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  • Mr KLC
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    White Sox Offer Machado 7 year/$175 Million
    In the weeks since the White Sox made a reported seven-year offer to Machado, several followup reports have pegged the offer’s value as closer to $200MM than to $300MM. Now, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports (via Twitter) that the exact value of Chicago’s offer to Machado is $175MM over seven years — a $25MM annual value.

    I've heard of lowballing to start out negotiations, but damn!
  • thomorino
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    #2
    The Philadelphia offer will be the biggest, not even close, its just a question of if he wants to live in Philadelphia.
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    • cincinnatikid513
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      #3
      but he wants 300 million



      harper and machado want a number no team is willing to offer and the teams in the running are getting less and less hard to get in a bidding war if philly is competing with themselves
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      • Mr KLC
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        #4
        I think these last two offseasons are going to fuel another strike when the next CBA is negotiated.
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        • funnyb25
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          #5
          I've always thought Machado is super overrated. Idk..
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          • Ratpack
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            #6
            not bad if theres a player option after the 4th year he could still get another big contract at age 30
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            • TheMoneyShot
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              #7
              That Chisox deal is reasonable (from a business standpoint.) But at least 2 other teams will offer more.
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              • inmyownzone
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                #8
                I think harper signs after machado. If machado signs with Chicago, Bryce goes to philly. If machado signs with philly Bryce goes back to DC. Philly said they aren't signing both. I think theyre (philly) gonna make a big push for trout in 2 years
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                • Cuse0323
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                  #9
                  Man, if I could have been blessed with anything it would have to be the skills to be a MLB player.
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                  • inmyownzone
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cuse0323
                    Man, if I could have been blessed with anything it would have to be the skills to be a MLB player.
                    Facts. Kyler Murray is an idiot for not playing baseball only. If I could go back I would have just played baseball and soccer. Least chance for injury, highest contracts, and even if youre not a superstar you can still make a good living playing sports in single a or a small league in soccer.
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                    • cincinnatikid513
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by inmyownzone
                      Facts. Kyler Murray is an idiot for not playing baseball only. If I could go back I would have just played baseball and soccer. Least chance for injury, highest contracts, and even if youre not a superstar you can still make a good living playing sports in single a or a small league in soccer.
                      not actually true, only big contracts if u make it to the bigs then the team has control of you for 4-5 years look at guys like mark appel he was supposed to be a sure thing drafted number 1 overall got his 6 million dollar signing bonus and never made it to the big leagues
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                      • jjgold
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                        #12
                        Team is continue to overpay for offense that does not equate to winning
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                        • inmyownzone
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Team is continue to overpay for offense that does not equate to winning
                          nationals been spending money on pitching for years now and hasn't gotten them past NLDS.
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                          • inmyownzone
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                            not actually true, only big contracts if u make it to the bigs then the team has control of you for 4-5 years look at guys like mark appel he was supposed to be a sure thing drafted number 1 overall got his 6 million dollar signing bonus and never made it to the big leagues
                            That's what I was saying. chance for big contract but even if you don't make it big you can still make a good living playing a sport you love in the minors.
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                            • cincinnatikid513
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by inmyownzone
                              That's what I was saying. chance for big contract but even if you don't make it big you can still make a good living playing a sport you love in the minors.
                              yah that would be a great gig playing for love of the game somewhere along the way baseball forgot about that turned into moneyball
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                              • KiDBaZkiT
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                                #16
                                Whitesox just running up the price for other clubs. Worst case scenario he takes the 175 and turns their franchise around.
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                                • Cuse0323
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                                  Why do minor leaguers get paid so little while big leaguers get inordinate amounts of money? The NFL pays practice squad guys well, and they have much larger rosters. While also not having a bunch of ridiculous contracts across the squad.
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                                  • El Nino
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                    not actually true, only big contracts if u make it to the bigs then the team has control of you for 4-5 years look at guys like mark appel he was supposed to be a sure thing drafted number 1 overall got his 6 million dollar signing bonus and never made it to the big leagues
                                    Exactly, hence Murray telling the A's he wants $15 million or he enters the draft. He's going to get more guaranteed $ in the NFL being a 1st round draft pick than the $ he was guaranteed by the A's. This isn't Jeff Samardzija where he was going to be a tight end or a starting pitcher. Positional players in the bigs aren't getting starting pitching $$$. Samardzija was never going to make $122.75 million playing tight end in the NFL. Like Samardzija, Murray is maximizing his future earnings. NFL QB's are so protected these days.
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                                    • KiDBaZkiT
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      Why do minor leaguers get paid so little while big leaguers get inordinate amounts of money? The NFL pays practice squad guys well, and they have much larger rosters. While also not having a bunch of ridiculous contracts across the squad.
                                      Well having seen up close on 100's of occaisions the Angels farm system I can def see why they don't get paid anywhere near the bigs. They got a pretty good gig man most are not big league talent.
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                                      • thechaoz
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Team is continue to overpay for offense that does not equate to winning
                                        Harper turned down 300 million! The guy is insane
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                                        • ikid2groove415
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                                          #21
                                          I think Harper can sell tickets - not sure about machado
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                                          • Chi_archie
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                            Why do minor leaguers get paid so little while big leaguers get inordinate amounts of money? The NFL pays practice squad guys well, and they have much larger rosters. While also not having a bunch of ridiculous contracts across the squad.
                                            its apples and oranges

                                            minor league players aren't paid by the MLB team they are affliated with most of the time

                                            The tiny little minor league franchise owner that is also the ticket taker and sometimes mascot and janitor is the guy that is responsible for the minor leaguers salary. They make their revenue the old fashioned way with ticket and concession sales, and selling Ads in their programs and outfield wall signage. Only small % of milb players will ever make it to MLB, even for a cup of coffee. Each MLB team has about 150-175 players in US based minor league teams.

                                            NFL has just 10 players on the practice squad. and instead of taking 4-7 years to develop in the minors. they are with the NFL team Everyday just like an everyday player. All the practices, meetings, playbook ect. They are one injury away from being in uniform the following Sunday.
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                                            • MinnesotaFats
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                                              #23
                                              I was undercthe impression that Machado was Phi #1 choice all this time???

                                              Harper medting in Philly only driving up price Nats wind up paying...

                                              NYY don't seem to be in the picture for either....
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                                              • thomorino
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                I was undercthe impression that Machado was Phi #1 choice all this time???

                                                Harper medting in Philly only driving up price Nats wind up paying...

                                                NYY don't seem to be in the picture for either....
                                                Philly has definetely been more focused on Machada, I think they just want an insurance option if Machada says no since their a lot of reports that Machado would prefer LA or chicago.
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                                                • paco
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                                                  #25
                                                  Bad attitude. Bad for the clubhouse. Not worth that amount of money
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                                                  • sourtwist
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by paco
                                                    Bad attitude. Bad for the clubhouse. Not worth that amount of money
                                                    This sums it up
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                                                    • shocka1212
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                                                      #27
                                                      thats a lot for a guy who braids his hair.. not a judgement, just an observation
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                                                      • inmyownzone
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                                                        thats a lot for a guy who braids his hair.. not a judgement, just an observation
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                                                        • Cuse0323
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          its apples and oranges

                                                          minor league players aren't paid by the MLB team they are affliated with most of the time

                                                          The tiny little minor league franchise owner that is also the ticket taker and sometimes mascot and janitor is the guy that is responsible for the minor leaguers salary. They make their revenue the old fashioned way with ticket and concession sales, and selling Ads in their programs and outfield wall signage. Only small % of milb players will ever make it to MLB, even for a cup of coffee. Each MLB team has about 150-175 players in US based minor league teams.

                                                          NFL has just 10 players on the practice squad. and instead of taking 4-7 years to develop in the minors. they are with the NFL team Everyday just like an everyday player. All the practices, meetings, playbook ect. They are one injury away from being in uniform the following Sunday.
                                                          Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for. Was curious who paid their salaries. Makes sense.
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                                                          • JayandCaitti
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                                                            #30
                                                            Come on white Sox's don't you realize machado has a family to feed?

                                                            - latrell sprewell
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                                                            • MinnesotaFats
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              its apples and oranges

                                                              minor league players aren't paid by the MLB team they are affliated with most of the time

                                                              The tiny little minor league franchise owner that is also the ticket taker and sometimes mascot and janitor is the guy that is responsible for the minor leaguers salary. They make their revenue the old fashioned way with ticket and concession sales, and selling Ads in their programs and outfield wall signage. Only small % of milb players will ever make it to MLB, even for a cup of coffee. Each MLB team has about 150-175 players in US based minor league teams.

                                                              NFL has just 10 players on the practice squad. and instead of taking 4-7 years to develop in the minors. they are with the NFL team Everyday just like an everyday player. All the practices, meetings, playbook ect. They are one injury away from being in uniform the following Sunday.
                                                              Actually this is wrong

                                                              As I had looked into purchasing the Daytona Tortugas I'm familar with MiLB ownership

                                                              1- it's not mom & pop. It's big business. You can't even sniff ownership of even a low class A team for under $5mm.

                                                              2- MLB pays the salaries of off MiLB players. The minor league franchise is responsible for bats, balls (thou affiliate MLB usually provides as well), transportation, lodging, uniforms and procurement of a place to play

                                                              3- minor league salaries are small and MLB high because baseball is the only sport where you have 5 layers to break thru before you're anything. There are few MLB players that flop as compared to draft picks in NBA or NFL where flop rate is high. If you are in the minors making poor money then you suck and it's time to get a real job
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                                                              • scot4
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                                                                #32
                                                                sports radio guys were talking today this is about what arod signed for back in 2001. to me well worth the money seems a great value.
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                                                                • Big Bear
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                  In the weeks since the White Sox made a reported seven-year offer to Machado, several followup reports have pegged the offer’s value as closer to $200MM than to $300MM. Now, ESPN’s Buster Olney reports (via Twitter) that the exact value of Chicago’s offer to Machado is $175MM over seven years — a $25MM annual value.

                                                                  I've heard of lowballing to start out negotiations, but damn!
                                                                  Why would the White Sox go after Machado?

                                                                  Makes no sense. They have no other talent on the roster, I thought they were looking to rebuild?
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                                                                  • Mr KLC
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    With the Indians cutting their payroll, the AL Central could be had by the White Sox or Twins if the right moves are made. Hell, the Twins could afford to sign Harper and Machado if they wanted to. They have practically no guaranteed money on their books past next year.
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                                                                    • cincinnatikid513
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                      With the Indians cutting their payroll, the AL Central could be had by the White Sox or Twins if the right moves are made. Hell, the Twins could afford to sign Harper and Machado if they wanted to. They have practically no guaranteed money on their books past next year.
                                                                      worked out well for the twins paying mauer what did he produce how bout 10 playoff games for the twins and 0 wins
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