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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
    • 45842

    #1
    Value on Clemson
    I like Clemson at -11.5. 17-20 for the year in CFB, I've ben profitable since week 2 but I started slow.

    Both these teams played weak schedules since the ACC was down this year and Stanford and USC had disappointing seasons, I think Clemson is clearly the better team.

    ND's only impressive win was week 1 against Michigan, but Michigan was bad on the road all year and this game was Patterson's first game since transferring. Notre Dame beat at the time #7 ranked Stanford, but Stanford wasnt' that good this year, and Love was hurt in that game.

    Teams that could throw the ball moved the ball easily on ND - USC, Stanford, Vanderbilt in the second half of that game. Notre Dame played bad quarterbacks all year too, USC was the first good passing offense they faced and USC moved the ball easily on them but kept fumbling.

    Clemson's schedule hasn't been that hard but Clemson has consistently dominated teams like Boston College and NC State. Clemson blew a 4th down play against A&M that could have blown that game open in the first half and A&M has a dual threat QB, Book is nowhere near the runner.

    Clemson's offense should move the ball easily on ND's weak pass defense, Clemson's best talent is at receiver, and ND's pass rush is nothing special. Book is a read option QB, he's not a great pocket passer, and Clemson's mediocre secondary should be fine, Clemson's defensive front is elite and ND will likely struggle to run.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    tailing this one
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    • BigdaddyQH
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-13-09
      • 19530

      #3
      First, 17-20 is a loser. You are full of excuses, but none are accepted. Second, if JJ is tailing you, you have ZERO chance. He has been, is, and will always be the "il colpo di grazia" ( the kiss of death) if he sides with you.
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      • thomorino
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        • 06-01-17
        • 45842

        #4
        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
        First, 17-20 is a loser. You are full of excuses, but none are accepted. Second, if JJ is tailing you, you have ZERO chance. He has been, is, and will always be the "il colpo di grazia" ( the kiss of death) if he sides with you.
        Fuk off
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        • lonegambler23
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-22-16
          • 9760

          #5
          value isnt spreads..
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          • Sam Odom
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-30-05
            • 58063

            #6
            Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

            ... if JJ is tailing you, you have ZERO chance.

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            • CWD
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-22-12
              • 7665

              #7
              did clemson beat one team with a pulse
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              • Booya711
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                • 12-20-11
                • 27329

                #8
                Originally posted by CWD
                did clemson beat one team with a pulse
                Playing ND is like having a bye to the championship
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                • ans61201
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-11-15
                  • 3661

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Booya711
                  Playing ND is like having a bye to the championship
                  I said the same thing. It was better to be the 2 seed then the 1, no matter who was chosen for that 4 spot they were going to be better than ND
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                  • Sam Odom
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-30-05
                    • 58063

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Booya711

                    Playing ND is like having a bye to the championship

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                    • RM Logic
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-09-13
                      • 847

                      #11
                      Clemson's secondary is suspect so laying that points invites a closer game and a back door cover. ND is better than fans think and their DLine can pressure a rookie QB.
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                      • kingdom
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-25-10
                        • 10099

                        #12
                        Book is a very good qb. both dogs cover that night.
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                        • CWD
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                          • 01-22-12
                          • 7665

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Booya711
                          Playing ND is like having a bye to the championship
                          not too far removed from few years ago when they went into death valley and outplayed clemson

                          dexter williams scary talent since he came back from suspension - im taking points and ML

                          time will tell
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                          • Booya711
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                            • 12-20-11
                            • 27329

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CWD
                            not too far removed from few years ago when they went into death valley and outplayed clemson

                            dexter williams scary talent since he came back from suspension - im taking points and ML

                            time will tell
                            True...I just know ND didn’t have a difficult schedule either
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                            • mtofell
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-21-13
                              • 744

                              #15
                              I think ND had a soft schedule but Clemson wasn't much better. Bama has about the easiest road to the championship they could. No Michigan, no Ohio St, no Georgia. I think Bama is going to mop the floor with either team if/when they make it to the final game. They should also handily beat Oklahoma but I actually think that will be the tougher of the two games. As for the main question about Clemson -11.5? Sure, that's the side I'd take if I had to take one but it's not my favorite bet on the board.
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                              • keely85
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-04-15
                                • 4296

                                #16
                                Clemson is not that good. They’ll struggle with ND and get crushed by Bama.

                                They’d prob lose to Oklahoma if things were reversed too
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                                • shocka1212
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-06-12
                                  • 16788

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by keely85
                                  Clemson is not that good. They’ll struggle with ND and get crushed by Bama.

                                  They’d prob lose to Oklahoma if things were reversed too
                                  ND needed the refs to beat Pitt at home.. Clemson is going to absolutely wax them.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    A lot of sharp all over ND

                                    underrated QB
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                                    • keely85
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-04-15
                                      • 4296

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by shocka1212
                                      ND needed the refs to beat Pitt at home.. Clemson is going to absolutely wax them.
                                      And Clemson struggled with a BC team that had a backup who couldn’t and wouldn’t throw the ball. Clemson’s differential against their 2 ranked opponents is like 2.5
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                                      • shocka1212
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-12
                                        • 16788

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by keely85
                                        And Clemson struggled with a BC team that had a backup who couldn’t and wouldn’t throw the ball. Clemson’s differential against their 2 ranked opponents is like 2.5
                                        BC had an extra week to prepare I believe.
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                                        • CWD
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-22-12
                                          • 7665

                                          #21
                                          If we're playing that game it also took miracle for clemson to beat syracuse
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                                          • sheedy17
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 08-02-18
                                            • 453

                                            #22
                                            Final is gonna be Oklahoma vs ND ..... just so u all bet wisely
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                                            • Hot Jerry
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-16-13
                                              • 5545

                                              #23
                                              Stay away from CLEMSON !! Is ND or WNT .
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                                              • A Quant
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-14-18
                                                • 1357

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                I like Clemson at -11.5. 17-20 for the year in CFB, I've ben profitable since week 2 but I started slow.

                                                Both these teams played weak schedules since the ACC was down this year and Stanford and USC had disappointing seasons, I think Clemson is clearly the better team.

                                                ND's only impressive win was week 1 against Michigan, but Michigan was bad on the road all year and this game was Patterson's first game since transferring. Notre Dame beat at the time #7 ranked Stanford, but Stanford wasnt' that good this year, and Love was hurt in that game.

                                                Teams that could throw the ball moved the ball easily on ND - USC, Stanford, Vanderbilt in the second half of that game. Notre Dame played bad quarterbacks all year too, USC was the first good passing offense they faced and USC moved the ball easily on them but kept fumbling.

                                                Clemson's schedule hasn't been that hard but Clemson has consistently dominated teams like Boston College and NC State. Clemson blew a 4th down play against A&M that could have blown that game open in the first half and A&M has a dual threat QB, Book is nowhere near the runner.

                                                Clemson's offense should move the ball easily on ND's weak pass defense, Clemson's best talent is at receiver, and ND's pass rush is nothing special. Book is a read option QB, he's not a great pocket passer, and Clemson's mediocre secondary should be fine, Clemson's defensive front is elite and ND will likely struggle to run.
                                                Wow. Did you watch college football this year?

                                                Notre Dame has the #4 ranked pass efficiency defense in the country.

                                                #4.

                                                Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


                                                I've seen crazy ass shit on this board. But this tops it.

                                                Notre Dame has 2 NFL DBs. Juilian Love was a finalist for the Thorpe, he'll be a Top 15 corner, and Troy Pride is another.

                                                Clemson may cover--- but it won't be for any of the f'd up reasons you listed.

                                                You're the same knucklehead in week 1 who yapped about ND's defense last year--- and picked Michigan, and ranted how good Patterson was going to be.
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                                                • thomorino
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 06-01-17
                                                  • 45842

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by A Quant
                                                  Wow. Did you watch college football this year?

                                                  Notre Dame has the #4 ranked pass efficiency defense in the country.

                                                  #4.

                                                  Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


                                                  I've seen crazy ass shit on this board. But this tops it.

                                                  Notre Dame has 2 NFL DBs. Juilian Love was a finalist for the Thorpe, he'll be a Top 15 corner, and Troy Pride is another.

                                                  Clemson may cover--- but it won't be for any of the f'd up reasons you listed.

                                                  You're the same knucklehead in week 1 who yapped about ND's defense last year--- and picked Michigan, and ranted how good Patterson was going to be.
                                                  Yeah dumbasss this is the reason you need to watch the games, every top team in college looks good against garbage quarterbacks.

                                                  By the way, not that I care, I saw your record in beat the prick, you were in nearly last place and down nearly 30 units -shut the fuk up.
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                                                  • A Quant
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-14-18
                                                    • 1357

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by thomorino
                                                    Yeah dumbasss this is the reason you need to watch the games, every top team in college looks good against garbage quarterbacks.

                                                    By the way, not that I care, I saw your record in beat the prick, you were in nearly last place and down nearly 30 units -shut the fuk up.
                                                    I think I submitted 3 weeks worth of picks in BTP.

                                                    Only a f'ing nitwit like you would think 15 picks is a sample size.

                                                    Remind us again, how did you end up betting baseball?

                                                    You literally are the dumbest fuking poster on SBR, and you do you know bad you have to be to pull off that distinction?
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                                                    • homie1975
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-24-13
                                                      • 15452

                                                      #27
                                                      Giving double digits points to ND not a good idea. Irish will get to young qb and he will actually feel heat. Then what? Irish keep it close
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                                                      • thomorino
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-01-17
                                                        • 45842

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by A Quant
                                                        I think I submitted 3 weeks worth of picks in BTP.

                                                        Only a f'ing nitwit like you would think 15 picks is a sample size.

                                                        Remind us again, how did you end up betting baseball?

                                                        You literally are the dumbest fuking poster on SBR, and you do you know bad you have to be to pull off that distinction?
                                                        Fuk off
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                                                        • thomorino
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-01-17
                                                          • 45842

                                                          #29
                                                          Not that I care, I've explained many times no one bets as much on reguarl season baseball games as on football - I'm over 57% the last 2 years combined - my football record shits on yours quant twat.
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                                                          • thomorino
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 06-01-17
                                                            • 45842

                                                            #30
                                                            Not that I care but your stopped sumbitting picks because you were fuking buried - down 30 units less than half way through the season.
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                                                            • BGS 9.5
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-10-08
                                                              • 4628

                                                              #31
                                                              17/20, of course you aren't

                                                              go fuk your own asshole pal
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                                                              • Bostongambler
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                                                                • 02-01-08
                                                                • 35581

                                                                #32
                                                                Thermuflu hang in there kid. Don’t forget winning is the opposite of losing, so buck up and turn that frown upside down and maybe that will help.
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                                                                • thomorino
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 06-01-17
                                                                  • 45842

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BGS 9.5
                                                                  17/20, of course you aren't

                                                                  go fuk your own asshole pal
                                                                  Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                                                  Thermuflu hang in there kid. Don’t forget winning is the opposite of losing, so buck up and turn that frown upside down and maybe that will help.
                                                                  Fuk off
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                                                                  • Bostongambler
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                                                                    • 02-01-08
                                                                    • 35581

                                                                    #34
                                                                    You never let me down. Thank you, Thermuflu!!!
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                                                                    • thomorino
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                                                                      • 06-01-17
                                                                      • 45842

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                                                      You never let me down. Thank you, Thermuflu!!!
                                                                      Fuk off
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