Brad Stevens. Nobody ever has coached up mediocre talent better.

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  • DOM-Ganador
    SBR MVP
    • 05-30-12
    • 4479

    #1
    Brad Stevens. Nobody ever has coached up mediocre talent better.
    BUT, winning and beating great teams mean you actually have to get the most out of stars and superstars.
    This season, with his best roster ever, and expectations of 60+ wins, he shit the bed.

    I still think he is a good coach. He is young, stable and calm.
    Great X and Os guy.
    I don`t even think there is a better coach available.

    Tonight, he brought the "C" team into Bullet country as 5 point dogs and spanked the home town team by 12 in the fourth for a nice W. They dressed like 9 guys, ZERO starters.

    I guess we will find out if they are as good as they think they are???
  • The General
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-10-05
    • 13279

    #2
    Great coach and person. Highly respected.
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    • ThaTopMoron
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      • 04-30-10
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      #3
      you big br guys need to slam the Celtics in game 1 vs Pacers and their 18-22 road record... falling short at the end of the season in clutch games when they had a shot to get HFA
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388189

        #4
        Boston not winning anything
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94367

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Boston not winning anything
          Only one team wins something
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          • goduke
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-17-10
            • 11580

            #6
            He’s great at coaching players that listen. Unfortunately in the nba though the star players don’t listen. Kyrie is a big reason Brad has regressed as a coach.
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            • asiagambler
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-23-17
              • 6831

              #7
              I don't disagree but the Wizards have basically been playing their C lineup for quite some time now. Beal's been playing but on a minutes limit. Did you see their closing lineup against the Knicks? This is a proper tank.

              Ian Mahinmi, Devin Robinson, Chasson Randle, Sam Dekker, Troy Brown

              Played the entire 4th quarter. Same tonight except Jeff Green in for the injured Brown.
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              • IBetYou
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-03-15
                • 8149

                #8
                Originally posted by asiagambler
                I don't disagree but the Wizards have basically been playing their C lineup for quite some time now. Beal's been playing but on a minutes limit. Did you see their closing lineup against the Knicks? This is a proper tank.

                Ian Mahinmi, Devin Robinson, Chasson Randle, Sam Dekker, Troy Brown

                Played the entire 4th quarter. Same tonight except Jeff Green in for the injured Brown.
                Exactly. Celtics were supposed to win, they had the better team. Wannamaker is better than Randle, Hunter is better than Robinson. That Wizards lineup might have been the worst I have ever since in an NBA game.
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                • asiagambler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6831

                  #9
                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                  Exactly. Celtics were supposed to win, they had the better team. Wannamaker is better than Randle, Hunter is better than Robinson. That Wizards lineup might have been the worst I have ever since in an NBA game.
                  I was going to say the Bulls' recent lineup was worse but they beat these Wizards!
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388189

                    #10
                    Originally posted by goduke
                    He’s great at coaching players that listen. Unfortunately in the nba though the star players don’t listen. Kyrie is a big reason Brad has regressed as a coach.

                    end of thread

                    Kyrie destroyed Boston
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                    • BuckyOne
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-02-15
                      • 2728

                      #11
                      Who cares? NBA season is too long. You get all these worthless games and 8 too many teams in the playoffs. The minute the sweet 16 got done the playoffs could have started that Monday. Work around the final 4 and no worthless games from Thursday to Sunday during the Sweet 16. Last game of the season could be Tuesday before.
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                      • hankcream
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-30-10
                        • 2048

                        #12
                        Milwaukee will probably sweep them in the 2nd round and the Bucks only have 1 max contract player and no lottery picks. Boston has 3 max contract players and 2 lottery picks
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                        • teecee
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-18-09
                          • 6295

                          #13
                          "Experts" look at the players on a team, assess their talent and say they should win 60+ games. The players fall short of the number and instead of "experts" saying 'I was wrong,' they/we blame the coach.
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                          • mikejamm
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-24-09
                            • 11034

                            #14
                            I totally agree. Brad a great motivator and excellent coach for the talent he has. Really difficult in today's NBA to get a bunch of millionaire players to go out there and give their best night after night, this guy finds a way to do it.
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                            • bigtymer56
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-31-12
                              • 4742

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mikejamm
                              I totally agree. Brad a great motivator and excellent coach for the talent he has. Really difficult in today's NBA to get a bunch of millionaire players to go out there and give their best night after night, this guy finds a way to do it.
                              Lol, everybody shits on these athletes for not giving a damn, meanwhile knowing that if they made a quarter of what these guys are getting they would never work another day in their lives.
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                              • kingdom
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-25-10
                                • 10099

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                BUT, winning and beating great teams mean you actually have to get the most out of stars and superstars.
                                This season, with his best roster ever, and expectations of 60+ wins, he shit the bed.

                                I still think he is a good coach. He is young, stable and calm.
                                Great X and Os guy.
                                I don`t even think there is a better coach available.

                                Tonight, he brought the "C" team into Bullet country as 5 point dogs and spanked the home town team by 12 in the fourth for a nice W. They dressed like 9 guys, ZERO starters.

                                I guess we will find out if they are as good as they think they are???
                                extremely unimpressive at managing the talent on this team this season. problems still don't seem solved. phil jackson is a true example of a great coach that coaches great talent well. bulls better after he got there. saved the lakers twice. maybe phil makes one last run with lakers? if he wanted to coach again he could fix the lakers almost immediately. celtics somehow won with i.t. as best player but can't win with kyrie. clippers, spurs, and indiana are one game behind celts on teams without a heavy talented core at all.
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                                • Mr KLC
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                                  • 12-19-07
                                  • 30995

                                  #17
                                  Kyrie Irving (23.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 6.9 apg) this season became the first Celtics player to average at least 23 points, 5 rebounds and 6 assists over an entire season since Larry Bird in 1989-90
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                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 13024

                                    #18
                                    I really like Stevens but he hasn’t won shit at any level. Being runner up in March Madness 2x is still not winning.
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                                    • DOM-Ganador
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-30-12
                                      • 4479

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                      Kyrie Irving (23.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 6.9 apg) this season became the first Celtics player to average at least 23 points, 5 rebounds and 6 assists over an entire season since Larry Bird in 1989-90
                                      OK, Kyrie has had a fine statistical year. No doubt. So has Westbrook the last 3 years.
                                      As the highest paid veteran self described superstar on their team, I for one would like them both to take a little more interest in helping the younger players be better.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #20
                                        most starters have good stats now

                                        scores super high

                                        no defense
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                                        • 2daBank
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                          I really like Stevens but he hasn’t won shit at any level. Being runner up in March Madness 2x is still not winning.
                                          At Butler it is.
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                                          • 2daBank
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-26-09
                                            • 88966

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bigtymer56
                                            Lol, everybody shits on these athletes for not giving a damn, meanwhile knowing that if they made a quarter of what these guys are getting they would never work another day in their lives.
                                            Playing hoops not exactly “work”.
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                                            • The Kraken
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                                              • 12-25-11
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                                              #23
                                              Plenty of coaches have gotten more of out lesser players.

                                              Stevens isn’t grtting anywhere near the most out of that team, and thats on him.

                                              Pops is getting a ton more out of the Spurs this year with way less talent, C’s are loaded with talent. The Clippers are a terrible squad on paper but Tivers has them in the playoffs, impressive feat.

                                              Stevens gets a B-, maybe c+
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                                              • Mr KLC
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                                                • 12-19-07
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                                                #24
                                                Per sources, Marcus Smart was to undergo an MRI yesterday but the pain was too severe. He had one this afternoon instead that revealed a significant oblique injury. Return timeline is unclear, but he is expected to miss at least the first round of the playoffs.
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                                                • ThaTopMoron
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                                                  • 04-30-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                  you big br guys need to slam the Celtics in game 1 vs Pacers and their 18-22 road record... falling short at the end of the season in clutch games when they had a shot to get HFA
                                                  Boston scores only 84 but indeed they won and covered a spread of 8... amazing 2h opportunity to slam Boston even more down just 7 at half

                                                  and of course.... OKC loses game 1 even though they ended up only losing by 5. OKC still a perfect team to fade in 1st half
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #26
                                                    good win
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                                                    • teecee
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-18-09
                                                      • 6295

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                      Plenty of coaches have gotten more of out lesser players.

                                                      Stevens isn’t grtting anywhere near the most out of that team, and thats on him.

                                                      Pops is getting a ton more out of the Spurs this year with way less talent, C’s are loaded with talent. The Clippers are a terrible squad on paper but Tivers has them in the playoffs, impressive feat.

                                                      Stevens gets a B-, maybe c+
                                                      Okay. What % of that responsibility lands on the heads of the people actually playing?
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