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  • Gian2015
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-26-15
    • 331

    #1
    Bet365 - USA
    Hello
    I would like to ask our friends in USA the experience they have with Bet365, after entering the US market.

    Do they limit as soon as they limit in Europe after a handful of winning bets?
    Is there any law in US (for example in the new open market in New Jersey) for not limiting players because of winning?

    The worldwide giant (Bet365) has become a very soft book in recent years, they limit very very soon.

    Every answer will be very useful to me

    Thanks
  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
    • 36945

    #2
    Gian, that's huge news. Thx for reporting.

    I've always wanted a B365 acct. I'm looking fwd to hearing poster responses to your questions.

    I've thought of B365 as welcoming action bettors. Look at their site. B365 is a place u can be in action 365/24/7, no lie.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #3
      Who has them?

      Nj?
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      • Gian2015
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        • 02-26-15
        • 331

        #4
        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
        Gian, that's huge news. Thx for reporting.

        I've always wanted a B365 acct. I'm looking fwd to hearing poster responses to your questions.

        I've thought of B365 as welcoming action bettors. Look at their site. B365 is a place u can be in action 365/24/7, no lie.

        ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts (in Europe) after playing just 5-6 player bets in NBA (over/under points, rebs e.t.c.) or some other "weak" betting markets.

        That's the reason i ask, if they do the same in US market.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
          what usa market son?
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          • Gian2015
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-26-15
            • 331

            #6
            Jjgold, as far as i know, Bet365 has already entered the US market. I am sure they did it in New Jersey, maybe in the other states that legalized betting too.

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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388189

              #7
              I do not think they are operating in NJ yet
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              • Gian2015
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-26-15
                • 331

                #8
                That's something new to me.
                I knew that they were already in there, maybe i am wrong. I had read in UK's newspapers (where they have the company) that after they agreed with the casinos they already entered.

                But i accept what you wrote, of course, i do not live there.

                I leave the post here, for anyone who has any experience from US with Bet365. I am just VERY interested to know what is (or will be) their policy there.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388189

                  #9
                  It’s not in Nj

                  Probably still under review
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                  • lonnie55
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-08-16
                    • 2689

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gian2015
                    ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts (in Europe) after playing just 5-6 player bets in NBA (over/under points, rebs e.t.c.) or some other "weak" betting markets.

                    That's the reason i ask, if they do the same in US market.
                    Yeah, but Denise Coates still pays herself 3x the salary of Tim Cook.

                    That's why we need a minimum bet rule in every country. Books have to accept winning players as well as they welcome losing players.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #11
                      The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm
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                      • HeeeHAWWWW
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-13-08
                        • 5487

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gian2015
                        ChunkyTheGoat, If you asked me some years ago i would tell you that bet365 is THE BEST BOOKIE in the world (and i wager via internet over two decades, in uncounted bookies all over the world). Large limits to play, millions of prop bets and every game/every sport available for LIVE BETTING. Huge, excellent... but in recent years and more over in recent months they limit accounts .....
                        Not just recent months. I lost my account 11/12 years ago to it.
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                        • Gian2015
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 02-26-15
                          • 331

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm
                          That's true, but i asked hoping that the new laws in US could probably be more player-friendly than in Europe.
                          As lonnie55 writes, ONLY the minimum bet rule will help the winning players.
                          Some time ago had read that in Canada there were thoughts about a minimum bet rule (for about 100 dollars i think), but i don't know if it's true.
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                          • Gian2015
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 02-26-15
                            • 331

                            #14
                            Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                            Not just recent months. I lost my account 11/12 years ago to it.
                            In recent years/months, it's ridiculous easy to limit you (Bet365).
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388189

                              #15
                              Nope

                              William Hill USA same as William Hill Uk

                              Ban players all the time for betting weak lines
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                              • Gian2015
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 02-26-15
                                • 331

                                #16
                                Great...
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                                • Crusherrr
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-27-16
                                  • 3647

                                  #17
                                  Bet365 will be operating out of Resorts World casinos in New York. Both Catskills and NYC location. Idk if they are anywhere else but when NY happens they will be running those books.
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                                  • Jayvegas420
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                                    • 03-09-11
                                    • 28213

                                    #18
                                    $.40 take in play lines
                                    $.30 Take on most props
                                    Upwards of 20% in the poker room.
                                    No referal program


                                    Besides that it's s good book with quick payouts
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                                    • MiDNiTe
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-11-13
                                      • 7684

                                      #19
                                      Just put small deposit and use it to watch live sports
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                                      • aljack
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                                        • 09-08-17
                                        • 381

                                        #20
                                        As a Canadian that has had access for years - I would say it's the most user friendly sportsbook in the world. If it gets into the United States. I would pick it up immediately. They are an absolutely proper operator... but they do prefer recreational players. They will limit you. They will kick you out if you arbitrage and hedge props alot, etc. So be careful. They are good for a decent amount of action though. Just know that they monitor the shit out of all their players. I would say they have the best sports betting technology in the world. Better than anything I seen in Vegas.
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                                        • Gian2015
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-26-15
                                          • 331

                                          #21
                                          aljack, 100% correct
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                                          • lonnie55
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-08-16
                                            • 2689

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            The business models are always the same whether it’s the United States or the UK if it’s the same firm
                                            No, it's not JJ.

                                            Some examples: bwin.fr is not the same like bwin.com because in France books have to pay higher taxes so the prices at bwin.fr are significantly lower than at bwin.com

                                            Racing betting at Ladbrokes UK is not the same like racing betting at Ladbrokes International because in UK Ladbrokes applies to the minimum bet rule (£500).

                                            In Germany the legal bodies are seeking for a maximum loss per month for every player.

                                            So the business model of a regulated sportsbook always depends on national laws.
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388189

                                              #23
                                              In United States it’s exactly the same William Hill bans everybody in Vegas and Nj
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                                              • Shifty
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-10-08
                                                • 558

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Crusherrr
                                                Bet365 will be operating out of Resorts World casinos in New York. Both Catskills and NYC location. Idk if they are anywhere else but when NY happens they will be running those books.
                                                Resorts World also has an electronic casino at Aqueduct Racetrack. They could be in there too. Terrible decision. Everybody knows about their bad reputation except the corporate numbskulls at Resorts World. What a shame.
                                                Last edited by Shifty; 12-11-18, 11:13 AM.
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                                                • besime
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 05-21-18
                                                  • 18

                                                  #25
                                                  I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388189

                                                    #26
                                                    the book you want in your state is MGM

                                                    You do not want Euro companies but unfortunately most will be them
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                                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                      • 06-13-08
                                                      • 5487

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by besime
                                                      I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.
                                                      There's a voluntary minimum bet limit for horse racing a few books are doing. Maybe eventually the regulator will impose it more widely, but I doubt it - they're more concerned with problem gambling.
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                                                      • lonnie55
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                                                        • 04-08-16
                                                        • 2689

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by besime
                                                        I remember a news from UK, that they will do some steps against the Bookies who Limit to 1-2 € or even close the Betting Accounts of winning Players. No Joke Can´t find the news now, just read it in a other Forum.
                                                        Support this guy https://justiceforpunters.org/
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                                                        • BetLoose18
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 11-18-18
                                                          • 106

                                                          #29
                                                          Bet365 is the best in play in the world but there useless because you have half a clue you are limited quick
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                                                          • leetreaper
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                                                            • 10-23-10
                                                            • 34841

                                                            #30
                                                            365 book is A MUST
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                                                            • dante1
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                                                              • 10-31-05
                                                              • 38647

                                                              #31
                                                              BET 365 is a fabulous out, when I first started internet wagering they operated in the USA. A great out, and fast paying. In fact, I even hit a royal on their video poker that paid 8,000. you won't see or hear of that happening in most of the offshore outs we deal with. They are regulated and they must be honest, at least they were honest then, and I doubt things have changed.

                                                              If they enter the USA market again I will sign up immediately.
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                                                              • danwinkler
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 05-22-18
                                                                • 461

                                                                #32
                                                                It is one of the squarest book out there. If you are a winning bettor, don't bother with them. But it doesn't matter for 98% of the bettors since they all lose one way or other.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388189

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you guys are getting confused

                                                                  IN USA LEGAL MARKETS in 1 state
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                                                                  • dante1
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                                                                    • 10-31-05
                                                                    • 38647

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by danwinkler
                                                                    It is one of the squarest book out there. If you are a winning bettor, don't bother with them. But it doesn't matter for 98% of the bettors since they all lose one way or other.
                                                                    make that 99.99%. I know, I booked for decades. No winners.
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                                                                    • lonnie55
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-08-16
                                                                      • 2689

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by dante1
                                                                      make that 99.99%. I know, I booked for decades. No winners.
                                                                      That's the sad part about it. Something between 0.01 and 0.1% long-term winners but the global player bet365 with more than 20 mio customers worldwide and a founder who is a multi-billionaire is not able to handle 1 winner out of 1,000 or 10,000 players.

                                                                      It's a shame.
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