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  • Hman
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-04-17
    • 21429

    #36
    Been gambling in some form or another since a young age with complete control, yet have never tried drugs and never will.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #37
      Originally posted by Hman
      Been gambling in some form or another since a young age with complete control, yet have never tried drugs and never will.
      .......
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #38
        Chevy/Jibby It took a lot of willpower for you to quit and you think about it every day still wishing you can smoke and now you rent to a drug dealer
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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83686

          #39
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Chevy/Jibby It took a lot of willpower for you to quit and you think about it every day still wishing you can smoke and now you rent to a drug dealer
          A friend just today offered me edibles and I passed, I can get all the free weed I want high grade also and pass because I leased my vacant commercial property out to a legal dispensary.. My new tenant loves me because of the lease he signed.. It's truth and I'm not lying either..

          Not proud to lease my property out to a dispensary as it was a car dealership for 20 years before that.. California though weed is legal so why not? It was winter and I took the best offer. I like this new tenant, an honest guy that has money already and owns a restaurant.. I ran his credit and financials, solid as they come.

          He makes a killing off the weed dispensary business, he told me that. He had another location up and running before he signed a lease with me.. Pulled up in a brand new Range Rover and all. I just wish I leased it to him for more.. He got a good deal off me and he knows it..

          HIS BIGGEST problem he tells me since his weed dispensary is legal and legit he has to worry about rouge illegal weed dispensaries popping up and under selling the prices. California has yet to really crack down on the illegal ones that pop up and don't pay taxes or anything. It's a crazy market out here right now, still being regulated..
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #40
            I’m a big fan of both.

            My drug class counselor said that I use gambling and other risky activities to substitute the dopamine I used to get from moving weight!!
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #41
              Vices everyone has at some point in life. Compulsive behavior in something. I've never met a pure saint that has been clean of everything their entire life..

              We battle them all in life and try to tame them and then we beat them if we can tame them. Moderation with everything in life is not destructive, excessive use is what destroys us..

              When the vice controls you then you are no longer in control of your life and then you become a death risk. Living on edge then. Living for the drug and or vice only daily IS NOT GOOD!!!

              If you value your life you better seek GA, AA or drug REHAB centers, that usually entails giving it up to a higher power as you just can't do it on your own.

              Just my take on vices and addictions.. I know many that have gone thru them and that is what I learned.. Just sharing.
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              • The General
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-10-05
                • 13279

                #42
                My food addiction is bad right now. It's always something.
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #43
                  That higher power crap is for the birds. I endulge in all kinds of vices, I’ve gotten carried away w several of them at one time or another, but you know what? When I realize it s problem and need to scale back or quit something I do!! Not cause some cheeseball steps or higher powers but because I was blessed w self control and a ability to police myself!!!
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                  • The General
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 13279

                    #44
                    20% of people in rehab succeed and of those 20%, 80% have a spiritual foundation. That comes in many forms.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #45
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      That higher power crap is for the birds. I endulge in all kinds of vices, I’ve gotten carried away w several of them at one time or another, but you know what? When I realize it s problem and need to scale back or quit something I do!! Not cause some cheeseball steps or higher powers but because I was blessed w self control and a ability to police myself!!!
                      Nothing wrong with recognizing that powerful spiritual element that can make us humans so strong.

                      You did it without realizing it.

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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #46
                        Originally posted by The General
                        20% of people in rehab succeed and of those 20%, 80% have a spiritual foundation. That comes in many forms.
                        I’m not in rehab persay. I am in some out patient bs but it court ordered garbage. Never needed steps, groups, counsolers, sponsors, or anything of the sort to quit something when I wanted to.

                        The ppl who succeed do so cause they want to quit something and do so. I guess some ppl need that kind of crap to do so. Others like me never thrown their life away doing drugs or booze. I get in trouble cause according to them I’m addicted to the criminal lifestyle, lmfao..
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                        • The General
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 13279

                          #47
                          Sponsor steps God definitely not for everyone. I'm into spiritually but I'm no religious fanatic. I never did the sponsor step work either. I do enjoy support groups when it's a good bunch of folks.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #48
                            Originally posted by KVB
                            Nothing wrong with recognizing that powerful spiritual element that can make us humans so strong.

                            You did it without realizing it.

                            The whole premise of “admitting you are powerless over whatever” is fukkin stupid imo. I’m not powerless over anything that involves free will and/or self control.

                            Anytime my drug guy isn’t there (who super cool at least) and I get forced into the Satop alchy group I have beef w bitch who runs that class, she always on the “it a disease” bs. Cancer is a disease! I think it incredibly disrespectful to ppl w real problems to say lack of self control is a illness!! Oh and the bitch loves to say how horrible and addictive weed is, oh that pisses me off!!! Lol
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #49
                              Originally posted by The General
                              Sponsor steps God definitely not for everyone. I'm into spiritually but I'm no religious fanatic. I never did the sponsor step work either. I do enjoy support groups when it's a good bunch of folks.
                              The guy who runs my normal classes is at least super cool. Other than fact I have to go twice a week for 2-3 hours A night I don’t mind it. When he doesn’t show and sticks me in the satop group I go nuts cause that lady a serious drag!! When I was on parole the 1st time and pissed dirty for addys that guy was unbearable and I ended up telling him to fukk off and walking out. Nothing worse than a ex crack head who thinks just cause he sucked rooster for drugs they bad for everyone, lol..
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                              • The General
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 13279

                                #50
                                I'm with ya when you're right, banker. Amen.
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                                • thechaoz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-23-09
                                  • 12154

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  We all start off small occasional bet like occasion snort of coke

                                  Man this is fun real casual


                                  Now start to gamble weekends and snort coke weekends

                                  Man so easy to control and look forward to weekends

                                  Getting the edge now to bet during week because rush just not there like weekends, yeh I can snort some coke during week to for a little pop

                                  Ok now doing it daily 7 days a week, betting bigger too for the rush

                                  Powder all over my nose daily.....losing control

                                  What happened?

                                  HOOKED ON BOTH...SAME WITH WEED

                                  BE CAREFUL
                                  JJ just described my April.

                                  I'm on a self imposed detox (minus booze of course because penetrate that, I'm a scottish man). I have weed always but it's just not addicting to me, despite smoking on and off for 2 decades. I am kind of over it (hence the blow). I'm over the smell and taste it was just a fun run, but I'm strong enough to stop. Many aren't

                                  Cliff notes: Be careful, shit can go downhill real quick.
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                                  • thechaoz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-23-09
                                    • 12154

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by The General
                                    My food addiction is bad right now. It's always something.
                                    Keto makes you literally only eat for sustinance. It's crazy. I love it though.

                                    Everyone seems like a bunch of fat asses once you're on it.

                                    Ive noticed all older people is fuggin talk about food, it's really obnoxious.
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                                    • The General
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 13279

                                      #53
                                      I got a plan to get back in really good shape like starting now. Take daily pics then after meeting goal create a frame by frame diary of progress even use it to my advantage. Begin with the end in mind.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by The General
                                        I'm with ya when you're right, banker. Amen.
                                        I’m certainly not trying to down anyone that has addiction problems they can’t control and need those things to quit.

                                        As I say w religion man, whatever floats your boat. Different things work or are needed for different ppl.

                                        The important thing is if you a person that has problems w drugs/booze/gambling to where not able to control yourself and it negatively impacts your life I have way more respect for someone that seeks help and gets it than someone who doesn’t and let’s those things turn them into huge pieces of shit as I’ve seen far too often w former friends.

                                        Everyone different. Even food, you can have 2 ppl eating exact same thing for 20 years it makes one of them fat and the other not. I think The most important thing is knowing yourself and doing what you know it takes to have success in life whatever that may mean to you (again something that means totally different things to different ppl).,
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83686

                                          #55
                                          Turn to the BIG gig in the sky fellas if you got problems that you think you can't handle on your own in life. It works when you really surrender and give it up and mean it!!!

                                          Get yourself away from that addiction and run is a good first step and don't turn back. Make it not available and distance yourself from it. You hang around it you will be tempted again and again and again..


                                          Just a Runaway, don't need to be around it. Any bad addictions.. Distance yourself is the best rehab.. Temptations are a killer when you are trying to go clean..

                                          Even worse is when you experience bad times when they happen and they will are even worse for addicts that are struggling as you begin to not care in that moment and say fock it and then you relapse again and again and again.. You don't battle thru it but rather live in the moment. Addictions suck!!!

                                          You are quick to want to ease the pain by feeding that addiction when times get tough, and that is the easy way out. ...


                                          DON'T GIVE UP EVER!!!! FIGHT THE POWER!!! Draw that line!!!!


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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by The General
                                            I got a plan to get back in really good shape like starting now. Take daily pics then after meeting goal create a frame by frame diary of progress even use it to my advantage. Begin with the end in mind.
                                            One of most embarrassing things I find about myself is I have about 200 selfies on my phone which before, during, after of when I really started lifting/working out seriously! Lol. There a big gap since the 1st few years were locked up so didn’t have my phone but then I got a ton of next few years after I got out. I’ve shown few ppl and whole time I’m thinking “god banker you such a f@g”, lmao. Whatever works for you!! Gl
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                                            • sweep
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-09-10
                                              • 16753

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              We all start off small occasional bet like occasion snort of coke

                                              Man this is fun real casual


                                              Now start to gamble weekends and snort coke weekends

                                              Man so easy to control and look forward to weekends

                                              Getting the edge now to bet during week because rush just not there like weekends, yeh I can snort some coke during week to for a little pop

                                              Ok now doing it daily 7 days a week, betting bigger too for the rush

                                              Powder all over my nose daily.....losing control

                                              What happened?

                                              HOOKED ON BOTH...SAME WITH WEED

                                              BE CAREFUL
                                              Mental health the real culprit....i witnessed it first hand.
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                Turn to the BIG gig in the sky fellas if you got problems that you think you can't handle on your own in life. It works when you really surrender and give it up and mean it!!!

                                                Get yourself away from that addiction and run is a good first step and don't turn back. Make it not available and distance yourself from it. You hang around it you will be tempted again and again and again..


                                                Just a Runaway, don't need to be around it. Any bad addictions.. Distance yourself is the best rehab.. Temptations are a killer when you are trying to go clean..

                                                Even worse is when you experience bad times when they happen and they will are even worse for addicts that are struggling as you begin to not care in that moment and say fock it and then you relapse again and again and again.. You don't battle thru it and live in the moment. Addictions suck!!!

                                                You are quick to want to ease the pain by feeding that addiction when times get tough, and that is the easy way out. ... DON'T GIVE UP EVER!!!! FIGHT THE POWER!!! Draw that line!!!!
                                                Don’t use this discussion to push god Bro. I’m cool s whatever anyone chooses to believe but not cool w them pushing their beliefs on others.

                                                I rather snort a line than draw one!! I ain’t ever been the “things depressing I need drugs” type. I’m more the I’m bored, let’s party type..
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                                                • 2daBank
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-26-09
                                                  • 88966

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by sweep
                                                  Mental health the real culprit....i witnessed it first hand.
                                                  That pretty accurate in lot of cases. I always did lot of “self medicating”.,
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                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83686

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                    Don’t use this discussion to push god Bro. I’m cool s whatever anyone chooses to believe but not cool w them pushing their beliefs on others.

                                                    I rather snort a line than draw one!! I ain’t ever been the “things depressing I need drugs” type. I’m more the I’m bored, let’s party type..
                                                    I'm not one to pray on my knees all day Bankers, trust me on that. We all have free will and I actually think GOD would like us to live our own lives and blaze our own paths in life as we desire which we can do.. I see Muslims, Orthodox Jews, Devote Catholics and so many other devote religious worshipers spending the majority of their lives on their knees and praying and I think - (come on people live your lives and not as praying robots all day long!!!).. THAT IS NOT ME!!!

                                                    As far as addiction goes giving it up to a higher power works for many to get sober.. That's just fact, google it. Try going to AA or GA and take part in the steps program for going sober and a big one is giving it up to God..

                                                    That's all.. It works for many. I never had to go there myself thank GOD.. Just passing on the message on what I know that works in life for many. That's all.. Just trying to help!!
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #61
                                                      Jibbs is right.

                                                      Whether you believe in a higher power or not, it is an essential part of successful recovery programs.

                                                      It works and there are mountains of evidence showing it. It's not even an argument.

                                                      Not saying everyone needs it, but those relying on recovery are likely acknowledging they aren't in the control they thought they were.

                                                      It's a step.
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                                                      • 2daBank
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        I'm not one to pray on my knees all day Bankers, trust me on that. We all have free will and I actually think GOD would like us to live our own lives and blaze our own paths in life as we desire which we can do.. I see Muslims, Orthodox Jews and so many other devote religious worshipers spending the majority of their lives on their knees and praying and I think - (come on people live your lives and not as praying robots all day long!!!).. THAT IS NOT ME!!!

                                                        As far as addiction goes giving it up to a higher power works for many to get sober.. That's just fact, google it. Try going to AA or GA and take part in the steps program for going sober and a big one is giving it up to God..

                                                        That's all.. It works for many. I never had to go there myself thank GOD.. Just passing on the message on what I know that works in life for many. That's all.. Just trying to help!!
                                                        I don’t need to google it. I said different things work for different ppl and it clearly is what works for some.


                                                        Knowing that is true doesn’t mean I have to understand it! Cause it silly as Fukk too me but again I’m nothing but happy for ppl who need it and it works for!!! Of course it also unfathomable to me that some ppl seriously can’t learn to moderate.

                                                        When I was a kid thru early 20s I was a straight binge drinking lush, got to where at least few times a week I didn’t remember shit and had to apologize for stuff I didn’t even remember doing (god what a horrible feeling hearing how big a ass you were and not remembering any of it! Lol). So I stopped drinking for awhile, after I felt I had a handle on I started drinking socially or after work and never went past buzzed really. I can count on my fingers and toes the amount of times I been straight drunk in my 30s and never gotten to point of blackout. I can’t imganine having to totally stay away from something cause minute it touches my lips it Game over like some these ppl that been sober 10-20 years and still go to meetings and stuff.,
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                                                        • sourtwist
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-10-12
                                                          • 9364

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by JayLA
                                                          That's one difference. I really don't see how people get addicted to gambling. It's way above my head. You just like the rush. Whereas, drugs are physically addictive
                                                          As i said above

                                                          Dopamine

                                                          Learn about it, it will answer many questions
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                                                          • JayLA
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-11-12
                                                            • 7806

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by sourtwist
                                                            As i said above

                                                            Dopamine

                                                            Learn about it, it will answer many questions
                                                            Lol please. I have a degree in medicine, you?

                                                            Dopamine isnt all that gambling releases genius, are you addicted to the cortisone(cortisol) gambling releases too?

                                                            So much more to addiction than dopamine. How about you learn some?
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                                                            • The Kraken
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 12-25-11
                                                              • 28918

                                                              #65
                                                              Jay are you an MD? Whats your specialty?
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                                                              • JayLA
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-11-12
                                                                • 7806

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                Jay are you an MD? Whats your specialty?
                                                                No I don't have a doctorates. My mom does tho.

                                                                I have a bachelors degree in occupational therapy from FAU...I'm in Colombia studying a masters in a great program at Andes university about hormone therapy.

                                                                Gambling releases all kinds of hormones, depending on the person. So does thousands of things. Before people blame gambling, base jumping, shooting up heroin, or whatever... Look at your own physiology
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                                                                • The General
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 13279

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Starts out as a Hussle to earn easy money, then becomes a chase to recoup and/or a desire to prove you can do it unlike others and win at it. When 99% of gamblers lose, it's more Insanity or MH problem. We like to say entertainment, but ...
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                                                                  • flyingillini
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                                    • 41219

                                                                    #68
                                                                    JJ been a drug user for 27 years and a gambler for 25 years , I am financially stable, good life, everything is good. You just have to know how to handle it.
                                                                    המוסד‎
                                                                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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