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  • mdunlap3
    SBR MVP
    • 02-18-13
    • 1847

    #1
    Pats +3.5(-120)
    Not sure how long this is going to last, so if you like it, I would get it just in case. Also seeing +3(EV), which I like too, might add a smaller play to this as well. Either way, I’m going very large on the 3.5 (-120). Think it should be more like 3.5(-145) or so, some definite value in my eyes at this price. Thoughts?
  • BigdaddyQH
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-13-09
    • 19530

    #2
    It's the going rate, so if you think the Pats can cover, go for it. Nothing special there. Apparently Vegas does not agree with your (-145) theory just yet.
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    • INVEGA MAN
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      • 01-30-08
      • 6792

      #3
      Love KC!!
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      • funnyb25
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 07-09-09
        • 39659

        #4
        Tom and Bill vs. Reid in the playoffs.....Seems like a no-brainer.
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        • looneytunes67
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          • 12-17-18
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          #5
          Originally posted by mdunlap3
          Not sure how long this is going to last, so if you like it, I would get it just in case. Also seeing +3(EV), which I like too, might add a smaller play to this as well. Either way, I’m going very large on the 3.5 (-120). Think it should be more like 3.5(-145) or so, some definite value in my eyes at this price. Thoughts?

          Curious if you would mind sharing what "very large" is?
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          • Pinoy-T-X
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            • 10-28-12
            • 2176

            #6
            I think NE will be up by a FG in the final seconds, then instead of KC going for a tie for OT, they go for it and score a TD. And covering the spread winning by 4 points.
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            • thomorino
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              • 06-01-17
              • 45842

              #7
              3 point underdogs that cover the spread when straight up 90% of the time, if you like the Pats you have to believe they will likely win the game, the value long-term is on the moneyline.
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              • DJK
                SBR MVP
                • 01-17-11
                • 2421

                #8
                Originally posted by thomorino
                3 point underdogs that cover the spread when straight up 90% of the time, if you like the Pats you have to believe they will likely win the game, the value long-term is on the moneyline.
                Wow, another bullshit from a bullshitter.

                Fuk off
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                • thomorino
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                  • 06-01-17
                  • 45842

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DJK

                  Wow, another bullshit from a bullshitter.

                  Fuk off
                  Fuk off
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                  • hotcross
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                    • 08-04-17
                    • 7934

                    #10
                    Actually might be the first thing he's ever said right
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                    • thomorino
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                      • 06-01-17
                      • 45842

                      #11
                      Originally posted by hotcross
                      Actually might be the first thing he's ever said right
                      Fuk off
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                      • hotcross
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                        • 08-04-17
                        • 7934

                        #12
                        You can only fuk off everyone in the threads YOU create thomorino

                        Therefore I have immunity in this thread
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                        • thomorino
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                          • 06-01-17
                          • 45842

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hotcross
                          You can only fuk off everyone in the threads YOU create thomorino

                          Therefore I have immunity in this thread
                          Fuk off
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                          • aston
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-05-08
                            • 1185

                            #14
                            your correct morino
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                            • thomorino
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                              • 06-01-17
                              • 45842

                              #15
                              Originally posted by aston
                              your correct morino
                              Yeah can't believe their are bettors arguing this point
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                              • mdunlap3
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-18-13
                                • 1847

                                #16
                                Originally posted by funnyb25
                                Tom and Bill vs. Reid in the playoffs.....Seems like a no-brainer.
                                Thx bra. You on em as well?
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                                • mdunlap3
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-18-13
                                  • 1847

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by looneytunes67

                                  Curious if you would mind sharing what "very large" is?
                                  5 units.
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                                  • mdunlap3
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-18-13
                                    • 1847

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                    It's the going rate, so if you think the Pats can cover, go for it. Nothing special there. Apparently Vegas does not agree with your (-145) theory just yet.
                                    Yeah. I’ll be honest the line move kind of worries me because it takes a LOT to move from 3 to 3.5, more than any number in football. Lots of times even if huge sharp amounts come in at -3, they will just add juice to -3, not move to 3.5. And the public has not moved the line on Thursday, some heavy hitters had to of come in on KC.
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                                    • ikid2groove415
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-08-18
                                      • 11981

                                      #19
                                      Take the team with better offense/defense and at home - usually when New England lose its on the road - they do not play with the same mojo away from Foxboro
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                                      • DJK
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 2421

                                        #20
                                        Screw the straight bets with these tight lines.

                                        Taking a teaser of 7 points for New Orleans +3.5 and New England +10 for 1K to win $714. Sure, crossing zero is not a good bet with the teasers, but it's not New Orleans I'm worried about but New England, who has not lost by more than 10 in away conference championship games. KC does not have Denver's D, so I don't see NE losing by more than 10 IF they lose. Honestly, I think NE wins SU.

                                        The NO's opening line of -3.5 tells me they are more likely to win SU than lose, so basically I'm getting points for NE.

                                        New Orleans wins SU, so I'm not worried about there.
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                                        • ikid2groove415
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-08-18
                                          • 11981

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DJK
                                          Screw the straight bets with these tight lines.

                                          Taking a teaser of 7 points for New Orleans +3.5 and New England +10 for 1K to win $714. Sure, crossing zero is not a good bet with the teasers, but it's not New Orleans I'm worried about but New England, who has not lost by more than 10 in away conference championship games. KC does not have Denver's D, so I don't see NE losing by more than 10 IF they lose. Honestly, I think NE wins SU.

                                          The NO's opening line of -3.5 tells me they are more likely to win SU than lose, so basically I'm getting points for NE.

                                          New Orleans wins SU, so I'm not worried about there.
                                          Saints offense have not been the same since they play Dallas -
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                                          • DJK
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 2421

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by mdunlap3
                                            Yeah. I’ll be honest the line move kind of worries me because it takes a LOT to move from 3 to 3.5, more than any number in football. Lots of times even if huge sharp amounts come in at -3, they will just add juice to -3, not move to 3.5. And the public has not moved the line on Thursday, some heavy hitters had to of come in on KC.
                                            Are you saying KC's line moved to -3.5 at some point on Thursday?

                                            If you are referring to Caesars Palace's blip to -3.5 at 1:51:42 PM today, then I wouldn't worry about it since I think Caesars draw the most square players so it could be a good thing.


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                                            • DJK
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 2421

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                              Saints offense have not been the same since they play Dallas -
                                              The Rams beat Dallas, who can't play for shit away from their dome. Usually, whatever happened in the first game does not happen in the 2nd game, but in this case it will no questions asked.

                                              Seriously? You can't compare idiot Dak to Drew. Maybe if Drew played for Dallas, then Dallas would be in the Conference Championship game.

                                              I hate to say this, but it's the Super Bowl of the old folks; Brady and Drew both over 40's and the one who's just a tad younger wins it all.
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                                              • ikid2groove415
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-08-18
                                                • 11981

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DJK
                                                The Rams beat Dallas, who can't play for shit away from their dome. Usually, whatever happened in the first game does not happen in the 2nd game, but in this case it will no questions asked.

                                                Seriously? You can't compare idiot Dak to Drew. Maybe if Drew played for Dallas, then Dallas would be in the Conference Championship game.

                                                I hate to say this, but it's the Super Bowl of the old folks; Brady and Drew both over 40's and the one who's just a tad younger wins it all.
                                                Not sure why you bring up Dak? I’m talking about the Dallas defense - and they show the blue print - 2 slow down the saints offense
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                                                • thomorino
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                                                  • 06-01-17
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                  Not sure why you bring up Dak? I’m talking about the Dallas defense - and they show the blue print - 2 slow down the saints offense
                                                  The problem is the Rams don't have Dallas's linebackers, the Rams linebackers are horrible in coverage, the Saints do so much with short and intermediate route with Kamara and others.
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                                                  • DJK
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 2421

                                                    #26
                                                    Something else siding with my bet is this.

                                                    Stupid ass ESPN's Insider PickCenter is picking both the Rams and the Chiefs; ATS and ML. They aren't always wrong, but more wrong than right.

                                                    Had I followed their ATS picks, I probably lost my socks off.
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                                                    • DJK
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 2421

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                      Not sure why you bring up Dak? I’m talking about the Dallas defense - and they show the blue print - 2 slow down the saints offense
                                                      Seriously? You think it's whatever the defensive strategy that Dallas used that made NO lose and the Rams are going to do the same? It's possible since Wade Phillips is smart and he can come up with a good plan.

                                                      But it doesn't matter.

                                                      The only reason NO lost against Dallas was that they had a great rush game and prevented Drew from having time to make his throws. If he didn't make that pick right near the end of the game, NO won that game.

                                                      Drew is at home and not in Dallas or Los Angeles.

                                                      The way how NO came back and won their game against the hottest NFC team at the time is what's going to make them win the Conference Championship game.

                                                      The Rams beating the hapless Cowgirls does NOT count.
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                                                      • ikid2groove415
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-08-18
                                                        • 11981

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by thomorino
                                                        The problem is the Rams don't have Dallas's linebackers, the Rams linebackers are horrible in coverage, the Saints do so much with short and intermediate route with Kamara and others.
                                                        I think the most underrated thing people aren’t talking about is the saints defense - mcvay got them worry about the run because of how successful they were last week vs Dallas - I believe saints win if they can contain the ground game - Goff ain’t beating them
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                                                        • ikid2groove415
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-08-18
                                                          • 11981

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DJK
                                                          Seriously? You think it's whatever the defensive strategy that Dallas used that made NO lose and the Rams are going to do the same? It's possible since Wade Phillips is smart and he can come up with a good plan.

                                                          But it doesn't matter.

                                                          The only reason NO lost against Dallas was that they had a great rush game and prevented Drew from having time to make his throws. If he didn't make that pick right near the end of the game, NO won that game.

                                                          Drew is at home and not in Dallas or Los Angeles.

                                                          The way how NO came back and won their game against the hottest NFC team at the time is what's going to make them win the Conference Championship game.

                                                          The Rams beating the hapless Cowgirls do NOT count.
                                                          They were at home last week 2- sure I know the eagles was hot and there defense is better then the rams
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                                                          • DJK
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 2421

                                                            #30
                                                            In the end, I will be watching two tweets.

                                                            Whichever side the money is bet lop-sided, I'm going the other way even if I have to flip both of m picks.

                                                            If it's anything <= 59%, then I may stick with my picks but anything higher, I'm going the other way.


                                                            Two tweets that I follows are:

                                                            David Payne Purdum and Jason Simbal
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                                                            • ikid2groove415
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-08-18
                                                              • 11981

                                                              #31
                                                              I don’t care what anyone says - cowboys was caught off guard last Saturday - they weren’t prepare for the rams ground game - was expecting a passing game
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                                                              • DJK
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 2421

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                I don’t care what anyone says - cowboys was caught off guard last Saturday - they weren’t prepare for the rams ground game - was expecting a passing game
                                                                So the Cowgirls' defensive coordinator was an idiot.
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                                                                • DJK
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 2421

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                  I don’t care what anyone says - cowboys was caught off guard last Saturday - they weren’t prepare for the rams ground game - was expecting a passing game
                                                                  If any of the other remaining QB's in the Divisional round was playing for Dallas, then they are still alive in the playoffs.

                                                                  Screw Dak with the big contract. Dallas is making a mistake.
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                                                                  • ikid2groove415
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-08-18
                                                                    • 11981

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DJK
                                                                    If any of the other remaining QB's in the Divisional round was playing for Dallas, then they are still alive in the playoffs.

                                                                    Screw Dak with the big contract. Dallas is making a mistake.
                                                                    Laughable - Goff is average at best
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                                                                    • ikid2groove415
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                                      • 11981

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Mcvay is like 1 of the best offensive minds in the NFL- he’s light years better then garret- Dak might not put up tremendous stats but he makes play in critical moments and is tough -
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