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  • slambam
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    • 02-07-10
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    #106
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    Trump was right. If an armed guard was there it wouldn't have happened. We need armed guards everywhere.
    What I read, the bouncer was the first person he shot before throwing the smoke bombs. The bouncer coulda been armed and it woulda done no good.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #107
      I gotta hand it to the cops as they gotta rush in under policy to confront the shooters under fire now.. Can't call in SWAT anymore.. Risky job!!!! Hero stuff...
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      • Grits n' Gravy
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        • 06-10-10
        • 13024

        #108
        Wow. Tragic for those innocent people. Only person to blame is the murderer. Trump had nothing to do with it. Trump didn’t tell him to do it. Trump didn’t pull the trigger.

        Another combat veteran. We don’t know what mental issues he may have had and whether or not he was receiving adequate treatment for everything.

        I personally hate the idea of more guns in public places in order to “protect” everyone. Turning things into a police state is not how I want to raise my family.

        Our government does need to push for stricter background checks partnered with extremely strict enforcement of punishment to anyone violating gun laws. Close gun show loop holes. I am all for protecting the 2nd amendment but it does need tweaking. Our firepower is just too beyond their intent. Law abiding citizens who are pro 2nd amendment should have no problem waiting for longer to purchase firearms and ammo if it keeps legal guns out of the wrong hands. Trump needs to get everyone on board with fixing the VA. If we truly care about our veterans, providing them with excellent and quick healthcare should be an automatic. The funds can be pulled from budget of dept of defense as well as an added tariff on gun and ammo manufacturers. It’s the least the manufacturers can do.

        Trump and all of our elected officials have an opportunity to make real positive change for future generations if they put aside bullshit party lines. Most of us have or will have kids and want them to have a better quality of life.
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        • Mr KLC
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          • 12-19-07
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          #109
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #110
            Originally posted by slambam
            What I read, the bouncer was the first person he shot before throwing the smoke bombs. The bouncer coulda been armed and it woulda done no good.
            A bouncer is not an armed guard. A guard would be wearing bulletproof vest, combat boots, battle helmet and armed with a machine gun. His only job would be to be at the gate of the club to take out intruders. He won't be checking IDs and breaking up scuffles like bouncers do.

            Would you like to have 15000 troops at the border with Mexico or armed guards outside clubs and other public places?
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #111
              You got a trained Marine and war vet wanting to shoot up a joint and throwing smoke.. Not much you can do about that armed or not and that's why a cop died trying to rush in.. I'm surprised he didn't kill more..

              That shiits like Rambo...
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              • wikkidinsane
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                • 05-30-10
                • 13799

                #112
                Im not for banning guns period. I own one. I do want people with mental issues not being able to carry one, even if they did serve in the military. Thanks for your service but you are not in the correct state of mind to carry a gun anymore. I had a vet, during a pickup soccer game, got upset, went to his vehicle and pointed his gun and scanned the whole field, I almost shit my shorts. We love the vets but you have to take away some of their guns
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                • slambam
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-07-10
                  • 1653

                  #113
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  A bouncer is not an armed guard. A guard would be wearing bulletproof vest, combat boots, battle helmet and armed with a machine gun. His only job would be to be at the gate of the club to take out intruders. He won't be checking IDs and breaking up scuffles like bouncers do.

                  Would you like to have 15000 troops at the border with Mexico or armed guards outside clubs and other public places?
                  You're completely insane if you think every bar, restaurant, school, etc is going to get fukking guards covered in kevlar. How the hell is that the best option we have? We need to call on the national guard to cover every public place? GTFO.
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                  • sourtwist
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-10-12
                    • 9364

                    #114
                    Is it true that there were over 50 of the same people at Vegas shooting also?

                    Took me 2 min in my nonstop day

                    Too bad none of you morons are able to handicap real (fake) life situations

                    Might have a better awareness of your surroundings

                    -i have not read a single post in this thread
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                    • The Giant
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                      • 01-21-12
                      • 21480

                      #115
                      Originally posted by sourtwist
                      Is it true that there were over 50 of the same people at Vegas shooting also?
                      Link?
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                      • Kermit
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                        • 09-27-10
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by The Giant
                        Link?
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                        • sourtwist
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                          • 11-10-12
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                          #117
                          Muslim convert?
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #118
                            I can only imagine being a young 20 year old kid again and joining the military and being sent off to war in the middle east.. You get fired up and you are gun ho!!! GO AMERICA!!

                            You then get shipped out and get out there, start to see real combat day after day.. You begin to wear down mentally, see shiit you never imagined, your life is in real danger constantly.. Bullets and bombs going off around you... You then begin to think this isn't so cool after all and you start to miss home and family..

                            War sucks!!!!

                            I'm a older guy and I think I could handle it today but as a 20 year old kid with my full life ahead of me I think I could get rattled.. I can see how vets can get PTSD.. All you know is the desert and your war buddies, some have died and you saw that happen.. Shit got real...

                            I have sympathy for war vets, I really do.. If you are remotely religious also there are those pesty 10 commandments and one says thou shall not kill.. Taking another mans life can rattle you also especially when close up...

                            I think about these things and feel sympathy for war veterans.. That shiiit changes your life...
                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 11-08-18, 09:56 PM.
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                            • The Giant
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                              • 01-21-12
                              • 21480

                              #119
                              Oh boy.
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                              • jjgold
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                                • 07-20-05
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                                #120
                                These cannot be prevented
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                                • pavyracer
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                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82710

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by slambam
                                  You're completely insane if you think every bar, restaurant, school, etc is going to get fukking guards covered in kevlar. How the hell is that the best option we have? We need to call on the national guard to cover every public place? GTFO.
                                  They have armed guards in Israel everywhere. No shootings at bars. We need security when we go out to drink.
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                                  • kidcudi92
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-14-11
                                    • 15434

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    These cannot be prevented
                                    Yep

                                    Can say all you want about guns in this thread

                                    Too many guns available even if you ban/whatever dumb idea

                                    Doesn’t matter now

                                    Have to deal with it and adjust to how things are
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                                    • Thor4140
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                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                      Of course he was a vet. Trained to kill and did just that. We refuse to address the real problems. We have too many fukking guns and too many people that are mentally unfit. Reduce the amount of guns (someway, somehow) and find ways to provide mental health to 1/5 of the country who are fukking nuts. Nowhere is safe because EVERYWHERE has it's share of people who are dealing with mental health. for every 5 people you see, 1 is dealing with mental health. They are at your school, your work, your local grocery store. It's a ticking time bomb and when you provide gun access easier than buying a six pack. WTF do you expect?
                                      It is also a product of those two douchebags Cheney and Bush who lied us into war. I said ten years ago this would be a problem with some of these vets and here it is. You are 18years old and walking in on heads chopped off and all kinds of other sickening shit some are gonna snap.
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                                      • Thor4140
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                                        • 02-09-08
                                        • 22296

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        You got a trained Marine and war vet wanting to shoot up a joint and throwing smoke.. Not much you can do about that armed or not and that's why a cop died trying to rush in.. I'm surprised he didn't kill more..

                                        That shiits like Rambo...
                                        Your govt shouldn’t lie u into war. That is how this one could have been avoided
                                        Last edited by Thor4140; 11-08-18, 10:59 PM.
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                                        • Thor4140
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                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 22296

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by 7deuceoff$uit
                                          Very sad to see one of my Marine brothers go down this dark road. I can only hope that other vets keep an eye out for one another, and guide those who are troubled to the proper treatment so that these types of tragedies are avoided.
                                          That is a terrific post. You guys deserve the best care possible.
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            Your govt shouldn’t lie u into war. That is how this one could have been avoided
                                            You have a choice.. Government may lie but it doesn't force you to enlist...
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                                            • Demonata
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                                              • 07-12-11
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                                              #127
                                              The mass shooting was that overtime game tonight between boston and phoenix!!!
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Demonata
                                                The mass shooting was that overtime game tonight between boston and phoenix!!!
                                                That was nuts.. Bad teams do find a way to lose.. Great live bet odds in that game for Boston if you had the nads to take it in the 4th Quarter...

                                                Warriors laying an egg right now.. Hoping they come back.. Crazy night of hoops so far..
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                                                • Demonata
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                                                  • 07-12-11
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  That was nuts.. Bad teams do find a way to lose.. Great live bet odds in that game for Boston if you had the nads to take it in the 4th Quarter...

                                                  Warriors laying an egg right now.. Hoping they come back.. Crazy night of hoops so far..
                                                  Screw it all about ufc Saturday. Best sport there is
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                                                  • King Mayan
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                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                    • 21326

                                                    #130
                                                    Another white terrorist
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83686

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                      Another white terrorist
                                                      Whites still aren't the problem in America, read the facts below and learn Mayan.. Wiki...



                                                      The rate at which crime is committed varies greatly between racial groups. While most homicides in the United States are intraracial—the perpetrator and victim are of the same race—the rates at which African Americans (blacks) both commit and are the victim of homicide is about six to eight times higher than that of white Americans. The incarceration rate of blacks is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.[2]


                                                      Jibs always breaking it down and keeping it real for the simple minded and blinded on this forum..I only bring the truth... All lives matter just for the record in my book..
                                                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 11-09-18, 12:26 AM.
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                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                        • 22296

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                        Another white terrorist
                                                        Looks like Dom lemon was right. Can’t believe it took so long for another mass shooting in our country. Almost 11 days i think.
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                                                        • Demonata
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                                                          • 07-12-11
                                                          • 25829

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Whites still aren't the problem in America, read the facts below and learn Mayan.. Wiki...



                                                          The rate at which crime is committed varies greatly between racial groups. While most homicides in the United States are intraracial—the perpetrator and victim are of the same race—the rates at which African Americans (blacks) both commit and are the victim of homicide is about six to eight times higher than that of white Americans. The incarceration rate of blacks is more than three times higher than their representation in the general population.[2]


                                                          Jibs always breaking it down and keeping it real for the simple minded and blinded on this forum..I only bring the truth... All lives matter just for the record in my book..
                                                          Exactly!!!
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            • 09-27-10
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            Looks like Dom lemon was right. Can’t believe it took so long for another mass shooting in our country. Almost 11 days i think.
                                                            There have actually been 11 mass shootings since the Synagogue shooting in Pittsburgh.

                                                            Gun Violence Archive (GVA) is a not for profit corporation formed in 2013 to provide free online public access to accurate information about gun-related violence in the United States. GVA will collect and check for accuracy, comprehensive information about gun-related violence in the U.S. and then post and disseminate it online.
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                                                            • kidcudi92
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                                                              • 12-14-11
                                                              • 15434

                                                              #135
                                                              All I know is in Indiana I feel good/safe because everywhere I go, multiple people are armed including myself, whether it be the Store/Restaurant/Whatever


                                                              Most folks who dare to even try and break in/rob/whatever end up dead or shot up


                                                              We exercise our rights here and motherfukkers know it



                                                              Some drunk random black dude kicked my friend's door in(totally odd for my town, no affiliation with this dude EVER), dude was lucky the Police response was so quick (2 min or less) or he was about to meet his maker at the end of a .357



                                                              Just a street over and dude ran into my neighborhood, i was ready to scope ole boy with some 7.62
                                                              Last edited by kidcudi92; 11-09-18, 01:41 AM.
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                                                              • VeggieDog
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                                                                • 02-21-09
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by wikkidinsane
                                                                Im not for banning guns period. I own one.
                                                                Beware the man that owns only one gun - he probably knows how to use it.
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                                                                • VeggieDog
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                                                                  • 02-21-09
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                  All I know is in Indiana I feel good/safe because everywhere I go, multiple people are armed including myself, whether it be the Store/Restaurant/Whatever

                                                                  In my small town in Nevada, several people open carry. I can't imagine how many (like me) are carrying concealed. Even when I choose not to carry, I feel safe everywhere I go because I know a lot of good people are armed.
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                                                                  • kidcudi92
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-14-11
                                                                    • 15434

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by VeggieDog
                                                                    In my small town in Nevada, several people open carry. I can't imagine how many (like me) are carrying concealed. Even when I choose not to carry, I feel safe everywhere I go because I know a lot of good people are armed.
                                                                    It’s been a long time since I’ve been out in public and NOT seen a fellow open carrier (then as you said, even more probably carry concealed)

                                                                    Folks that know how to use them too, not just random “oh look I have a gun!” jackoffs (you can just tell by the person)
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                                                                    • wikkidinsane
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 05-30-10
                                                                      • 13799

                                                                      #139
                                                                      That father speaking brought me to tears. I will never get caught without my piece in places where i can carry. We need better laws to lessen the possibility of this. He was mentally ill. Yeh the stricters laws wont prevent alll mass shootings, it will make it harder.
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                                                                      • bigtymer56
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-31-12
                                                                        • 4742

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by kidcudi92
                                                                        All I know is in Indiana I feel good/safe because everywhere I go, multiple people are armed including myself, whether it be the Store/Restaurant/Whatever


                                                                        Most folks who dare to even try and break in/rob/whatever end up dead or shot up


                                                                        We exercise our rights here and motherfukkers know it



                                                                        Some drunk random black dude kicked my friend's door in(totally odd for my town, no affiliation with this dude EVER), dude was lucky the Police response was so quick (2 min or less) or he was about to meet his maker at the end of a .357



                                                                        Just a street over and dude ran into my neighborhood, i was ready to scope ole boy with some 7.62
                                                                        Ehh...you sound way to excited about using your gun(s) on people. What does the last sentence even mean? What was the guy doing?
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