Saturday minor bowl games

[dante1]

I have been studying these 5 or 6 games now for a couple of days. IMO, they are very difficult games. I can usually at least get a feel for a game. As of right now, I have absolutely nothing. Add to that the fact that I know basically nothing about almost every team--no preconceived thoughts. I would seriously love to hear some opinions by some of you guys. did you spend any time on these games?

No thought by you guys is unimportant. thanks!

[BigdaddyQH]

I think Arizona State is very lucky to even be in a Bowl Game. Arizona gave them their last win. Fresno State is for real. Beating Boise State in Boise is never an easy task. They have one of the better defenses around. They are also trying to prove a point, showing that they can beat the Power 5 teams. The line is now Fresno State -5, up from a 3 1/2 point opener. I think that Fresno State is a solid play here.

As far as the rest of the first 5 games, I agree with you. I know very little about the teams involved and nothing stands out for me.

[dante1]

good, anything else guys/gals.

[Snowball]

Georgia Southern can put the beat down on Eastern Michigan.
Welcome to Dixie.

[dante1]

Georgia Southern can put the beat down on Eastern Michigan.
Welcome to Dixie.

I think, but I am not sure but I think most of the guys on ESPN love E Michigan. the bear and his crew, I might be mistaken but I think so.

[survive]

Only bet I made for Saturday thus far is asu tt under 24.5 (but I lean the game under as well). Harry’s absence is massive imo, from a targets (114!) and talent perspective. I think it’ll lead asu to playing more run oriented. I didn’t lay the points because asu has played in so many tight games. Neither team is particularly explosive and Fresno boasts a top ten s&p+ defense.

App state/mid tenn spread and total look spot on to me.
Utah state/north Texas should be a good game but there’s a lot of variance potential with Wells gone. Lean over there with two quality qbs and poor pass defenses.

[dante1]

Only bet I made for Saturday thus far is asu tt under 24.5 (but I lean the game under as well). Harry’s absence is massive imo, from a targets (114!) and talent perspective. I think it’ll lead asu to playing more run oriented. I didn’t lay the points because asu has played in so many tight games. Neither team is particularly explosive and Fresno boasts a top ten s&p+ defense.

App state/mid tenn spread and total look spot on to me.
Utah state/north Texas should be a good game but there’s a lot of variance potential with Wells gone. Lean over there with two quality qbs and poor pass defenses.

thanks, I will check these thoughts out. good stuff.

[Wrongside]

I wish AZ State was playing somebody easier. I typically like an overachiever such as Herm to win his first bowl game....much of that advantage is usually due to the long layoff, however, where they are treating the game like the Super Bowl. I was sad to see this pairing because Fresno State is good!

Underlying, perhaps obvious, point to bowl games is that they are a different beast.

Fresno State always going to be pumped up to beat a PAC 12 team, but also pac 12 may be out to prove a point this bowl season. Did I mention I hate this pairing? Could have been two easy wins, if they both were playing about 70% of the field

[jjgold]

I blindly taking every dog Saturday you can’t get hurt

[209 Life]

PAC-12 getting smoked this bowl season again, First up AZ ST to get punched in the teeth

[BigdaddyQH]

Only bet I made for Saturday thus far is asu tt under 24.5 (but I lean the game under as well). Harry’s absence is massive imo, from a targets (114!) and talent perspective. I think it’ll lead asu to playing more run oriented. I didn’t lay the points because asu has played in so many tight games. Neither team is particularly explosive and Fresno boasts a top ten s&p+ defense.

App state/mid tenn spread and total look spot on to me.
Utah state/north Texas should be a good game but there’s a lot of variance potential with Wells gone. Lean over there with two quality qbs and poor pass defenses.

Arizona State tt Under 24 was not a bad play with Harry playing. They were held to under 24 5 times during the season with him.

[BigdaddyQH]

PAC-12 getting smoked this bowl season again, First up AZ ST to get punched in the teeth

Then Fresno State, as usual, gets their ass kicked all over the Coliseum by USC on the Saturday before Labor Day 2019. Notice how Fresno State must go on the road to play decent Power 5 teams? They go to USC three times, UCLA twice, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Arizona State. NONE of those teams play in Fresno. This is because Fresno State has a crappy Stadium, crappy fans, and a crappy city.

[Fred The Hammer]

Don't get why the line has dropped to from 9 to 7.5 with Utah State? Yeah....Utah State's coach bailed for Tx Tech, but NT's coach is on the rumor wire too. Utah State is 34th on the Sagarin ratings. N Texas is 80th. Both teams have played easier non Power 5 schedules of course, but US has the 114th toughest schedule. NT is at 139. Utah State has 89 tackles for loss and 3rd in turnovers forced I think. They're much better defensively. NT is 3-2 SU in their last 5 with 2 wins by a fg. I think US is just a cut above and wins by double digits easily.

[BigdaddyQH]

NT's coaching rumors have NOTHING to do with the current line. If he bails, then you can say it did, but until then, it is a moot point. You guys have to stop looking for things are are simply not there.

[Fred The Hammer]

NT's coaching rumors have NOTHING to do with the current line. If he bails, then you can say it did, but until then, it is a moot point. You guys have to stop looking for things are are simply not there.

I'm just saying that US's coach leaving shouldn't shake them up that much. Not to mention this game is being played at Albuquerque elevation and Utah should be much more used to that then a team from north Texas.

[SBR Drew]

I have also researched these games

Fresno St
App St
GA Southern
Utah St

no opinion on Tulane game

good luck

[209 Life]

Then Fresno State, as usual, gets their ass kicked all over the Coliseum by USC on the Saturday before Labor Day 2019. Notice how Fresno State must go on the road to play decent Power 5 teams? They go to USC three times, UCLA twice, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Arizona State. NONE of those teams play in Fresno. This is because Fresno State has a crappy Stadium, crappy fans, and a crappy city.

Because you get you ass whipped in Fresno

[jjgold]

I would think taking the over all these games could be a good play

[dante1]

Don't get why the line has dropped to from 9 to 7.5 with Utah State? Yeah....Utah State's coach bailed for Tx Tech, but NT's coach is on the rumor wire too. Utah State is 34th on the Sagarin ratings. N Texas is 80th. Both teams have played easier non Power 5 schedules of course, but US has the 114th toughest schedule. NT is at 139. Utah State has 89 tackles for loss and 3rd in turnovers forced I think. They're much better defensively. NT is 3-2 SU in their last 5 with 2 wins by a fg. I think US is just a cut above and wins by double digits easily.

Fred, I had the same exact thought and I was actually thinking about fading Utah State, but I believe them to be the much better team. Hey, I know often the better team doesn't cover in bowls, that is why I give the dog much credit in bowl games.

you know I don't know what this is worth because I barely gave it a second thought when I heard it decades ago. but it is a true story. when I booked I had two cousins I believe who seemed to have much better luck in bowl games and this happened year after year. they would play 20 time RR, which meant they would lay 360 for a return of 1200. Now naturally that was if they won all three games. Speaking of parlays if you must play them betting RR might be the better play IMO. you have three chances out of eight of not losing, parlay only one chance out of four. both not good plays either way.

but back to the story, these kids said to me we play primarily favorites in the early bowls and primarily dogs in the later bowls, the better matchups. I don't remember doing much research on this even though I should have, I don't believe it has much validity, I just think they were two pretty lucky guys. If I remember this year maybe I will check it out. but it is interesting, but just another gamblers theory and most of them aren't worth ten cents.

[2daBank]

Fred, I had the same exact thought and I was actually thinking about fading Utah State, but I believe them to be the much better team. Hey, I know often the better team doesn't cover in bowls, that is why I give the dog much credit in bowl games.

you know I don't know what this is worth because I barely gave it a second thought when I heard it decades ago. but it is a true story. when I booked I had two cousins I believe who seemed to have much better luck in bowl games and this happened year after year. they would play 20 time RR, which meant they would lay 360 for a return of 1200. Now naturally that was if they won all three games. Speaking of parlays if you must play them betting RR might be the better play IMO. you have three chances out of eight of not losing, parlay only one chance out of four. both not good plays either way.

but back to the story, those kids said to me we play primarily favorites in the early bowls and primarily dogs in the later bowls, the better matchups. I don't remember doing much research on this even though I should have, I don't believe it has much validity, I just think they were two pretty lucky guys. If I remember this year maybe I will check it out. but it is interesting, but just another gamblers theory and most of them aren't worth ten cents.

I thought the saying went dogs early and favs late in bowl season, shows how much we know!! Lol.

[cashil]

Lafayette and Fresno are my plays.

Like north texas but that’s admittedly a bit of a homer pick

[Amay537]

Georgia southern game goes under. Utah State/northTexas goes over by halftime.

[Dakota99]

I think, but I am not sure but I think most of the guys on ESPN love E Michigan. the bear and his crew, I might be mistaken but I think so.

Bear has EMU and Midd Ten tomorrow, Stanford Steve on Tulane. I think one of them mentioned the under in the Vegas Bowl as well

[dante1]

I thought the saying went dogs early and favs late in bowl season, shows how much we know!! Lol.

well, I never heard it, either way, that was simply what two of my players believed, or said they believed. I probably think both ideas are BS, but who knows. Maybe, someday some genius will find a way to beat sports, in the long run that is.

[Amay537]

Had anyone else noticed that utah state has covered the over bu halftime in almost every game they played the past 2 months? Throw the championship game out, and they have annihilated teams.. I dont see north Texas being an elite defensive team... and I like their offense a bit. The over, which keeps going up, seems good. I'm going with the first half tho. In case north Texas comes out flat.. I believe utah state will get 60 by halftime, like they have a couple times this season.

[mtofell]

Agree with the general idea that these games are tough to figure. As the bowl season progresses the games will get a bit more predictable. I really agree that the Pac-12 is crap/overvalued and to fade them at every chance.

[pavyracer]

My research says take the points in all games tomorrow. Favs would have a hard time covering.

[flakeandbake]

Love this thread

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Love this thread

Yeah, good stuff. Good thoughts. My 2-cents...I'm not sure the Transient Coach angle is a good one.

If u look around, almost every team has coaches on the move. It's the nature of the beast in CollFB. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Just saying that it's prevalent throughout the country.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

And Good Luck to everyone in the Bowl Contest. Should be fun.

[JoeCool20]

If my dad was alive he'd beat my ass for betting a teaser, but since it is just betpoints on here,

I have teased Utah St and Fresno St. But I'd never tell anyone to bet a teaser, unless I hated them.

It will seem absolutely unbeatable until the games start.

[JoeCool20]

Had anyone else noticed that utah state has covered the over bu halftime in almost every game they played the past 2 months? Throw the championship game out, and they have annihilated teams.. I dont see north Texas being an elite defensive team... and I like their offense a bit. The over, which keeps going up, seems good. I'm going with the first half tho. In case north Texas comes out flat.. I believe utah state will get 60 by halftime, like they have a couple times this season.

I have UT ST in the first half for betpoints. the line is like -7 but the first half is -4.5! Those often win when they goose them up by more than what 50% of the actual line is.
I too see Ut St overwhelming NT in the 1st half with their lightning fast pace.

[dante1]

If my dad was alive he'd beat my ass for betting a teaser, but since it is just betpoints on here,

I have teased Utah St and Fresno St. But I'd never tell anyone to bet a teaser, unless I hated them.

It will seem absolutely unbeatable until the games start.

wow, isn't that the truth. you think this teaser can't lose. Once in a while, I play one or two for kicks and giggles. usually the NFL and usually dogs.

[BigdaddyQH]

Because you get you ass whipped in Fresno

A perfect example of their crappy fans.

[BigdaddyQH]

"I think Arizona State is very lucky to even be in a Bowl Game. Arizona gave them their last win. Fresno State is for real. Beating Boise State in Boise is never an easy task. They have one of the better defenses around. They are also trying to prove a point, showing that they can beat the Power 5 teams. The line is now Fresno State -5, up from a 3 1/2 point opener. I think that Fresno State is a solid play here.

As far as the rest of the first 5 games, I agree with you. I know very little about the teams involved and nothing stands out for me."

"Arizona State tt Under 24 was not a bad play with Harry playing. They were held to under 24 5 times during the season with him."

2-0 which means I have now won more money than 90% of you people will because you cannot afford to wager as much as I do. If any one of you doubters would have looked at my Spreadsheet, you would have noticed that Fresno was one of my two picks. Let's see if anyone is smart enough to figure out what the other wager is.