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  • The General
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-10-05
    • 13279

    #1
    Thought I could make a career wagering on horses
    Back in the day. I was so naive & ignorant. I'm dumb today. How stupid I was then. Seeking a positive outcome with a negative plan of attack.
  • MC PICKS
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-10-10
    • 6644

    #2
    The track hold makes it nearly impossible, toughest game out there to beat.
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      TheShrink was a degenerate horse guy also... you followed the wrong footsteps
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      • str
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-12-09
        • 11710

        #4
        It is for 99.5% of people, a miserable existence.

        The hours you must put in.

        The per hour payoff breakdown is not worth it for most.

        No family life and forget having kids.

        It can be done, but at what price?
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        • The General
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-10-05
          • 13279

          #5
          Me and Ken nailed a 40k DD one morning. Like kids in a candy store. Ken punched it in wrong and Henry said he'd pay us but we'd never bet there again. We stayed but Henry was wrong that time. What a paradigm shift.
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          • MC PICKS
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-10-10
            • 6644

            #6
            Contests are the way to go , big money potential, small risk as most contests are 200-500 to enter. Was pissed when they took this show off the air.

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            • MC PICKS
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-10-10
              • 6644

              #7
              Originally posted by ** PICKS
              Contests are the way to go , big money potential, small risk as most contests are 200-500 to enter. Was pissed when they took this show off the air.

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              • MC PICKS
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-10-10
                • 6644

                #8
                Was pissed too when they cancelled this show after season 1, cancelled cause horses were dying during shoots, they could have computer generated the races and kept the show going.

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                • MadTiger
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-19-09
                  • 2724

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ** PICKS
                  Was pissed too when they cancelled this show after season 1, cancelled cause horses were dying during shoots, they could have computer generated the races and kept the show going.

                  I loved this show. It was sad that it was cancelled, because they had multiple storylines to pursue.
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                  • MC PICKS
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-10-10
                    • 6644

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MadTiger
                    I loved this show. It was sad that it was cancelled, because they had multiple storylines to pursue.
                    Yep
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                    • biggie12
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-30-05
                      • 13788

                      #11
                      Originally posted by str
                      It is for 99.5% of people, a miserable existence.

                      The hours you must put in.

                      The per hour payoff breakdown is not worth it for most.

                      No family life and forget having kids.

                      It can be done, but at what price?
                      end thread
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Broke bums play horses with a regularity

                        all old cars in parking lots and every guy banged up
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                        • big joe 1212
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-01-08
                          • 19380

                          #13
                          Belmont and Aqueduct

                          70% Jamaicans
                          20% Mexicans
                          10% old White guys

                          Love people watching when horses come down the stretch. Guys whipping themselves with programs, leaning thinking it will help the horse win with the new angle, screaming like crazy about to lose a lung. All over $1 exactas and 10 cent superfectas
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                          • biggie12
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-30-05
                            • 13788

                            #14
                            Originally posted by big joe 1212
                            Belmont and Aqueduct

                            70% Jamaicans
                            20% Mexicans
                            10% old White guys

                            Love people watching when horses come down the stretch. Guys whipping themselves with programs, leaning thinking it will help the horse win with the new angle, screaming like crazy about to lose a lung. All over $1 exactas and 10 cent superfectas
                            aint nothing better then a jamacian yelling in patois "rasclat bambaklat move dem pussyclat.
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                            • gauchojake
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-17-10
                              • 34109

                              #15
                              Wow
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                              • MC PICKS
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-10-10
                                • 6644

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Broke bums play horses with a regularity

                                all old cars in parking lots and every guy banged up
                                Unless I make a spot bet if I go to the track (which is rare now) or play a full card on TVG, if I break even im happy cause I spent nothing for 4 hours of entertainment.
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-04-11
                                  • 37254

                                  #17
                                  **, u are one hell of a guy. You should go Pro.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                  • The General
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 13279

                                    #18
                                    I'm aiming for late June or July to go SBR pro. Hoping to have a bill to dispose of by then. Time will tell. Who am I kidding, I just hope to have a bill by then.
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                                    • SlickFazzer
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-22-08
                                      • 20209

                                      #19
                                      I love the passion of people considering gambling professionally.

                                      Its motivating.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        your a 10x loser if you bet horses
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 04-04-11
                                          • 37254

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          Broke bums play horses with a regularity

                                          all old cars in parking lots and every guy banged up
                                          What a line. That should be SBR motto.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-30-08
                                            • 81450

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Broke bums play horses with a regularity

                                            all old cars in parking lots and every guy banged up
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                                            • Easy-Rider 66
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                                              • 02-14-12
                                              • 36097

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              your a 10x loser if you bet horses
                                              Not if you are a shark Playing and winning tournaments.
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                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                • 04-04-11
                                                • 37254

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The General
                                                I'm aiming for late June or July to go SBR pro. Hoping to have a bill to dispose of by then. Time will tell. Who am I kidding, I just hope to have a bill by then.
                                                General, this could be the year where everything comes together.

                                                I've always dreamt of hitting a piece of the KY Derby super-fecta. How nice would that be? We hit it so clean that they invite US into the Winners' Circle.

                                                SBR, where dreams are made.
                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                  • 02-14-12
                                                  • 36097

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ** PICKS;28550066[B
                                                  ]Contests are the way to go , big money potential, small risk as most contests are 200-500 to enter. Was pissed when they took this show off the air.[/B]

                                                  Agreed, but on theses major league contests you can win your way in for a lot less by playing qualifiers.
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                                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 04-04-11
                                                    • 37254

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                    Not if you are a shark Playing and winning tournaments.
                                                    Tell him, EZ Rider. JJ has been a negative bum for years.

                                                    Don't let HIS lack of talent slow down the rest of us.
                                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                      • 52143

                                                      #27
                                                      It’s cuz JJ can’t read a racing form
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                                                      • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                        • 02-14-12
                                                        • 36097

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                        Tell him, EZ Rider. JJ has been a negative bum for years.

                                                        Don't let HIS lack of talent slow down the rest of us.
                                                        LOL. Wish I could claim to be one of the sharks but no go. But all kidding aside really think tourneys are the way to go. Average hold on horse tourneys is 11.5%.
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                                                        • eaglesfan371
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-08-19
                                                          • 4079

                                                          #29
                                                          15-20% take by racetrack, basically impossible to win. Plus, the losing money will not equal much...it is not like you have old guys betting 1k a pop per race...its a dying industry.

                                                          Also "hit 40k on a DD once". You made that sound like thats a dream amount. 40k? That would cover my annual bills here outside of DC. That would not last more than 9 months in California.

                                                          There is no career path with professional gambling. If you do it and then try to go get a real job, you get laughed at in over 50% of interviews. The rare time someone will move you on to next round is if they are a degenerate themselves and your "I traveled and gambled for a living" hit a soft spot of their own delusions of grandeur.

                                                          So many people have this delusion of grandeur around gambling. Even if you win, you likely are miserable. Whenever i read that someone quit their job to play poker for a living (most common), I feel bad for them. They will regret it, 99/100 will. Sure, early 2000s TONS of fish and free money to be made in poker. Now? Heck no. 8/10 players at a NLHE game these days have at least a solid clue of how to play.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Eagles is right don’t ever waste your time

                                                            no such thing in anyone else says they’re doing it’s a liar unless risk free scalping
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                                                            • Easy-Rider 66
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-14-12
                                                              • 36097

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                              15-20% take by racetrack, basically impossible to win. Plus, the losing money will not equal much...it is not like you have old guys betting 1k a pop per race...its a dying industry.

                                                              Also "hit 40k on a DD once". You made that sound like thats a dream amount. 40k? That would cover my annual bills here outside of DC. That would not last more than 9 months in California.

                                                              There is no career path with professional gambling. If you do it and then try to go get a real job, you get laughed at in over 50% of interviews. The rare time someone will move you on to next round is if they are a degenerate themselves and your "I traveled and gambled for a living" hit a soft spot of their own delusions of grandeur.

                                                              So many people have this delusion of grandeur around gambling. Even if you win, you likely are miserable.
                                                              Agreed to sum it up Prof Gambler is a PIPE DREAM.
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 04-04-11
                                                                • 37254

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                                LOL. Wish I could claim to be one of the sharks but no go. But all kidding aside really think tourneys are the way to go. Average hold on horse tourneys is 11.5%.
                                                                That's good info. When u look at the vig attached to different gaming arenas, it's outrageous:

                                                                * Horses. 18 to 20%.
                                                                * Poker Tournaments. Often 30% + sometimes even more when u consider Dealer Add-on, which adds nothing to the prize pool.
                                                                * Sports Betting 4-team parlays. Pays 10/1 in Vegas, when it should be 15/1. That's 31.5% vig.
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • eaglesfan371
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-08-19
                                                                  • 4079

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                  That's good info. When u look at the vig attached to different gaming arenas, it's outrageous:

                                                                  * Horses. 18 to 20%.
                                                                  * Poker Tournaments. Often 30% + sometimes even more when u consider Dealer Add-on, which adds nothing to the prize pool.
                                                                  * Sports Betting 4-team parlays. Pays 10/1 in Vegas, when it should be 15/1. That's 31.5% vig.
                                                                  Don't forget the wonderful taxman who takes 10-40% of gambling revenue AND an additional 25% of anyone who actually wins a decent amount gambling.

                                                                  The taxman is the one that really bothers me. I understand taxes need to be made, but you're already taxing the casino revenue. No other country that I am aware of (Canada and europe) charges tax on personal gambling winnings.
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                                                                  • big joe 1212
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 06-01-08
                                                                    • 19380

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Nothing wrong with betting ponies for entertainment. As long as your not expecting to win
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                                                                    • The General
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                                      • 13279

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Good posts, men. But, what about all the emails I get from people who state they gamble for a living and want to share the knowledge for a small fee?
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