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  • goduke
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-17-10
    • 11580

    #106
    Originally posted by SilverSpoon111
    Duke you've been riding my sack since i got here.

    Correct you admitted to having another account. I’m letting people know. Transparency. Maybe just come out and say what ghost account this is and I’ll let it be
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    • SilverSpoon111
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-20-18
      • 545

      #107
      Originally posted by goduke
      Correct you admitted to having another account. I’m letting people know. Transparency. Maybe just come out and say what ghost account this is and I’ll let it be
      How old are you im being serious? You worry this much on a "ghost" accounts is to funny i mean it's actually pathetic how about post something useful you been here since 2010 and your not even pro what are you captain save a ghost? get laid smoke a joint do something useful.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #108
        Originally posted by SilverSpoon111
        How old are you im being serious? You worry this much on a "ghost" accounts is to funny i mean it's actually pathetic how about post something useful you been here since 2010 and your not even pro what are you captain save a ghost? get laid smoke a joint do something useful.
        There is merit to this question tho, thus far I’ve liked you and think you a far more solid contributor or potentially anyways than half the worthless posters round here.

        That said imo there nothing worse than guys who continually start new handles in a attempt to cover up anything from being douche bags previously or more common especially around football season you get all the clowns who dream of being touts starting yet another handle in a attempt to get hot and scam some desperate idiots.

        I’d say we get at least a couple dozen retreads a year boasting about their “skills” at betting the nfl and it just some dickhead that has said same thing last 3 years with different handles and failed miserably. These losers playing the odds that eventually they will have a good season (or half season) and can flip that into the more desperate types signing up for their “service”.

        Certainly not saying this is you but this is why the question needs to be asked and anytime a guy comes around who “new” we gonna be skeptical. Hopefully you understand and are not one of those. Far as I’m concerned if you say you not I’ll give you benefit of the doubt until signs of a wanna be tout start surfacing.
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        • str
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-12-09
          • 11508

          #109
          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
          WE need STR"s opinion to settle the matter. STR check in. Replay is in the thread.
          From what I see at the 1:25 mark Easy, the rider on the 6 DID move the bit towards the back of the sixes mouth momentarily before riding aggressively around the turn to no avail. But every rider in view did the same thing as well they should have. These are cheap green babies going into a turn running 33 MPH and you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. Any rider that wouldn't take a slight hold on one of those babies going into that turn going 5 1/2 is crazy and not long for the stirrups they are in. IMO, I did not categorize any of that as pulling back.

          Without the head on view which I feel is key , I can't fully expound. But what was clear was the only horse that was well taught was Kathy's horse, the winner. The front three horses were all a mess in their own ways. I can elaborate if anyone wants me to ( just let me know) but it is mostly racing blah, blah, blah... Not many care. They just want a winner, or a car ride if you are JJ leaving Penn. Nat.(Nice video).

          I don't get the didn't like the price angle. I totally understand the bettors logic in this and in every race they see. Their sole reason for being there is to cash a ticket. They are single minded in that regard as I was prior to my time working there. I completely respect that. But I saw no actions by the rider that would lead me to that conclusion. That is just my opinion.

          When you work at the track everyday and are running a business, especially one that has THAT much detail involved, everything that a bettor sees happen is not all about cashing a ticket. On the contrary, virtually nothing is.

          As I have said in my thread, plenty of betting opportunities arise without ever trying to create one if someone so desires. Yes, you have your handful of people that try and manipulate a horse's form or whatever. But as I have also said, I would have loved to have had my own betting window for those same handful of people that are trying to cash tickets because they have inside info. The backstretch is notorious for bad gamblers. (I could not believe it either.)
          The failure rate is high. The ROI over time is minus. It really didn't matter who it was. That is what I witnessed in my time there.

          No disrespect to the poster trying to share winners. Good luck, but be careful would be my advise.

          As for the topic of what could have happened to the 6 horse to drop back that way? Empire Maker ( What a GREAT horse), nailed it. Post 98 is worth a reread. He is spot on.

          LT was probably right IMO as well.

          As for the bettors viewpoint there is nothing that I could add to 2DaBank's several posts. No way I could have said it any better. His posts are also a worthwhile reread.

          That's my opinion.

          Hope it helps.
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          • Easy-Rider 66
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-12
            • 36047

            #110
            Thx STR for your take. Thought it would be ideal to have a professional speak to the matter at hand about the GP race yesterday.
            Last edited by Easy-Rider 66; 08-04-18, 11:20 AM.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388189

              #111
              Lol horse racing

              So many suckers got big money on horses and they don’t even know the jockeys holding it back and it’s not going away and it’s call legal fixing

              They rest the horse to get better odds in the future but too many suckers don’t know that
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              • SilverSpoon111
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-20-18
                • 545

                #112
                Originally posted by str
                From what I see at the 1:25 mark Easy, the rider on the 6 DID move the bit towards the back of the sixes mouth momentarily before riding aggressively around the turn to no avail. But every rider in view did the same thing as well they should have. These are cheap green babies going into a turn running 33 MPH and you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. Any rider that wouldn't take a slight hold on one of those babies going into that turn going 5 1/2 is crazy and not long for the stirrups they are in. IMO, I did not categorize any of that as pulling back.

                Without the head on view which I feel is key , I can't fully expound. But what was clear was the only horse that was well taught was Kathy's horse, the winner. The front three horses were all a mess in their own ways. I can elaborate if anyone wants me to ( just let me know) but it is mostly racing blah, blah, blah... Not many care. They just want a winner, or a car ride if you are JJ leaving Penn. Nat.(Nice video).

                I don't get the didn't like the price angle. I totally understand the bettors logic in this and in every race they see. Their sole reason for being there is to cash a ticket. They are single minded in that regard as I was prior to my time working there. I completely respect that. But I saw no actions by the rider that would lead me to that conclusion. That is just my opinion.

                When you work at the track everyday and are running a business, especially one that has THAT much detail involved, everything that a bettor sees happen is not all about cashing a ticket. On the contrary, virtually nothing is.

                As I have said in my thread, plenty of betting opportunities arise without ever trying to create one if someone so desires. Yes, you have your handful of people that try and manipulate a horse's form or whatever. But as I have also said, I would have loved to have had my own betting window for those same handful of people that are trying to cash tickets because they have inside info. The backstretch is notorious for bad gamblers. (I could not believe it either.)
                The failure rate is high. The ROI over time is minus. It really didn't matter who it was. That is what I witnessed in my time there.

                No disrespect to the poster trying to share winners. Good luck, but be careful would be my advise.

                As for the topic of what could have happened to the 6 horse to drop back that way? Empire Maker ( What a GREAT horse), nailed it. Post 98 is worth a reread. He is spot on.

                LT was probably right IMO as well.

                As for the bettors viewpoint there is nothing that I could add to 2DaBank's several posts. No way I could have said it any better. His posts are also a worthwhile reread.

                That's my opinion.

                Hope it helps.
                That's whats great about about this game i no people call for you and ur respected but i also did this for a living for a little over 2 years so i no what im talking about as well thats what makes this game great and hard at the same time everybody can have there own opinion i can tell people that know horse racing and people who just like to talk shit like the guy who had 4 posts in a year saying 23 and change is to fast for 6 furlongs lol those comments are moronic.
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                • SilverSpoon111
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 07-20-18
                  • 545

                  #113
                  And like i said first time starter was 7/1 3 minutes to post dropped down to 2/1 the owner of the horse is also the trainer dont forget that part and people that dont believe if they no they have a horse thats going to run well and it drops down from 7/1 to 2/1 theres no value when you can run that horse back in 2 or 3 weeks and possibly get 10/1+ on a horse you no is sitting ono a big one 99% of the time first time starters get bet from the jump of betting not the last 3 minutes.
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                  • McCracken
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 08-01-18
                    • 9

                    #114
                    Hey Guys, Sorry about yesterday, Silverspoon is right. My father said the horse quit because next week it will run again and win, so keep that horse in mind.. There are TWO great horses running today..THIS HORSE IS COMING OFF A SHARP EFFORT in the last month !! Im gonna make this short and sweet #4 EL TOCAYO MoneyLine=4/1 Delaware Park - Race #2 - Post: 1:45pm - Claiming , Also Race 9 at SARATOGA the #8 McCracken !!! We Will go 2 for 2 today guys, Again Keep the Faith with these winners.
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                    • SilverSpoon111
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-20-18
                      • 545

                      #115
                      Originally posted by McCracken
                      Hey Guys, Sorry about yesterday, Silverspoon is right. My father said the horse quit because next week it will run again and win, so keep that horse in mind.. There are TWO great horses running today..THIS HORSE IS COMING OFF A SHARP EFFORT in the last month !! Im gonna make this short and sweet #4 EL TOCAYO MoneyLine=4/1 Delaware Park - Race #2 - Post: 1:45pm - Claiming , Also Race 9 at SARATOGA the #8 McCracken !!! We Will go 2 for 2 today guys, Again Keep the Faith with these winners.

                      To many horses to many days i can tell your bullshitting now if you came in 1 time ever 3 or 4 weeks and said a horse and they actually ran well i would maybe believe you this is 3 days straight now nobody in horse racing knows about that many horses lol also why on earth would you crush you value my posting it on all these websites?????????
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388189

                        #116
                        lol another tout

                        when does it end?????

                        People that bet horses all the time get crushed, its a bad addiction
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63165

                          #117
                          McCraken seems to be a wealth of info. Some of the Brass here at SBR want me to set him up with a sub forum of his own and develop a little video to share at other sites to plug his picks and info
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                          • SilverSpoon111
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 07-20-18
                            • 545

                            #118
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            lol another tout

                            when does it end?????

                            People that bet horses all the time get crushed, its a bad addiction
                            98.1% percent of people who bet over the counter or online at the end of the year will lose small small small few who bet once in a while on spot bets or "inside knowledge" win....Most of the sharpest horse racing handicappers in the world are tournament players now that;s why i loved it your going against the best in the world on derbywars and horsetourneys.
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                            • Easy-Rider 66
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 02-14-12
                              • 36047

                              #119
                              Originally posted by SilverSpoon111
                              98.1% percent of people who bet over the counter or online at the end of the year will lose small small small few who bet once in a while on spot bets or "inside knowledge" win....Most of the sharpest horse racing handicappers in the world are tournament players now that;s why i loved it your going against the best in the world on derbywars and horsetourneys.
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                              • big joe 1212
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-01-08
                                • 19379

                                #120
                                And he has tips on horses all over the east coast
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                                • biggie12
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-30-05
                                  • 13781

                                  #121
                                  its like the blind leading the blind.

                                  STR...... dont these threads make you laugh and also cry at the same time?
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                                  • big joe 1212
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-01-08
                                    • 19379

                                    #122
                                    So will McCraken bet McCraken in the Whitney today?
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #123
                                      Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 🐎
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                                      • biggie12
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-30-05
                                        • 13781

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 🐎
                                        is this south asian JJ checking in?? Never claimed to make any money betting horses..... i made approx 43k usd this month how many posts hours posting non sense for that?
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388189

                                          #125
                                          You didn’t make 43,000 you remind me of that other poster big business
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                                          • str
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-12-09
                                            • 11508

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by biggie12
                                            its like the blind leading the blind.

                                            STR...... dont these threads make you laugh and also cry at the same time?
                                            Yes Biggie it really does.
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65086

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 
                                              biggie went pro after his latest run

                                              GIVE HIM CREDIT THERE
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                                              • drpugilist
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 08-06-17
                                                • 11

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                                You have to take these tips with a grain of salt, don't you ?
                                                yeah of course but I mean if someone posts a play is that how they get treated around here? and the horse won! then it was that the price wasnt good enough...just seems kind of silly
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                                                • drpugilist
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 08-06-17
                                                  • 11

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by SilverSpoon111
                                                  That's whats great about about this game i no people call for you and ur respected but i also did this for a living for a little over 2 years so i no what im talking about as well thats what makes this game great and hard at the same time everybody can have there own opinion i can tell people that know horse racing and people who just like to talk shit like the guy who had 4 posts in a year saying 23 and change is to fast for 6 furlongs lol those comments are moronic.
                                                  it WAS obviously to fast you dumb penetrate! did either of those two horse even hit the board? goddamn wtf do you not understand about what im trying to say.
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                                                  • trytrytry
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-13-06
                                                    • 23649

                                                    #130
                                                    very funny thread
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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65086

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by drpugilist
                                                      yeah of course but I mean if someone posts a play is that how they get treated around here? and the horse won! then it was that the price wasnt good enough...just seems kind of silly
                                                      Originally posted by drpugilist
                                                      it WAS obviously to fast you dumb penetrate! did either of those two horse even hit the board? goddamn wtf do you not understand about what im trying to say.
                                                      hey crackles

                                                      you have been signing in under the wrong account bro
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                                                      • drpugilist
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-06-17
                                                        • 11

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                        hey crackles

                                                        you have been signing in under the wrong account bro
                                                        have no clue who that is
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                                                        • drpugilist
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 08-06-17
                                                          • 11

                                                          #133
                                                          does that mean you think im a ghost of someone?
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                                                          • Chi_archie
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 63165

                                                            #134
                                                            cause im not the ghost of someone else, just long time reader of the site. now signed up to contribute
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                                                            • thomorino
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 06-01-17
                                                              • 45842

                                                              #135
                                                              Horse racing is such a sleazy sport, ridiculous that owners can have more than 1 horse in the race.
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                                                              • biggie12
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-30-05
                                                                • 13781

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                biggie went pro after his latest run

                                                                GIVE HIM CREDIT THERE
                                                                ive been a pro for 4 years
                                                                sbr pro means nothing at all i only became pro to do btp i give away my points to the less fortunate miyht have to start giving filipino JJ some he is clueless could use the help
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                                                                • Philmill
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-30-11
                                                                  • 4275

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by biggie12
                                                                  ive been a pro for 4 years
                                                                  sbr pro means nothing at all i only became pro to do btp i give away my points to the less fortunate miyht have to start giving filipino JJ some he is clueless could use the help

                                                                  jj gold winning.... his not talking.... his here for the looser bigs .....
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                                                                  • Jayvegas420
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 03-09-11
                                                                    • 28213

                                                                    #138
                                                                    I need 25 points biggie.....
                                                                    Operation coming up.

                                                                    TIA
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                                                                    • biggie12
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-30-05
                                                                      • 13781

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                                      I need 25 points biggie.....
                                                                      Operation coming up.

                                                                      TIA
                                                                      negroplasty?
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