Dodgers (Kershaw) -170 / Yankees (German) +160

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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65240

    #1
    Dodgers (Kershaw) -170 / Yankees (German) +160
    OK, your pal Nasher just spent the last hour breaking down this ESPN main event just looking for a reason to fade Kershaw and the Dodgers.

    First Kershaw.
    He's having a bona fide Cy Young season.
    Overall 13 and 2 with an ERA of 2.71 and a WH/IP of 1.02
    He and the Dodgers are 18-4 in all 22 starts he's made.
    Stellar numbers, even more stellar when you factor in the golf balls he has to pitch with in this arena baseball age.
    147 K's in 141 IP's. Solid. That's 9 per 9 innings pitched.

    I checked out all 22 of his previous starts this year (tonight is start number 23)
    He hasn't missed a turn all season.
    In those 22 starts he's given up 4 or more runs only three times. (that's 18 quality starts)
    He's pitched six innings or more every time out.

    Now here's why Clayton is vulnerable in the post season and late in the regular season.
    Too many pitches thrown.
    Look at his game logs. The fewest number of pitches thrown in a game was 84 and that was on opening day.
    17 times CK has thrown 90 plus pitches, five times 100 plus.
    Too many damn pitches. How can you not develop rubber arm with that pace?

    Now I was looking at his last eight starts from the beginning of July up until tonight.
    Eight starts, all of them is classified as 'quality starts'
    I'm going to post his last eight, his last start he gave up three solo homers to the Jays.
    And what about that 8/1 start against San Diego? 6 hits and 5 walks?
    Are they really quality starts?
    Bottom line though is in those eight games he's 6 and 0 with a no decision loss and a no decision win.

    Date Opp Rslt Dec IP H R ER BB SO Pit
    Jul 5 SDP L,2-3 7 5 2 1 1 9 96
    Jul 15 @ PHI W,16-2 W(8-2) 6 4 1 1 2 7 101
    Jul 20 MIA W,10-6 6 2 0 0 1 10 97
    Jul 27 @ WSN W,9-3 W(9-2) 6 3 2 2 3 9 94
    Aug 1 SDP W,8-2 W(10-2) 6 6 2 2 5 5 87
    Aug 6 STL W,3-1 W(11-2) 7 4 1 1 1 9 101
    Aug 14 @ MIA W,9-1 W(12-2) 7 2 0 0 0 10 90
    Aug 20 TOR W,16-3 W(13-2) 6 6 3 3 3 6 89
    What I'm wondering is when is that 'clunker' coming?
    Is it going to come?

    Now onto the Dodgers, yes they are home beasts.
    Yes they won yesterday 2-1.
    But they haven't scored in the last two against New York (winning 2-1 and losing 10-2 in a very ugly loss)
    That's 4 runs in their last two and even though LA beat bottom feeders Blue Jays 3-2 and 2-1.
    In their last four all at home the Dodgers have scored only nine runs.
    Now that's not cause for warning alarms however it must be noted the bats are sleeping.

    Yankees start Domingo German.
    He sports a 16-3 record with a league average 4.15 ERA and a rock solid 1.14
    Being in the tri-state area I'm in the New York market and I get to see German pitch.
    He's got one problem and one problem only his home run rate is rather high yielding 27 of them which accounts for the four ERA.
    Know this and know this well. German can be as nasty as any starter in the league.

    Onto the Yankees.
    They are a top four left handed pitcher hitting team in the majors (BA OBA and OPS)
    Kershaw isn't any ordinary lefty though but the Yanks hit them.

    Your pal Nasher is going to try the Yanks at +160 and here's why.
    I'm banking on New York to keep this close and work Kershaw's pitch count.
    If successful they have a very real chance of winning this game late due to the Dodgers ordinary bullpen and that's being kind, if this is a bullpen game late the Yanks have the superior relief corp and that's not debatable.
    The total sits firm at 8.5 the over is juiced to the high heavens at -120 and some books are asking -125.
    I want to wager the under but I'm not totally convinced due to the Dodger bullpen.

    Your pal Nasher however will back the Yankees small. 40 to win 64 US dollars.
    I'm looking forward to this game.
  • capitalist pig
    SBR MVP
    • 01-25-07
    • 4996

    #2
    I took Yanks at +157 earlier. I saw in Kershaws 3 starts against Yanks he has no decisions, and I don’t know the outcome of those 3 games, not that three games is much of a sample, JMO

    later
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    • slayer14
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-12-13
      • 22007

      #3
      Under 8.5 why the total so high
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65240

        #4
        ^
        I don't let the line mind fuk me but I'm suspicious,
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        • slayer14
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-12-13
          • 22007

          #5
          I think the total should be 7.5
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          • SEAHAWKHARRY
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 11-29-07
            • 26068

            #6
            Good luck I'm on Kershaw just points tho no $$ on it I am saving for NFL Season
            But I put 800 on it
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65240

              #7
              Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
              Good luck I'm on Kershaw just points tho no $$ on it I am saving for NFL Season
              But I put 800 on it
              What are you expecting from your Seahawks this season Harry?
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                Got all I can from a Contrarian Fund standpoint out of this series.

                It's a pass all around for me.

                Good Luck Nasher!!

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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83691

                  #9
                  Fading the Dodgers.. Late night Sunday games Nationally televised always take the dog!!!

                  GO YANKIES!!!
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                  • SEAHAWKHARRY
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 11-29-07
                    • 26068

                    #10
                    Well We look Offensively Much better and the Running game of Carson and Penny will be exciting to see as well as Wilson's ability to throw on the run Tyler Lockett moves into the 1st wr role and will excell as we saw at the end of the season...Arizona not worried san Fran..Grappalo looks ..meh...Its all about the Rams...And will Gurley stay healthy..I like our chances this year looking like a 10 + win season especially if DJ Metcalf comes into his own he is a Beast.
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                    • jts1207
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-15-16
                      • 8011

                      #11
                      Dodgers RL
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                      • SEAHAWKHARRY
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 11-29-07
                        • 26068

                        #12
                        Go Doyers
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                        • sweethook
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-21-07
                          • 12667

                          #13
                          LA. ff-.5 gl.
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                          • Roscoe_Word
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-28-12
                            • 3999

                            #14
                            Info filled post, excellent analysis.
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                            • sosawestbrook
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-10-16
                              • 3135

                              #15
                              Steve where does Kershaw rank all time?
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                              • slayer14
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-12-13
                                • 22007

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sosawestbrook
                                Steve where does Kershaw rank all time?
                                Top 10 pitcher easily
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65240

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sosawestbrook
                                  Steve where does Kershaw rank all time?
                                  Modern era (excluding the Cy Young's etc. of yesteryear)

                                  Up there with (in no particular order)
                                  Jim Palmer
                                  Tom Seaver
                                  Steve Carlton
                                  Randy Johnson
                                  Sandy Koufax
                                  Justin Verlander
                                  Greg Maddux
                                  Pedro Martinez
                                  Bob Gibson
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                                  • pilebuck13
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-15-15
                                    • 17916

                                    #18
                                    Doyers answer back home run first pitch then a double. Fuk the Yankees go dodgers but gl on your bet I’m just a fan on this one.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65240

                                      #19
                                      That's six homers CK has given up now in his last two starts.
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                                      • slayer14
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-12-13
                                        • 22007

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        That's six homers CK has given up now in his last two starts.
                                        To many any other pitcher would get bad feedback
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                                        • Pete0
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-09-10
                                          • 3849

                                          #21
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65240

                                            #22
                                            ^
                                            Thank you Pete, but I still have to fade three more outs.
                                            I'm assuming they will bring in Chapman, he can be a roller coaster thrill a minute.
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                                            • pilebuck13
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-15-15
                                              • 17916

                                              #23
                                              Yah we get to see this sweaty bastard
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65240

                                                #24
                                                ^
                                                Chapman is like Johnny Franco when he was saving games for the Mets.
                                                Oh sure he'll get you the save, not before allowing a base runner to two.
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                                                • mackave
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-22-14
                                                  • 4972

                                                  #25
                                                  Too easy, had the -1.5 as well. bangggg
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                                                  • JMobile
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-21-10
                                                    • 19070

                                                    #26
                                                    Kershaw will shut them down in the WS.
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                                                    • pilebuck13
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-15-15
                                                      • 17916

                                                      #27
                                                      Dodgers are in a slump tremendous value in this play.
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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pilebuck13
                                                        Dodgers are in a slump tremendous value in this play.
                                                        Different handicapping methods will find value in different places but for the most part, among hundreds of methods I screen, this game showed very little value.

                                                        That doesn't mean bettors didn't find it, but it wasn't a very sexy game from a lot of angles.

                                                        I hope all is well Piler!

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                                                        • dawg58kahn
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 08-19-18
                                                          • 2106

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jibbby
                                                          fading the dodgers.. Late night sunday games nationally televised always take the dog!!!

                                                          Go yankies!!!
                                                          yankies lmao!!!
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                                                          • nocturnal012
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-25-11
                                                            • 893

                                                            #30
                                                            Spot on Nasher. Best MLB capper here.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65240

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by nocturnal012
                                                              Spot on Nasher. Best MLB capper here.
                                                              I appreciate those words, thank you.
                                                              There are a lot of baseball handicappers here that are great though, follow them as well keep your eyes open you can tell who they are.
                                                              Peace.
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                                                              • clockwise1965
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 10-01-13
                                                                • 6753

                                                                #32
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                                                                • nocturnal012
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-25-11
                                                                  • 893

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  I appreciate those words, thank you.
                                                                  There are a lot of baseball handicappers here that are great though, follow them as well keep your eyes open you can tell who they are.
                                                                  Peace.
                                                                  No one's breaking down the games like you do though. Or I just haven't been looking throughly. You pick your spots wisely and also provide with solid write-ups so that people who choose to tail will do so with more confidence. I'm mostly just a lurker in this forum but I do appreciate cappers like you who spends time sharing their analysis on their picks.
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