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  • ikid2groove415
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-08-18
    • 11981

    #1
    ———Baltimore Orioles will be giving out free money Again in 2019!!!
    I expect 116 plus lost - Pay the juice fellas !!!
  • MickeyMan
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-20-09
    • 5091

    #2
    Welcome back my illiterate friend.

    -Gauchojake
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    • allabout the $$$
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-17-10
      • 9843

      #3
      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
      I expect 116 plus lost - Pay the juice fellas !!!
      and the 55 they win where the fave is -200 most of the time will even it all out.

      yankees were -350-400 today they have to win 1 of those games and it will happen you need 3 or 4 wins to make up the loss
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      • eaglesfan371
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-19
        • 4079

        #4
        Favs will likely be overjuiced. For a profitable following of a team, you want to find a team predicted to make the offseason, that you think will never make it and fade them. Or a team that is predicted to do awful that you think will do great.
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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #5
          Last year, I have Balty at 47-115 and if you bet the same unit on them every game you would have lost more than 50 units, depending on the line, and show an ROI in the low -30%

          What about the fade?

          If you had gone against Balty every game last year betting the same unit, you would be up about 30 units with close to 19% ROI.

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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #6
            Originally posted by KVB
            Last year, I have Balty at 47-115 and if you bet the same unit on them every game you would have lost more than 50 units, depending on the line, and show an ROI in the low -30%

            What about the fade?

            If you had gone against Balty every game last year betting the same unit, you would be up about 30 units with close to 19% ROI.

            They thought of even worse this year than they were at least the beginning of last year as you could see with today’s line. It be way too pricey for me to attempt fading them.
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            • TommieGunshot
              SBR MVP
              • 03-27-12
              • 1604

              #7
              Bet them under 59.5 and 59.
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              • krk1030
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-08
                • 17610

                #8
                Go run line against them.
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                • juicername
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-14-15
                  • 6906

                  #9
                  Fade was indeed very profitably last year. You would think the books would adapt to how awfult they are this season though.

                  on / against:
                  -$5,394 / +$4,707
                  ROI: -31.9% / +17.1%
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                  • Fred The Hammer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-13-13
                    • 11581

                    #10
                    Originally posted by krk1030
                    Go run line against them.
                    Atleast on the road. I'm not a huge RL player anyway...but def not when they get 27 outs to your 24.
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #11
                      Originally posted by juicername
                      Fade was indeed very profitably last year. You would think the books would adapt to how awfult they are this season though.

                      on / against:
                      -$5,394 / +$4,707
                      ROI: -31.9% / +17.1%
                      You can pretty much be assured if they have similarly terrible record it won’t be nearly as profitable.
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                      • sweethook
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-21-07
                        • 12667

                        #12
                        love it , gl sir.
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                        • Jeff_Black
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-04-15
                          • 3571

                          #13
                          I've been tempted to bet these ones like against the Yankees overs when they are 8.5 like they were the other day but wouldn't mind seeing how some of these guys go.

                          I remember Bundy had an ok start last year and got some good value out of him at times at ML and RL.
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                          • beavis13
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-18-14
                            • 2823

                            #14
                            Just parlay them and whoever is playing the Giants every time.
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by krk1030
                              Go run line against them.
                              Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                              Atleast on the road. I'm not a huge RL player anyway...but def not when they get 27 outs to your 24.
                              In 2018 I have Balty going 68-94 against the runline and betting the same unit on them each game would have left you down about -27.5 units, about -17% ROI, depending on the line.

                              Betting the same unit on each fade of that would have netted about +22 units with about 13.5% ROI.

                              Fading the runline when Balty was on the road was responsible for +19 of the +22 units; about 23% ROI and a 49-32 record.

                              Fading the Balty run line at home still went 45-36, about +3 units and about 4% ROI.

                              In my opinion, if Balty is even close to as bad this year as they were last year, there should still be profit, although eroded, left in both ML and RL fades.

                              I think it can be mitigated by making sure the line is bought early but even that effect will erode as the season progresses.

                              But if Balty goes on a win streak or two, along with the market adjusting, the profit on the fade could disappear quick.

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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beavis13
                                Just parlay them and whoever is playing the Giants every time.
                                Giants were crazy last year.

                                If you had bet the same unit on the moneyline every game you would have been up nearly +8 units on August 31st.

                                By September 30th, you would have been down more the -7 units.

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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #17
                                  lol...

                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                  Contrarian Fund...

                                  915 30-Mar BAL +306
                                  Oh boy, here we go, Balty going to suck the like out of the Fund...
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                                  • ikid2groove415
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-08-18
                                    • 11981

                                    #18
                                    Run line boys - every dam game -1.5
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                                    • slayer14
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-12-13
                                      • 22010

                                      #19
                                      Yanks gonna lose here?
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        And just like that gonna have big hole to dig out of.
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                                        • Fred The Hammer
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-13-13
                                          • 11581

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          lol...



                                          +306 is a bad line. If you play huge dogs then get it 5 min before the 1st pitch after Joe Square pounds the "sure thing". I see +325 to +335
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                                          • krk1030
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-13-08
                                            • 17610

                                            #22
                                            Yankeees were on top of the world for a day and a half.

                                            Nice easy win looked good.

                                            Sox get crushed.

                                            Sox getting crushed again....then they come back and win and the Yankees get embarrassed by Baltimore.

                                            Same old bums.
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                                            • krk1030
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-13-08
                                              • 17610

                                              #23
                                              Here come the Yankees lol
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63167

                                                #24
                                                thanks KVB

                                                GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win
                                                Ticket#:4123975
                                                Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB
                                                STRAIGHT BET
                                                [915] BAL +304
                                                ( ACTION )
                                                60.00 / 182.40
                                                Ticket#:4123976
                                                Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB
                                                STRAIGHT BET
                                                [915] BAL +1½+148
                                                ( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )
                                                70.00 / 103.60
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 52006

                                                  #25
                                                  took out about 90% of the survivor pool contest too
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 52006

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                    thanks KVB

                                                    GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win
                                                    Ticket#:4123975
                                                    Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                    Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
                                                    [915] BAL +304
                                                    ( ACTION )
                                                    60.00 / 182.40
                                                    Ticket#:4123976
                                                    Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                    Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
                                                    [915] BAL +1½+148
                                                    ( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )
                                                    70.00 / 103.60
                                                    Nice job Archie

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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Never make money chasing favorites
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                                                      • Fred The Hammer
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-13-13
                                                        • 11581

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Never make money chasing favorites
                                                        Yep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                          +306 is a bad line. If you play huge dogs then get it 5 min before the 1st pitch after Joe Square pounds the "sure thing". I see +325 to +335
                                                          Yeah started buying at +306 and +318 and finished the position out with some 330's. The line jumped right after I started buying.

                                                          Didn't mid buying into the pressure as I was happy with anything better than +300.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                            thanks KVB

                                                            GameDate Date Placed Sport Description Risk/Win
                                                            Ticket#:4123975
                                                            Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                            Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
                                                            [915] BAL +304
                                                            ( ACTION )
                                                            60.00 / 182.40
                                                            Ticket#:4123976
                                                            Mar 30 01:05 PM
                                                            Mar 30 12:56 PM MLB STRAIGHT BET
                                                            [915] BAL +1½+148
                                                            ( N KARNS -R / J PAXTON -L )
                                                            70.00 / 103.60
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                              Yep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.
                                                              There just no point in it for me. I’m pretty confident I can bang out the percentage it takes to do well w dogs and totals, I know I can’t hit at a clip high enough to win with favs priced above -140.
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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #32
                                                                Talked all this shit about fading Balty on ML and RL then turned around and bought the +300.

                                                                The Contrarian Fund is full of surprises.

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                                                                • BigDofBA
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-30-09
                                                                  • 19313

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                                                  Yep. Once in a while I'll play -175 or something, but its usually late in the year when its a decent pitcher/team against someone thats just mailing it in.
                                                                  I don’t shy away from laying juice every once in a while. You don’t want to make a living playing every -175 line but every now and then it’s ok.

                                                                  Faves win a lot too.

                                                                  It seems trendy around here to play a lot of dogs in baseball. I like it, but you have to be able to got faves too.

                                                                  I will say if you’re losing and need a winner, going larger than normal on a -175 play when you need it never seems to work out. I usually make these plays when I’m in a rhythm and on a good streak.
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                                                                  • krk1030
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-13-08
                                                                    • 17610

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Stayed away today cause of the opener bullshit.

                                                                    For some reason always gives the yankees problems..at least with Tampa it did.
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                                                                    • ikid2groove415
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                                      • 11981

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Baltimore wasn’t Going 0-162 -
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