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  • Mr KLC
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    • 12-19-07
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    #1
    Timberwolves Are Imploding From Within
    Jimmy Butler will reportedly meet with the Timberwolves today to discuss his future in Minnesota. It’s no secret Butler and Karl-Anthony Towns have tension. Towns has yet to sign his rookie-scale contract extension.

    Apparently, the dots connect.

    Shams Charania:

    There’s been a lot of uncertainty around Jimmy Butler all summer. He hasn’t been back to Minnesota. This is going to be a telltale week for him. Very much so, I’m told, this a last-ditch meeting for the Minnesota Timberwolves and Tom Thibodeau, and how they respond and how Jimmy responds to it will be interesting.

    Karl-Anthony Towns, who’s one of the top talents in the league, has yet to sign to sign his rookie max extension, which should be a no-brainer. And I’m told there won’t be any decision on that until this Jimmy Butler situation resolves itself.

    If Minnesota must choose between Towns and Butler, Towns – six years younger and much healthier – is the clear choice. I think, even with his affection for former Bulls, Thibodeau knows that.

    The bigger question: Can Thibodeau get everyone on the same page? It’d be ideal for the Timberwolves to keep both their stars.

    Butler can become an unrestricted free agent next summer, and if he doesn’t sign an extension by 6 p.m. Eastern on Oct. 15, Towns will be a restricted free agent next summer. So, there’s little risk of losing Towns soon. But if letting Butler leave is required to keep Towns long-term, it’d be better to trade Butler now rather than letting him walk for nothing next offseason.

    Today’s meeting could provide clarity, but one way or another, Minnesota is clearly in a tough spot.
  • Mr KLC
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    • 12-19-07
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    #2
    Take the under of 45 1/2 wins. A team imploding in the NBA Western Conference is not a good combination.
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    • IBetYou
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      • 07-03-15
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      #3
      It's not surprising they clash. Butler talks tough and plays like it. Towns talks tough but is a softie.
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      • IBetYou
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        • 07-03-15
        • 8153

        #4
        Wiggins has rejected his NT since the disappointment of the '15 FIBA Americas. Alarm bells there ...if you enjoy basketball you play for your NT.
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        • ikid2groove415
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          • 01-08-18
          • 11981

          #5
          I put butler in the rare elite 2 way players with Leonard:Thompson/PG- Trade towns - ( no toughness)
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          • Mr KLC
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            • 12-19-07
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            #6
            Originally posted by IBetYou
            It's not surprising they clash. Butler talks tough and plays like it. Towns talks tough but is a softie.
            Butler is a true leader. These snowflakes need to learn from him instead of bitching about him.
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            • krk1030
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              • 08-13-08
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              #7
              Team needs shooting. Nobody on that team can make 3's.

              They should call Washington about a beal for butler swap.
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              • ikid2groove415
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                • 01-08-18
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                #8
                Originally posted by krk1030
                Team needs shooting. Nobody on that team can make 3's.

                They should call Washington about a beal for butler swap.
                Lollollol - butler is way better then Beal
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                • IBetYou
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                  • 07-03-15
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                  Butler is a true leader. These snowflakes need to learn from him instead of bitching about him.
                  I wouldn't say he's a true leader. Fighter yes, leader no! He didn't lead the Bulls, and now he's not leading the Pups. He has issues -which isn't surprising when you consider his mother kicked him onto the streets because she didn't like the look of him no more.
                  Last edited by IBetYou; 09-18-18, 04:41 PM.
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                  • unusialsusp5
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                    • 04-18-10
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                    #10
                    butler and kyrie irving will be playing for the knicks in 2019-2020. book it.
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                    • krk1030
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                      • 08-13-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                      Lollollol - butler is way better then Beal
                      and both teams have serious chemistry issues....
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                      • turtlejc
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                        • 10-18-11
                        • 3958

                        #12
                        the minnesota Timberbulls
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                        • ikid2groove415
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                          • 01-08-18
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by krk1030
                          and both teams have serious chemistry issues....
                          T-Pupps set back because towns can’t take that next step - Fat ass tibbs won’t be around long
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83693

                            #14
                            These players get paid millions and still bitch and moan.. More NBA drama garbage.. Spoiled brats..

                            You sign a contract you should honor it like a man and go out of your way to get along with your teammates I say. Keep your mouth shut until your contract is over..

                            I hate when players demand a trade after they signed a contract...
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                            • unusialsusp5
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                              • 04-18-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              These players get paid millions and still bitch and moan.. More NBA drama garbage.. Spoiled brats..

                              You sign a contract you should honor it like a man and go out of your way to get along with your teammates I say. Keep your mouth shut until your contract is over..

                              I hate when players demand a trade after they signed a contract...
                              except when the team you signed with trades you to a place you do not want to go to.
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                              • IBetYou
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                                • 07-03-15
                                • 8153

                                #16
                                Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                except when the team you signed with trades you to a place you do not want to go to.
                                Well that's in the collective bargaining agreement. If they don't like it there's other leagues. Not that Butler is demanding a trade anyway.
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                                • Mr KLC
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                                  • 12-19-07
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                  butler and kyrie irving will be playing for the knicks in 2019-2020. book it.
                                  The Nets might have something to say about it.
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                                  • ikid2groove415
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                                    • 01-08-18
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                                    #18
                                    Butler is a good number 2 option- wouldn’t want him leading my team -
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                                    • DOM_Toretto
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                                      • 01-28-13
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                                      #19
                                      Butler will be wearing a Lakers jersey in the 2018-19 season. Book it.
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        • 12-10-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by unusialsusp5
                                        except when the team you signed with trades you to a place you do not want to go to.
                                        Should have signed a no trade clause.. He didn't and shiiit happens.. Should still zip it, get paid and play ball to the best of his ability until his contract is up.

                                        Earn those millions and you owe it to fans to play hard and your best always for any team you play for I think....
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                                        • MinnesotaFats
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                                          • 12-18-10
                                          • 14758

                                          #21
                                          There's a meeting w mgmt tomorrow

                                          I think this is basically "are you going to sign for $120mm or should we start shopping you?"

                                          Butler doesn't like being in MN and I don't blame him...he's a worldly traveler

                                          The beef w KAT is a smokescreen

                                          Absent a long term deal Butler will wind up playing w Kyrie somewhere on a coast
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                                          • phinfan27615
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                                            • 07-10-17
                                            • 1837

                                            #22
                                            Trade him to the knicks then we are getting kyrie and kd
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              • 12-10-09
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                                              #23
                                              Every ball player wants to come LA and play with the Lakers and Lebron now in this huge market to maybe win a championship, I know I would.. That is a first choice I'm sure even for Butler..

                                              Endorsements and player recognition in a big market is key...
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                Butler will be wearing a Lakers jersey in the 2018-19 season. Book it.
                                                Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Wagner for Butler and Bates-Diop?
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                                                • DOM_Toretto
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                                                  • 01-28-13
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  Ball, Ingram, Kuzma and Wagner for Butler?
                                                  Subtract Ball and/or Kuzma, and add in a draft pick IMO
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                    Subtract Ball and/or Kuzma, and add in a draft pick IMO
                                                    Doesn't seem like the numbers work without both. I amended to send back Bates-Diop.
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                                                    • lakerboy
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                                                      • 04-02-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Thibs LOLOL
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                                                      • unusialsusp5
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        Every ball player wants to come LA and play with the Lakers and Lebron now in this huge market to maybe win a championship, I know I would.. That is a first choice I'm sure even for Butler..

                                                        Endorsements and player recognition in a big market is key...
                                                        somehow i don't think players are lining up or dreaming about playing with lebron. i guarantee that their dreams first and foremost are about getting a max contract in a city they like. butler's first choice is to play with irving in ny area. 2nd choice would be LA.
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                                                        • ikid2groove415
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                                                          • 01-08-18
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Every ball player wants to come LA and play with the Lakers and Lebron now in this huge market to maybe win a championship, I know I would.. That is a first choice I'm sure even for Butler..

                                                          Endorsements and player recognition in a big market is key...
                                                          Lollolol - most superstars don’t wanna play with Lebron - how long will lebron and the love affair of LA Last? Once he knows he can’t win with garbage -
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            • 12-10-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            ^^^Some superstars may not want to play with Lebron but they want to play in LA.. Weather and endorsements... Why do you think Lebron came to LA????

                                                            Lakers are in the process of making things happens and have the money to spend...
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                                                            • The Giant
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                                                              • 01-21-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                              Butler will be wearing a Lakers jersey in the 2018-19 season. Book it.
                                                              The Lakers won't be trading for him when they could just sign him as a free agent during the 2019 summer. I've heard he might end up in New York with Kyrie.
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                                                              • ikid2groove415
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                                                                • 01-08-18
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                ^^^Some superstarts may not want to play with Lebron but they want to play in LA.. Weather and endorsements...
                                                                Jibbs LA isn’t a special place now - with all the social media now - you can get exposure everywhere ( can’t beat the weather tho)
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                                                                • rollie_t651
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                                                                  • 10-18-14
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  As a lifelong Wolves fan, this is normal. Thibs and Taylor will screw it up. These are the days of our lives.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ikid2groove415
                                                                    Jibbs LA isn’t a special place now - with all the social media now - you can get exposure everywhere ( can’t beat the weather tho)
                                                                    LA still the biggest market.. With Lebron you will win.. Make a bigger name for yourself.. Get paid max. When free agency comes around and Lebron is to old you can go else where.. I can go on and on.. Lakers are on verge of being a solid contender now..
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                                                                    • ikid2groove415
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                                                                      • 01-08-18
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      LA still the biggest market.. With Lebron you will win.. Make a bigger name for yourself.. Get paid max. When free agency comes around and Lebron is to old you can go else where.. I can go on and on.. Lakers are on verge of being a solid contender now..
                                                                      Lakers Probly 2nd best team in the WEST- I don’t know what the fck Houston is doing - lost 2 good perimeter defender and add a garbage guy like MeLo- that gives zero fcks about defense - they will regress - also
                                                                      A old roster
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