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  • 4uk4life
    SBR MVP
    • 12-09-10
    • 3302

    #36
    Originally posted by franklee168
    West coast is the best coast?
    Your soul is MINE!
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    • Optional
      Administrator
      • 06-10-10
      • 61390

      #37
      Sounds fun.

      Regions like this keep the home town rah rah going.
      .
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      • Stryder
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-10-14
        • 668

        #38
        Could break up the Top 36 Qualifying US Players into three teams with a more equal distribution of final standings as follows:

        US Alpha: 1, 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31, 34

        US Bravo: 2, 5, 8, 11, 14, 17, 20, 23, 26, 29, 32, 35

        US Charlie: 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36

        The Top 3 Qualifying Players could each go to a separate US Team and the remaining 33 Qualifying Players would be similarly distributed among the three US Teams. This way the talent could be more spread out, making the Team Matches more competitive
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #39
          guys, im actually moving to midwest sept 1

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          • Grivas_Digeni
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-08-15
            • 5307

            #40
            very well done

            3 u.s. teams for players who already have access to bitcoin through the store

            and 1 for people like me who wait for 2months+ for one sportsbook cash order to be finished

            bravo!
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            • cincinnatikid513
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-23-17
              • 45360

              #41
              Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
              very well done

              3 u.s. teams for players who already have access to bitcoin through the store

              and 1 for people like me who wait for 2months+ for one sportsbook cash order to be finished

              bravo!
              since im not playing im rooting for team international so when yall win you dont really win
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              • mikejamm
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-24-09
                • 11045

                #42
                To hell with all that separate states location bullshit. Top 36 U.S. players get a spot. Most players are from the USA anyway. SBR can just do a random draw of the 3 “regions” once the final 36 have been decided, or use the leaderboard totals.

                Good on SBR to add the additional U.S. region. Players from the USA were really getting screwed in the qualifying portion of this event.
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                • blankoblanco
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-18-11
                  • 3494

                  #43
                  I think they want a certain amount of regional pride which kind of gets hurt if 3 of the teams are just randomly assigned Americans. East vs West etc. makes for more of a rivalry

                  That being said, I have a feeling the difference between central and east is gonna be super unfair. East coast players specifically might actually end up more screwed than they were in the previous system. Hopefully I'm wrong on that, just guessing based on where it seems like a lot of the players are from
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                  • bobbywaves
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-06-08
                    • 13280

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
                    very well done

                    3 u.s. teams for players who already have access to bitcoin through the store

                    and 1 for people like me who wait for 2months+ for one sportsbook cash order to be finished

                    bravo!
                    World Cup format has nothing to do with bitcoin, WC prizes aren't even bitcoin.

                    Fact of the matter, US members butter SBR's bread. International members are expendable.

                    If you want to be treated with respect & have your store orders processed in a timely manner, get a clue & move to the U.S.
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                    • cincinnatikid513
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-23-17
                      • 45360

                      #45
                      Originally posted by blankoblanco
                      I think they want a certain amount of regional pride which kind of gets hurt if 3 of the teams are just randomly assigned Americans. East vs West etc. makes for more of a rivalry

                      That being said, I have a feeling the difference between central and east is gonna be super unfair. East coast players specifically might actually end up more screwed than they were in the previous system. Hopefully I'm wrong on that, just guessing based on where it seems like a lot of the players are from
                      east coast is def getting the montreal screw job on this one
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                      • Grivas_Digeni
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-08-15
                        • 5307

                        #46
                        Originally posted by mikejamm
                        To hell with all that separate states location bullshit. Top 36 U.S. players get a spot. Most players are from the USA anyway. SBR can just do a random draw of the 3 “regions” once the final 36 have been decided, or use the leaderboard totals.

                        Good on SBR to add the additional U.S. region. Players from the USA were really getting screwed in the qualifying portion of this event.
                        why stop at 36

                        make it 48!
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                        • ArunSh
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-24-07
                          • 6801

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
                          why stop at 36

                          make it 48!
                          Agreed! Just top 48 overall - no matter the region, quite simple. Then Top 12 a team, next 12 second team etc. And top team gets some type of edge in Finals as reward for being best in qualifying (like a few extra points say)
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                          • Ballerholic
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-16-13
                            • 2767

                            #48
                            I think world this year are winning it all. I'm announcing my entry into the world qualifiers
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                            • ArunSh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 6801

                              #49
                              As I alluded to above, say Top 48 qualify, 1-12 Team A, 13-24 Team B, 25-36 Team C, and 37-48 Team D.

                              Then same formatting for Finals just Team A starts with 6 points, Team B with 4 points, Team C with 2, and Team D with 0. Basically give the higher qualifying teams an edge in the Finals to reward them for their stronger qualifying position. That will give them a clear edge but still give all the other teams a real shot still - so a good format imo.
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                              • thetrinity
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-25-11
                                • 22430

                                #50
                                Not too bad could be worse

                                At least 36 spots are available for the usa
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                                • Carseller4
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-22-09
                                  • 19627

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                  east coast and west coast will be stacked do we have anybody in midwest , could be the canucks of world cup easy way get in



                                  at least autodonk will finally qualify
                                  USA Central...representing!
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                                  • cincinnatikid513
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-23-17
                                    • 45360

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Carseller4
                                    USA Central...representing!
                                    congrats ur a lock for the finals u and autodonk will be team mates
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                                    • mikejamm
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-24-09
                                      • 11045

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ArunSh
                                      As I alluded to above, say Top 48 qualify, 1-12 Team A, 13-24 Team B, 25-36 Team C, and 37-48 Team D.

                                      Then same formatting for Finals just Team A starts with 6 points, Team B with 4 points, Team C with 2, and Team D with 0. Basically give the higher qualifying teams an edge in the Finals to reward them for their stronger qualifying position. That will give them a clear edge but still give all the other teams a real shot still - so a good format imo.
                                      I respectfully disagree Arun. No advantage should be given to the top qualifiers nor should the top 12 qualifiers be on the same team. Qualifying should be kept equal and final USA teams should not be stacked against one another.

                                      With the difficulty and frustration of qualifying at SBR Poker. Restructure the final to reflect equal teams all around.

                                      Taking into account the constant shitty play here and the number of ongoing river bad beats, anybody could get lucky and go on a run in either direction.

                                      You just don’t see much strategy in short ass shove fest daily tourneys 6 handed with a 1k stack.

                                      If you’re lucky enough to get in you’re in, should’t matter of you’re 48th or 1st. Cause that’s really what it takes around here, a lot of dumb fuk’in luck.
                                      Last edited by mikejamm; 08-22-19, 07:40 PM.
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                                      • ArunSh
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-24-07
                                        • 6801

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by mikejamm
                                        I respectfully disagree Arun. No advantage should be given to the top qualifiers nor should the top 12 qualifiers be on the same team. Qualifying should be kept equal and final USA teams should not be stacked against one another.

                                        With the difficulty and frustration of qualifying at SBR Poker. Restructure the final to reflect equal teams all around.

                                        Taking into account the constant shitty play here and the number of ongoing river bad beats, anybody could get lucky and go on a run in either direction.

                                        You just don’t see much strategy in short ass shove fest daily tourneys 6 handed with a 1k stack.

                                        If you’re lucky enough to get in you’re in, should’t matter of you’re 48th or 1st. Cause that’s really what it takes around here, a lot of dumb fuk’in luck.
                                        Fair enough! People can obviously have different opinions on things. I personally have always felt though that the "top" qualifiers should get some advantage in the "Final". Granted that was more when 100 people qualified for the Finals often, and it was fairly easy to qualify for the Final via playing half the tourneys. Felt when some people played every day while others only played enough to ensure qualification, those who put more effort in should be somewhat rewarded for it.

                                        But if it were Top 48, it would still require people to play almost every day in order to make it - much less likely you could make it in by only playing on half the days say. So I agree less needed in such a system. But still, rewarding the top qualifiers still certainly has some merit to it to put a bit more emphasis on the qualifying stage. To me that just makes sense with the qualifying stage being three months long and the actual final only being a week long - assign a bit more importance to the three month stage of it!
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                                        • mpaschal34
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-04-13
                                          • 12087

                                          #55
                                          Interesting change....should be a lot of fun. Not sure of how many central players there are though.

                                          Thanks SBR!
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                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-23-17
                                            • 45360

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                            Interesting change....should be a lot of fun. Not sure of how many central players there are though.

                                            Thanks SBR!

                                            hopefully at least 12
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                                            • mikejamm
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-24-09
                                              • 11045

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by ArunSh
                                              Fair enough! People can obviously have different opinions on things. I personally have always felt though that the "top" qualifiers should get some advantage in the "Final". Granted that was more when 100 people qualified for the Finals often, and it was fairly easy to qualify for the Final via playing half the tourneys. Felt when some people played every day while others only played enough to ensure qualification, those who put more effort in should be somewhat rewarded for it.

                                              But if it were Top 48, it would still require people to play almost every day in order to make it - much less likely you could make it in by only playing on half the days say. So I agree less needed in such a system. But still, rewarding the top qualifiers still certainly has some merit to it to put a bit more emphasis on the qualifying stage. To me that just makes sense with the qualifying stage being three months long and the actual final only being a week long - assign a bit more importance to the three month stage of it!
                                              Your right on the amount of playing time involved, Arun. You still a have to make serious commitment to play. I'm open to anything changing it up to make it more exciting. We could do a side pool like in Nascar for the best, say top 5 qualifiers. At least with a 3rd USA team, it gives more opportunity to those players who do play everyday, rather than a weak ass world team where a single cash gets you in.
                                              Last edited by mikejamm; 08-22-19, 09:23 PM.
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                                              • GUMMO77
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-23-10
                                                • 9294

                                                #58
                                                Wished I lived in Minnesota still for this one.

                                                Nonetheless, good job SBR with the changes.
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 51983

                                                  #59
                                                  Hopefully the Central USA team only has a few players.

                                                  I would like to know what its like to qualify off 1 cash. Like Canada had it for years
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                                                  • unlearn
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-22-14
                                                    • 9032

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                    Hopefully the Central USA team only has a few players.

                                                    I would like to know what its like to qualify off 1 cash. Like Canada had it for years
                                                    I'd be on central if I decide to play. Would be a shoe in obv but I hate that 6 max 1k bs.
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                                                    • stuler
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-24-12
                                                      • 1019

                                                      #61
                                                      I would just say this about IP addresses. I use VPN and can make my IP address just about anywhere in the world I want. I can play poker and look like I'm in Missouri tonight and then come back tomorrow night and play from Russia. Doesn't everyone have to give a permanent address when they signed up an account? Can't SBR just base a players region off that alone to solve the VPN/international travel problem? Just my 2 cents worth on the matter.
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                                                      • Xstream
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-28-11
                                                        • 963

                                                        #62
                                                        Central players that I know of; Unlearn, Rudy, Jake, AD, Mpasc, 5Mike5, Stuler, CarSeller, and X for the Central Team. Looks good! Other Central players add to the post.
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                                                        • sportfan
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-22-09
                                                          • 10111

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                          Three USA teams is step in right direction. But hypothetically, the top 13 USA qualifiers can be from the same region. In this scenario, the 13th top USA qualifying score wouldn't even make a team. While qualifying scores 14th & worse would make a team, not sure how that's fair.

                                                          Top 36 USA qualifying scores should make a team, period. Then create 3 teams based on where they qualify. Doesn't matter what the 3 USA teams are called, region names aren't necessary.

                                                          Team USA - qualifiers ranked 1 thru 12
                                                          Team Confederates - qualifiers ranked 13 thru 24
                                                          Team Union - qualifiers ranked 25 thru 36
                                                          I agree with this, simple and fair to all US players
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                                                          • sportfan
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-22-09
                                                            • 10111

                                                            #64
                                                            Hell I didn't know Puerto Rico counted as a state
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                                                            • ArunSh
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-24-07
                                                              • 6801

                                                              #65
                                                              Which US players are in the West? I am along with I think Jakepeavy21, but I have no idea who the others are! Surely have to be quite a few Californians though, just no idea if any of the other Western States have almost any haha. In any case, whoever is in the West, please speak up, curious who my teammates might end up being (assuming hopefully that I can qualify!).
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                                                              • sportfan
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-22-09
                                                                • 10111

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                Hopefully the Central USA team only has a few players.

                                                                I would like to know what its like to qualify off 1 cash. Like Canada had it for years
                                                                Could be less than Canada , it is unfair for players from West and East coast
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                                                                • Grivas_Digeni
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 05-08-15
                                                                  • 5307

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Ballerholic
                                                                  I think world this year are winning it all. I'm announcing my entry into the world qualifiers
                                                                  sh............t and now this
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                                                                  • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-10-15
                                                                    • 3955

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by franklee168
                                                                    West coast is the best coast?
                                                                    Let's go cali!!
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                                                                    • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-10-15
                                                                      • 3955

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by ArunSh
                                                                      Which US players are in the West? I am along with I think Jakepeavy21, but I have no idea who the others are! Surely have to be quite a few Californians though, just no idea if any of the other Western States have almost any haha. In any case, whoever is in the West, please speak up, curious who my teammates might end up being (assuming hopefully that I can qualify!).
                                                                      Myself, franklee, and QuingX are in bay area.
                                                                      Jake Peavy and seahawk are in SD
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                                                                      • sportfan
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 12-22-09
                                                                        • 10111

                                                                        #70
                                                                        West coast checking in
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