Thoughts on lines with high juice -115 or higher

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  • Gio21
    SBR MVP
    • 11-13-09
    • 1594

    #1
    Thoughts on lines with high juice -115 or higher
    What are your general thoughts on a spread that is juiced up to -115 or higher? And what does that mean? As well as which side would be the correct play? Would it be the one with the high juice?
  • MinnesotaFats
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-18-10
    • 14758

    #2
    Don't mind it on team totals or if im getting a hook as a dog

    Not if i have to lay points. Its the juice that kills you in the end.
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    • TommieGunshot
      SBR MVP
      • 03-27-12
      • 1604

      #3
      I always lay -115 anytime the probability of winning exceeds 53.5%
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #4
        Originally posted by TommieGunshot
        I always lay -115 anytime the probability of winning exceeds 53.5%
        Good time to do so! Lol

        You could be like shooter and buy 6/7 points! Lol
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #5
          It really depends if you mean mathematical or psychological
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          • danshan11
            SBR MVP
            • 07-08-17
            • 4101

            #6
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            It really depends if you mean mathematical or psychological
            very valid point, lines mean very different things to different methods!
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            • fourlokobro
              SBR Sharp
              • 06-02-17
              • 302

              #7
              Anything up to -125 buying points is my limit... Lines are too sharp but I find value in buying off of key numbers like 6 in football or single digits in Bball
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              • danshan11
                SBR MVP
                • 07-08-17
                • 4101

                #8
                I think lots of time a book likes a number and so instead of moving off that number they just move the odds, like it will be -2 and we need -2 even if we give up a little juice to get it but cant move it to -3 or -2.5 or whatever. but reality is like always, you are still stuck paying very similar juice at -115 -105 -150
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gio21
                  What are your general thoughts on a spread that is juiced up to -115 or higher? And what does that mean? As well as which side would be the correct play? Would it be the one with the high juice?
                  What does that mean? What do you mean? Understand that the books are manipulating the market and attempting to steer or even stop moneyflow. A -115 price can do a lot for that. The books may also use -115 lines on low volume or low limit offers as well, to increase their own potential margins.

                  As far as the "correct" play goes, everyone has a different idea of that.

                  What those who beat the market consider to be the correct play will often be different than the typical everyday bettor.

                  Some think the correct play is the winning play but those in the game long term will recognize the hazard of that thinking.

                  It's not easy.
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                  • 2daBank
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-26-09
                    • 88966

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    What does that mean? What do you mean? Understand that the books are manipulating the market and attempting to steer or even stop moneyflow. A -115 price can do a lot for that. The books may also use -115 lines on low volume or low limit offers as well, to increase their own potential margins.

                    As far as the "correct" play goes, everyone has a different idea of that.

                    What those who beat the market consider to be the correct play will often be different than the typical everyday bettor.

                    Some think the correct play is the winning play but those in the game long term will recognize the hazard of that thinking.

                    It's not easy.
                    Often times the result has Little to do with whether a play was correct or not. Think that one of things guys struggle with a lot. Good plays often lose, bad plays cash plenty.

                    At end of day as you know all a talented capper does is get on plays that have a better chance of cashing than line suggest, do that repeatedly over the course of the season and you should end up in good shape!!! Sounds easy, lol.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      Often times the result has Little to do with whether a play was correct or not. Think that one of things guys struggle with a lot. Good plays often lose, bad plays cash plenty.

                      At end of day as you know all a talented capper does is get on plays that have a better chance of cashing than line suggest, do that repeatedly over the course of the season and you should end up in good shape!!! Sounds easy, lol.
                      True, I've lost many bets that I would make again in a heartbeat.

                      And truthfully, especially with some recent large spot plays, I've won some bets I know I should be thankful for winning as they never should have been made. Even though they won, I shouldn't make them again.

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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KVB
                        True, I've lost many bets that I would make again in a heartbeat.

                        And truthfully, especially with some recent large spot plays, I've won some bets I know I should be thankful for winning as they never should have been made. Even though they won, I shouldn't make them again.

                        Absolutely. I’m far more concerned w my grade on a game afterwords. I know if I continually have good grades it typically pays off over a entire season!
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                        • KiDBaZkiT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 14962

                          #13
                          Should not be a focal point. Mostly something u see offshore. Only got juiced once at a real book on a Straight bet ats and that was -120 when Peyton Manning was a Colt.
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