There's little skill in poker tournaments unfortunately

onthewhat · 07-23-09, 09:54 PM

tacomax · 07-23-09, 09:56 PM

But when you win a tournament, you talk as if you're one step away from a WSOP bracelet.

illmatick · 07-23-09, 09:58 PM

sorry, I had big money on you not cracking the top 20, I see you removed me from you're table early on

fishaholictaz · 07-23-09, 09:58 PM

That is poker you feed on the fish until they choke and kill you

pavyracer · 07-23-09, 09:59 PM

There is no skill in picking five -550 tennis losing bets in a row.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by fishaholictaz

That is poker you feed on the fish until they choke and kill you

Yep, unfortunately my opponent's terrible decision making paid off. I was cruising up until that moment, and unfortunately did not weather the storm.

Justin7 · 07-23-09, 10:17 PM

I don't know where the blinds were, but an aggressive semi-bluff with low-pair never sounds terrible.

nosniboR11 · 07-23-09, 10:27 PM

lou u r far from god in poker , jeez grow up little man

soxwin1917 · 07-23-09, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

I don't know where the blinds were, but an aggressive semi-bluff with low-pair never sounds terrible.

Exactly. Lou is really bitter about this one, but thats a decent play and he knows it. Sure I was drawing, but that doesn't mean its as terrible a play as he makes it out to be.

reno cool · 07-23-09, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

I don't know where the blinds were, but an aggressive semi-bluff with low-pair never sounds terrible.

Lou, I'm beginning to think you're just not a very good gambler.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by soxwin1917

Exactly. Lou is really bitter about this one, but thats a decent play and he knows it. Sure I was drawing, but that doesn't mean its as terrible a play as he makes it out to be.

Unfortunate to lose about half my stack on a hand where an opponent had a flush draw, but that's poker. Congrats on the fortuitous hand, am sure you will not make the final table though.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by reno cool

Lou, I'm beginning to think you're just not a very good gambler.

I was chip leader at table and had played remarkably all night, having eliminated at least 4 players myself. I don't recall losing a hand at showdown up until my final two and many of my hands never made it that far. He had the luck hitting the flush, however. Oh and yes, a raggedy pair of two's. Nice hand to open with so aggressively, he was raising with trash preflop the entire time I was at the table, just paid off for him I guess.

mathdotcom · 07-23-09, 10:35 PM

Crazy.... if there was skill then you'd have been tossed even sooner.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by mathdotcom

Crazy.... if there was skill then you'd have been tossed even sooner.

Don't recall going into a hand behind that went to showdown, barring the last hand and the time I had gotten sucked out on, of course. Ask Rogue Juror about the level I was playing at.

dwaechte · 07-23-09, 10:37 PM

Wait, Lou, are you actually suggesting that someone got a bad beat in poker? OMG, that NEVER happens!

Seriously, people who bitch about bad beats in poker are about as lame as they come.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Wait, Lou, are you actually suggesting that someone got a bad beat in poker? OMG, that NEVER happens!

Seriously, people who bitch about bad beats in poker are about as lame as they come.

Of course, just unfortunate when one deflates you after you had played so well and put yourself in position to make the final table, though.

That's poker, though, and the illogical playing of my opponent paid off. GL.

nosniboR11 · 07-23-09, 10:39 PM

lou grow up man, jeez, seriously man I think you have a problem

reno cool · 07-23-09, 10:40 PM

chances of him hitting the flush (40+%)added to the possibility of you folding made it a good play.
The fact that you went on tilt because of this fairly standard play is not good either.

SBR Lou · 07-23-09, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by reno cool

chances of him hitting the flush (40+%)added to the possibility of you folding made it a good play.
The fact that you went on tilt because of this fairly standard play is not good either.

Eh, wasn't on tilt, just didn't respect his raise into my blind a few hands later. He had raised with crap the entire time, including opening a pot aggressively with A-2, why should I believe he has A-10 beat?

My re-raise was the right play, once he shoved I was committed anyway.

Justin7 · 07-23-09, 11:43 PM

Crazy,

What were the blinds? And how did you get 2k in pre-flop?

pico · 07-23-09, 11:52 PM

i went all in with a-5 suited. need a suit on the river and it didn;t come. fvcking rigged.

donjuan · 07-23-09, 11:58 PM

Will we be hearing about how you were an underdog in both hands and stacked off with what was likely a coinflip at best in the first?

Eh, wasn't on tilt, just didn't respect his raise into my blind a few hands later. He had raised with crap the entire time, including opening a pot aggressively with A-2, why should I believe he has A-10 beat?

Pokerstove.com. You need to learn about hand ranges.

SBR Lou · 07-24-09, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by donjuan

Will we be hearing about how you were an underdog in both hands and stacked off with what was likely a coinflip at best in the first?

Pokerstove.com. You need to learn about hand ranges.

I was on the button with J10 and he had been raising preflop a few hands in a row, he was playing pretty loose. With my stack in position I obviously felt I could outplay him after the flop, I did get my money in with the best of it but his flush came through. Period.

exstatman · 07-24-09, 12:20 AM

I played at Lou's table, and he was very good tonight. If you weren't there, you have no right to be critical.

donjuan · 07-24-09, 12:24 AM

I did get my money in with the best of it

Unless you had a backdoor flush draw and he had no overs, you were a slight underdog.

Nickelicious · 07-24-09, 02:57 AM

What can you say? Poker is a diabolical combination of skill and luck, but unfortunately only luck will deliver you.

VegasDave · 07-24-09, 03:07 AM

Wait a second, just to make sure I'm understanding correctly;

He pushed with the nut flush draw and you are upset with him?

His Ah 2h had your J 10 beat preflop 57/42.5, and after the flop of 2off 8h 10h, He was STILL the slight favorite at 51.62%

He got all his chips in with the best of it, what exactly is it that you are complaining about?

Dark Horse · 07-24-09, 03:07 AM

With this title to the thread I was ready to congratulate you on winning the whole thing.

tacomax · 07-24-09, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Wait a second, just to make sure I'm understanding correctly;

He pushed with the nut flush draw and you are upset with him?

His Ah 2h had your J 10 beat preflop 57/42.5, and after the flop of 2off 8h 10h, He was STILL the slight favorite at 51.62%

He got all his chips in with the best of it, what exactly is it that you are complaining about?

CrazyLou's poker evaluating system had him at a 98.6% preflop favourite and a 97.1% postflop favourite. Maybe you should check your numbers again, Dave.

Lou got a bad beat, that was all.

CRAZYBEAR007 · 07-24-09, 10:42 AM

I have decided I am going to lay down AK whenever I play in these Thursday night FRs. They did me in again! In a matter of 5 hands in 2 different tournaments I went from TOP 10 to "Can I get you Fries with that Order" with AK. Here's how:

MY HANDS

AK Suited, raised to 3X the big blind, next player goes all in (no it wasn't all in LOU), and here is where I MADE the bad play. From the way the all-in caller had been playing I immediately put him on a big PAIR, he turns AA, flop leaves me a flush draw but NOT.

AK off two hands later, raise and two players come over the top; I am up against QQ and 77. Lose to a set of sevens.

AK three hands later, get raised all on by a pair of 55. Ok another coin flip but I loose to a full boat.

Not one of these hands did I even end up with a pair. I am going back to playin them like K8 off!

yahoonino · 07-24-09, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by pico

i went all in with a-5 suited. need a suit on the river and it didn;t come. fvcking rigged.

yahoonino · 07-24-09, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Nickelicious

What can you say? Poker is a diabolical combination of skill and luck, but unfortunately only luck will deliver you.

you hit the nail right on the head,,,,to me ,is more luck then skill,,,i have goin all in many time with the best hand ,,,to get beat on the river,,,,to win a torney you need skill and LOT LOT LOT LOT LUCK

Willie Bee · 07-24-09, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by exstatman

I played at Lou's table, and he was very good tonight. If you weren't there, you have no right to be critical.

exstat, I have to disagree. For many of these folks that have no life, living vicariously through the failures of those that at least get out there and try is all they have. God bless.

necro · 07-27-09, 01:13 PM

I remember from week or two back at SBR freeroll, I was at same table as Crazy Lou, got lucky for few hands,beat his cards with 'lucky' river, took early lead and he started commenting my style of play. I don't give a **** what others think about my 'style' of playing and don't know why should I play by some rules...

It's also interesting how are some people selective with their memory..Paraphrased=> If I got 'lucky' and hit right card on river, it's ok...But when somebody beat me with river card, he is donk/fish/etc

/No hard feelings!