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  • TheMoneyShot
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    • 02-14-07
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    #36
    Originally posted by thomorino
    They were in game 7 of the conference finals 2 years ago, get a TV.
    Did they lose???? Sort of like your lousy wagers. Get a clue.
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #37
      Originally posted by shadymcgrady
      He outplayed everyone in 28 min after harden was talking trash about his mvp award
      Just trying to understand how we gonna try and give houston a pass cause of foul trouble when best player on planet (while kd hurt) foiled out for bucks?!?!? Seems like a very weak argument to me, but I don’t much like nba so maybe I’m wrong as unlikely as that seems!!! Lol.

      Far as harden talking bout freak he got a lot of nerve. I throw up a little when that flopping bitch gets mentioned let alone wins mvp. Total joke that guy Game is.
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      • dlowilly
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        • 11-09-16
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        #38
        Originally posted by thomorino
        The whole game turned when Harden was out, 36 minutes is nothing for Harden in a big game. He'd play a minimum 40 in any playoff game or big regular season game like the season opener.

        Houston dominated the game for most of the way, Harden's foul trouble was the only thing keeping Milwaukee in the game.
        His +/- for the game was -3

        Once again, you said they lost the 4th quarter because he didn't play the first part and because he was in foul trouble:

        Originally posted by thomorino
        They lost the 4th quarter because Harden was in foul trouble so he didn't play early in the quarter and had no rhythm
        He was only out the first 2 minutes of the 4th and they were leading when he came in. He didn't pick up his 5th foul until 3 and a half minutes left in the game. He played 22 of 24 2nd half minutes which is the half they got outscored by 22 points. You can keep saying what ur saying but the facts don't agree.
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        • Art Vandelay
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          • 09-11-06
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          #39
          Bottom line: Harden is starting his playoff disappearing act early this season. When was the last time Harden made a big play in crunch time of a playoff game? He's a joke player with a bunch of inflated numbers.

          As for last night, the Bucks put the game away with the best player on the planet on the bench for the last 5 minutes. Any question which team is better at this point? Didn't think so...
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          • thomorino
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            • 06-01-17
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            #40
            Originally posted by dlowilly

            His +/- for the game was -3

            Once again, you said they lost the 4th quarter because he didn't play the first part and because he was in foul trouble:


            He was only out the first 2 minutes of the 4th and they were leading when he came in. He didn't pick up his 5th foul until 3 and a half minutes left in the game. He played 22 of 24 2nd half minutes which is the half they got outscored by 22 points. You can keep saying what ur saying but the facts don't agree.
            Again, when a player misses major minutes because of foul trouble they have no rhythm, which is what happened to Houston. Houston completely dominated the first half, they were up 16 at half.
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            • thomorino
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              • 06-01-17
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              #41
              Originally posted by 2daBank
              But freak fouled out no?
              He did, but Harden had no rhythm for shooting because of foul trouble in the second half.
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              • dlowilly
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                • 11-09-16
                • 13862

                #42
                Originally posted by thomorino
                Again, when a player misses major minutes because of foul trouble they have no rhythm, which is what happened to Houston. Houston completely dominated the first half, they were up 16 at half.
                He didn't miss major minutes

                He played 22 2nd half minutes, which was when Houston got outscored by 22 points. The minutes he missed in the 1st half were when Hou got the big lead

                You can say Harden played poorly and that would be ok, but claiming they lost because he missed minutes or was in foul trouble in the 4th quarter, which is what you have claimed, is burying yourself.

                Maybe ur just trying to drum up traffic, who knows
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                • Mac4Lyfe
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                  • 01-04-09
                  • 48366

                  #43
                  Originally posted by 2daBank
                  I mean ultimately harden a bitch loser with the most pathetic game to watch in history of the league
                  This is true. I live in Houston but absolutely hate watching Harden play. His game is just not exciting to me. It's because of all the damn foul calls he draws. Last season my son and I was at a game where there was (I think) 56 free throws... 56. Harden took like 25 of them. A 2 hour game took 4 hours. It was so damn late I had to leave to get my son to bed for school. I don't come to games to watch a free throw shooting contest.
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                  • DOM-Ganador
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                    • 05-30-12
                    • 4479

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                    After 1 game this guy has everything figured out.

                    Kobe and Jordan would disagree with you.

                    Nah Grits, I don`t have everything figured out. Simply never been a fan of the way either of those guys play.
                    Together, my opinion as a guy who has watched and played hoops for 40+ years, is this duo is doomed for failure.

                    Putting Kobe, let alone MJ, on the same level as these 2 as complete/team players is suspect to say the least.

                    Time will tell.
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                    • DOM-Ganador
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                      • 05-30-12
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                      #45
                      My reason for starting this thread and my belief has very little to do with last night.
                      I found it funny that the pair couldn`t get through 1 freakin` game without a little dust-up.

                      I would pay $$ to see Russ in person. I would not want him on my team though.
                      Harden and his dribble, flop, FT routine makes for horrendous viewing.
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                      • thomorino
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                        • 06-01-17
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                        He didn't miss major minutes

                        He played 22 2nd half minutes, which was when Houston got outscored by 22 points. The minutes he missed in the 1st half were when Hou got the big lead

                        You can say Harden played poorly and that would be ok, but claiming they lost because he missed minutes or was in foul trouble in the 4th quarter, which is what you have claimed, is burying yourself.

                        Maybe ur just trying to drum up traffic, who knows
                        You have no clue what you are talking about, Houston dominated most of the game. Harden made 2 field goals and Gordon struggled all game, Houston still had complete control of the game most of the way through. Zero chance they miss the playoffs. Harden missed key minutes in the second half.
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                        • thomorino
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                          • 06-01-17
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                          #47
                          The whole game turned in the first 2 minutes do the 4th quarter that harden missed because of foul trouble like I said. Mwaukees went a Ina run and took control of them game, the 9 point lead went to 3, harden came in after Milwaukee had foul trouble.
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                          • thomorino
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                            • 06-01-17
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

                            Did they lose???? Sort of like your lousy wagers. Get a clue.
                            Get lost idiot, Houston has gone deep in the playoffs repeatedly they've been in the conference finals twice in the last 5 years.
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                            • 2daBank
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                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #49
                              Originally posted by thomorino
                              Get lost idiot, Houston has gone deep in the playoffs repeatedly they've been in the conference finals twice in the last 5 years.
                              Yea but they do kinda suck.
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                              • thomorino
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                                • 06-01-17
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by 2daBank

                                Yea but they do kinda suck.
                                Harden ain't clutch, Houston is still a top 5 team though.
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                                • dlowilly
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                                  • 11-09-16
                                  • 13862

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  You have no clue what you are talking about, Houston dominated most of the game. Harden made 2 field goals and Gordon struggled all game, Houston still had complete control of the game most of the way through. Zero chance they miss the playoffs. Harden missed key minutes in the second half.
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  The whole game turned in the first 2 minutes do the 4th quarter that harden missed because of foul trouble like I said. Mwaukees went a Ina run and took control of them game, the 9 point lead went to 3, harden came in after Milwaukee had foul trouble.
                                  Obvious trolling at this point

                                  Didn't really have a negative opinion about you before but I respect KVB's assessment on things, and it looks more and more like you just enjoy arguing.
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                                  • Goat Milk
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                                    • 03-24-10
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                    After 1 game this guy has everything figured out.

                                    Kobe and Jordan would disagree with you.
                                    Kobe and Jordan were the two best defensive players in the NBA for 10 years straight. They can take however many shots they want.
                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                    • Goat Milk
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                                      • 03-24-10
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                                      #53
                                      Obviously this team will be in the playoffs, anyone who says different doesn't know much. With that said, they can easily revert to their 1 on 1 styles come playoff time, especially when the pressure is on.

                                      If Harden and Westbrook knew how to play defense like Lebron and Wade in their primes it would be a straight wrap. Sadly, neither is a good defender, even though they're both in their primes. They get steals, and that's about it.
                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                      • thomorino
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                                        • 06-01-17
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by dlowilly


                                        Obvious trolling at this point

                                        Didn't really have a negative opinion about you before but I respect KVB's assessment on things, and it looks more and more like you just enjoy arguing.
                                        Get lost idiot, your bets on milwuakee and Houston to not make the playoffs are the 2 dumbest bets I've seen posted on this forum.
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                                        • dlowilly
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                                          • 11-09-16
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by thomorino
                                          Get lost idiot, your bets on milwuakee and Houston to not make the playoffs are the 2 dumbest bets I've seen posted on this forum.
                                          Aaaaaand change the subject

                                          You said Houston lost because Harden missed too many minutes in the 4th quarter and was in foul trouble in the 4th quarter

                                          You have done everything to avoid admitting all the evidence I've presented shows those statements are not just false, but ridiculous

                                          Hurry up now and change the subject again...
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                                          • thomorino
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                                            • 06-01-17
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by dlowilly
                                            Aaaaaand change the subject

                                            You said Houston lost because Harden missed too many minutes in the 4th quarter and was in foul trouble in the 4th quarter

                                            You have done everything to avoid admitting all the evidence I've presented shows those statements are not just false, but ridiculous

                                            Hurry up now and change the subject again...
                                            Houston pulled Harden at the end of the third and kept him out at the beginning of the fourth because of foul trouble, that's when the game turned.
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                                            • Cuse0323
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                                              • 12-09-09
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                                              #57
                                              Harden can be tough to watch for some, but love him or hate him, and I hated him for a long time, he’s a top 5 player in the NBA. I could see an argument for maybe 5-6 guys ahead of him, but that’s it. So, top 7 absolutely. Zero chance Houston misses the playoffs outside of injuries. There’s 7 other teams I would think that have a reasonable argument to possibly finish ahead of them, so worst case they’re 8th. I don’t know, guess you could throw in the Spurs and I’ll allow Minnesota for arguments sake. So, if the stars align and every single other contender hits their ceiling, and the Rockets perform well below expectations, then yeah sure, they miss the playoffs. Good luck with that.

                                              Westbrook is a major upgrade over Paul. Just on a whole different level than an aging CP3. Houston just one of those squads that the world loves to hate. Regardless, they’re right there contending at the end. I used to be a hater too, so I get it, but it’s nice these days to sit back and just enjoy the game for what it is. Gets tiresome always hating. These guys are the best in the world, so none of them suck. Sadly, that includes LeBitch.
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                                              • dlowilly
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                                                • 11-09-16
                                                • 13862

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                Houston pulled Harden at the end of the third and kept him out at the beginning of the fourth because of foul trouble, that's when the game turned.
                                                Oh he was supposed to play the whole second half? He was on the bench 2 minutes. Not because of foul trouble lol (He played the whole 3rd quarter). But you say those 2 minutes decided the game They went on a whopping 6-2 run in those 2 minutes to be down 4, then went on to win by 6 so that's -10 +/- for Harden in the 4th quarter.

                                                You're a lying, probably paid troll, and now you're an ignored one.
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                                                • thomorino
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                                                  • 06-01-17
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                  Oh he was supposed to play the whole second half? He was on the bench 2 minutes. Not because of foul trouble lol (He played the whole 3rd quarter). But you say those 2 minutes decided the game They went on a whopping 6-2 run in those 2 minutes to be down 4, then went on to win by 6 so that's -10 +/- for Harden in the 4th quarter.

                                                  You're a lying, probably paid troll, and now you're an ignored one.
                                                  No idiot, he did not okay the whole third quarter, and the game turned, momentum turned, at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Basketball is a game of runs, Milwaukee took control to begin the 4th because harden was out.
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                                                  • bjb7223
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                                                    • 11-03-12
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                                                    #60
                                                    The worst defensive team i've ever seen wow
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                                                    • IBetYou
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by bjb7223
                                                      The worst defensive team i've ever seen wow
                                                      Funny, after the Rockets/ Washington game people were gushing about the offense. Then Wiz get hammered, now the Rockets. Both horrible defensively.
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                                                      • DOM-Ganador
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                                                        • 05-30-12
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by bjb7223
                                                        The worst defensive team i've ever seen wow

                                                        Fitty Four to 17. In 15 minutes of play.
                                                        Seriously. This is NOT 7th grade beaver intramural.

                                                        The dude who has +2000 to miss playoffs should be encouraged.
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                                                        • KDF500
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                                                          • 02-05-13
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                                                          #63
                                                          This is something happening here. I don’t know what... but to be losing 53-17 midway through the 2nd quarter is bizarre. Think maybe players trying to release D’antoni
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #64
                                                            Yeh


                                                            Somethings going on in the locker room
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                                                            • kingdom
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                                                              • 07-25-10
                                                              • 10099

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by KDF500
                                                              This is something happening here. I don’t know what... but to be losing 53-17 midway through the 2nd quarter is bizarre. Think maybe players trying to release D’antoni
                                                              not a bad idea. he kinda sucks.
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                                                              • bjb7223
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                                                                • 11-03-12
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                                                                #66
                                                                This Westbrook contract will bury this club
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                                                                • Buckandadime
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                                                                  • 04-21-15
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                  Kobe and Jordan were the two best defensive players in the NBA for 10 years straight. They can take however many shots they want.
                                                                  Kobe was a chucker...
                                                                  Shoot the ball 40+ times a game your bound to score 25+...
                                                                  Get real..
                                                                  Best defensive player??
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                                                                  • DOM-Ganador
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-30-12
                                                                    • 4479

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Buckandadime
                                                                    Kobe was a chucker...
                                                                    Shoot the ball 40+ times a game your bound to score 25+...
                                                                    Get real..
                                                                    Best defensive player??
                                                                    RWB and Hardo can not....will not.....ever be anywhere close to the basketball player Kobe Bean Bryant was.
                                                                    RWB could be in the discussion. Except he has a serious mental deficiency.
                                                                    Harden no. Simply no. Dribble, fukkin dribble, draw foul flailing, arms akimbo....Elaine Benis.

                                                                    This group of individuals is DOOMED to failure.
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                                                                    • Buckandadime
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                                                                      • 04-21-15
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                                      RWB and Hardo can not....will not.....ever be anywhere close to the basketball player Kobe Bean Bryant was.
                                                                      RWB could be in the discussion. Except he has a serious mental deficiency.
                                                                      Harden no. Simply no. Dribble, fukkin dribble, draw foul flailing, arms akimbo....Elaine Benis.

                                                                      This group of individuals is DOOMED to failure.
                                                                      Agree 100%..
                                                                      Basketball is a team sport..
                                                                      It's all individuality and look at me..
                                                                      Reminds me of Stuart on MadTV!!!
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                                                                      • dlowilly
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                                                                        • 11-09-16
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                                        Fitty Four to 17. In 15 minutes of play.
                                                                        Seriously. This is NOT 7th grade beaver intramural.

                                                                        The dude who has +2000 to miss playoffs should be encouraged.
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