Kawhi free agency - I'll be very surprised if he stays in Toronto............

**TheMoneyShot** · 06-14-19, 10:19 PM

Even if G.S. beat Toronto. Leonard wasn't going to stay.

Guy was just so happy to get out of San Antonio... for whatever reason.

Wish the guy would show a heart... and stay with Toronto... but he won't.

**thomorino** · 06-14-19, 10:21 PM

He's obviously close with Lowry who is is 33, I can't see him signing more than a 2 year deal, but I think the most likely scenario is he stays.

**MinnesotaFats** · 06-14-19, 10:40 PM

Clippers

**lakerboy** · 06-14-19, 10:48 PM

You guys don't follow odds? -206 to stay and+174 to leave. Go hammer +174

**gojetsgomoxies** · 06-14-19, 10:59 PM

what is the deal if leonard signs with toronto? when can he be traded? i think that works for everyone. kawhi gets his money. raptors get an extension to their elite run. clippers get kawhi in a years time.

i haven't seen this discussed but it seems like everyone wins with that model.

i see leonard said "they - the raptors - should be able to build off this championship". honestly, i think people parse language way too much but it is interesting.

**MiDNiTe** · 06-14-19, 11:04 PM

Yeah thought he was no chance staying but feels like he's been giving lil hints that he's gonna stay

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Even if G.S. beat Toronto. Leonard wasn't going to stay.

Guy was just so happy to get out of San Antonio... for whatever reason.

Wish the guy would show a heart... and stay with Toronto... but he won't.

Spurs org namely pop had players call him out for not returning in Feb last year from injury. He felt betrayed

Show heart by staying in Toronto? He's s grown man he can do whatever he wants. Dude has huge heart.

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by MiDNiTe

Yeah thought he was no chance staying but feels like he's been giving lil hints that he's gonna stay

He referred to the raptors as "they" post game. That was a huge hint that u missed.

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

You guys don't follow odds? -206 to stay and+174 to leave. Go hammer +174

Clips were -175 a month ago. Ppl think hell stay now due to "kawine and dine" but he knows as quickly as they love u they can turn on u too

**Outsider626** · 06-14-19, 11:33 PM

He is going to Lakers. Bookies are not stupid. Lakers are -400 right now to win the championship. Big 3: AD-Lebron-Kawhai.

**Cuse0323** · 06-14-19, 11:37 PM

He’s going to LA, and always has been. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise. Big market, and his hometown. Absolutely zero chance he ends up anywhere besides the Clippers or Lakers. This was a one year thing for him to get things in order to go back home. He has all his marketing ordeals in order, and will be huge in the LA market. He’s in line to make bank, and LA is the perfect spot to do so. Kids will be running out to buy New Balances like crazy. He played the Spurs well, and this was his plan all along whether they won a championship or not.

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by Outsider626

He is going to Lakers. Bookies are not stupid. Lakers are -400 right now to win the championship. Big 3: AD-Lebron-Kawhai.

I think the Lakers are the faves to win the title because the BETTORS are moving the line thinking they get AD and either butler, kemba, or kyrie. One of those matter three

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:39 PM

The Lakers are a mess and the clips have Jerry west

If he goes LA it's da clips

**homie1975** · 06-14-19, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by Outsider626

He is going to Lakers. Bookies are not stupid. Lakers are -400 right now to win the championship. Big 3: AD-Lebron-Kawhai.

Lakers are +450 to win the title. 9 to 2 odds. Even if it was 4 to 1 that is +400. Not -400. Minus would be 1 to 4 odds.

**Outsider626** · 06-14-19, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

Lakers are +450 to win the title. 9 to 2 odds. Even if it was 4 to 1 that is +400. Not -400. Minus would be 1 to 4 odds.

Doesn't change the fact that bookies consider them the favorites.

**Outsider626** · 06-14-19, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

I think the Lakers are the faves to win the title because the BETTORS are moving the line thinking they get AD and either butler, kemba, or kyrie. One of those matter three

Kemba is staying 100%. Kyrie apparently wants to sign with Nets right now.

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Outsider626

Doesn't change the fact that bookies consider them the favorites.

Rumor strong for a long time that kawhi does not want to play w LeBron.

**gauchojake** · 06-15-19, 12:22 AM

The Lakers are favored because they will get AD and the West is a mess.

**icon** · 06-15-19, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

No unfinished business left there. He got them a chip right away.

The last time he got to choose his destination it was SDSU. He didn't choose the spurs or the raptors. They chose him. Now he has the power to control his next 4 years.

Yes the raptors can pay him 50M more than anyone else the next 4Y but if he leaves for a large market he'll get even more endorsement deals that will/can make up the gap.

Where will he go? My gut says we should believe the smoke that arose from the fire last year and he will sign w the LA clippers and try to take one of his hometown teams to heights they've never achieved. Remember, they've never even been to the conf finals.

Jerry west and Steve Ballmer will likely get their man.

If not the clips then i have no idea where lol.

Toronto is a large market - greater population than Chicago and 3rd largest city in N America not including Mexico.
Plus most of Canada is the Raptors market, thats 36 million.

Agree with everything else.

**TheMoneyShot** · 06-15-19, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by MiDNiTe

Yeah thought he was no chance staying but feels like he's been giving lil hints that he's gonna stay

When he spoke to Scott Van Pelt for ESPN... he said the city of Toronto and Canada... like it was past tense. Not like... "It Just Happened". More like... I'm happy to win a Championship for the city... now I must go. Didn't actually say... I must go... but it was just an odd interview.

I think he's leaving.

**shocka1212** · 06-15-19, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

Clips were -175 a month ago. Ppl think hell stay now due to "kawine and dine" but he knows as quickly as they love u they can turn on u too

turn on him? for what?

**MiDNiTe** · 06-15-19, 02:36 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

When he spoke to Scott Van Pelt for ESPN... he said the city of Toronto and Canada... like it was past tense. Not like... "It Just Happened". More like... I'm happy to win a Championship for the city... now I must go. Didn't actually say... I must go... but it was just an odd interview.

I think he's leaving.

OK I saw a couple other ones but not that one, I agree with others no chance lakers most likely clippers

**jjgold** · 06-15-19, 06:01 AM

He is staying

some of you guys not bright

**Hman** · 06-15-19, 06:07 AM

For his own benefit, he should leave.

They fell into a very fortunate situation this year.

Marc Gasol is 34 and slowing down.

Lowry is 33 and too inconsistent.

He gave Toronto a championship he should now move on and put himself in an easier position.

**champlain** · 06-15-19, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Hman

For his own benefit, he should leave.

They fell into a very fortunate situation this year.

Marc Gasol is 34 and slowing down.

Lowry is 33 and too inconsistent.

He gave Toronto a championship he should now move on and put himself in an easier position.

You don’t get Siakam on every team; a young rising player, versatile, plays both ends. There’s also OG Anunoby. He’s a guy that the gm refused to include in a trade for Kawhi Leonard. Some people will say who is this guy? Well, nobody knew Siakam at the same time last year. He’s only 21 so theoretically he has even more upside than Siakam. Those are tall and athletic 6’8 or 6’9 types that made the bulls defense so good with Jordan.

**biggie12** · 06-15-19, 10:21 AM

raptors are set to win again if there are not big moves made around the league

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

He is staying

some of you guys not bright

Coach don't go there.

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by shocka1212

turn on him? for what?

In 3 or 4 years when the team is mediocre again

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by biggie12

raptors are set to win again if there are not big moves made around the league

And if my aunt had gonads...

**biggie12** · 06-15-19, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

And if my aunt had gonads...

we will talk next february. Untill then maybe tell your aunt to get checked out by a doc

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by icon

Toronto is a large market - greater population than Chicago and 3rd largest city in N America not including Mexico.
Plus most of Canada is the Raptors market, thats 36 million.

Agree with everything else.

If he wouldve won this title for an American team that had never won before, it would be a much bigger deal here in the USA than it is right now

**homie1975** · 06-15-19, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by biggie12

we will talk next february. Untill then maybe tell your aunt to get checked out by a doc

No we will talk in 3 weeks or less when BIG MOVES have happened.

**champlain** · 06-15-19, 10:27 AM

The raptors were 17-5 without him this year. If you think other teams will be so accommodating to load management with Leonard, don’t be so sure when the team is struggling to make the playoffs.

**biggie12** · 06-15-19, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by homie1975

No we will talk in 3 weeks or less when BIG MOVES have happened.

Right!. Because you will be able to see team chemistry before they get a chance to play together.

Homie stick to the grass and clay.