michigan state should push the pace not because I have the over but I think they can beat them playing downhill and fast

Agree!

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:06 PM

Duke completely shutting down the paint if they can’t get to the hoop they don’t have a chance

**cincinnatikid513** · 12-03-19, 10:18 PM

u sure about that

**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 12-03-19, 10:21 PM

I took mich state +8.5 live for a 1/2 unit

**krk1030** · 12-03-19, 10:23 PM

Michigan state is getting embarrassed

**krk1030** · 12-03-19, 10:24 PM

MSU looks as bad as Michigan on offense.

**lonegambler23** · 12-03-19, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by pilebuck13

Michigan state should push the pace not because I have the over but I think they can beat them playing downhill and fast

only the shiiity big10 loves to play slow and for football to run the ball

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:29 PM

These refs are terrible I don’t really play the ref shit but Jesus this is terrible

**KRIT** · 12-03-19, 10:33 PM

MSU just isn't that good. Strip away the uniforms and they have two good players and a bunch of young kids or scrubs. I laughed earlier in the season when media was calling Winston the best player, all you have to do is double team him off pick and rolls and he is neutralized. He is a midget PG with average athleticism. He can be shut down. Henry is a nice player. After that they have no one. They are getting schooled by a pretty weak Duke team.

They badly need Houser and Langford. Now if they had both those guys, then yeah they are a legit top 5 team. But right now teams are basically doubling Winston and saying, go ahead and shoot wide open shots other guys.

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

MSU just isn't that good. Strip away the uniforms and they have two good players and a bunch of young kids or scrubs. I laughed earlier in the season when media was calling Winston the best player, all you have to do is double team him off pick and rolls and he is neutralized. He is a midget PG with average athleticism. He can be shut down. Henry is a nice player. After that they have no one. They are getting schooled by a pretty weak Duke team.

They badly need Houser and Langford. Now if they had both those guys, then yeah they are a legit top 5 team. But right now teams are basically doubling Winston and saying, go ahead and shoot wide open shots other guys.

You are correct they are being outsized badly right now and if they don’t find a way to speed it up they don’t stand a chance

**Otters27** · 12-03-19, 10:36 PM

Fuk fuk fuk fuk

$398.24 $248.90 Pending 12/3/19 9:30pm Live In-Play Basketball 9798 Michigan State -160* vs Duke

**bitcoinLuke** · 12-03-19, 10:37 PM

"no brainer"

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Otters27

Fuk fuk fuk fuk

$398.24 $248.90 Pending 12/3/19 9:30pm Live In-Play Basketball 9798 Michigan State -160* vs Duke

Otters it’s always easy to look at a wager at half and say that

**jjgold** · 12-03-19, 10:41 PM

Game dead now

Mich St so overrated

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-03-19, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

MSU just isn't that good. Strip away the uniforms and they have two good players and a bunch of young kids or scrubs. I laughed earlier in the season when media was calling Winston the best player, all you have to do is double team him off pick and rolls and he is neutralized. He is a midget PG with average athleticism. He can be shut down. Henry is a nice player. After that they have no one. They are getting schooled by a pretty weak Duke team.

They badly need Houser and Langford. Now if they had both those guys, then yeah they are a legit top 5 team. But right now teams are basically doubling Winston and saying, go ahead and shoot wide open shots other guys.

Agree with the bottom half there on Langford and Hauser, but you’re off on Cash man... he’s been this ‘small’ (6’1”) for years now and somehow was voted the preseason POY in coaches poll by highest percentage of all time

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 10:58 PM

Dom you writing for that site now? Or is that your own thing or what

**2daBank** · 12-03-19, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Agree with the bottom half there on Langford and Hauser, but you’re off on Cash man... he’s been this ‘small’ (6’1”) for years now and somehow was voted the preseason POY in coaches poll by highest percentage of all time

Coaches have no business voting on such things. They way too wrapped up in their own teams to have well thought out opinions on others. I’ve heard Lot the good coaches let assistants do that voting, they have far more pressing issues, or should!! Lol

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-03-19, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by pilebuck13

Dom you writing for that site now? Or is that your own thing or what

Yeah I’m hangin around here but my juicy content is over there. I’ll share it here as long as that’s okay, not sure if it’s not.

**pilebuck13** · 12-03-19, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Yeah I’m hangin around here but my juicy content is over there. I’ll share it here as long as that’s okay, not sure if it’s not.

Bring the kid over there to write with yah that would be good

**jjgold** · 12-03-19, 11:03 PM

Mich St is not a top 15 team

Overrated

Coach too old

Need a new direction

**krk1030** · 12-03-19, 11:05 PM

Quick run to get the lead to 8 and they promptly give up b2b and 1's to Vernon Carey.

**Darkside Magick** · 12-03-19, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Duke is trash they lost to Stephen F Austin and almost lost to Elon

Take the Michigan State Spartans and kick back and put your feet up and relax with a stress free winner.

**sk0002** · 12-03-19, 11:20 PM

Michigan states are god penetrating awful, so bad. They shouldn't be ranked the way they are playing, bunch of trash idiots.

**jjgold** · 12-03-19, 11:23 PM

A lot of guys got buried on this game

**2daBank** · 12-03-19, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

You would think bear would have figured out some things by now. Like losing to a jr and senior laden SFA team is hardly damning, these kids have played together for long time and have fully developed bodies vs a very young duke team. Didn’t sparty get whipped by mid major in Hawaii tourney? These teams who recruit the 1 and done kids have tendency to struggle early on,