DraftKings Sportsbook - NJ

**jjgold** · 08-02-18, 11:08 AM

Draft Kings

OMG I feel bad for NJ PLAYERS

**ICE-BLOOD** · 08-02-18, 12:45 PM

I remember alot of DraftKings advertisements for fantasy football a few years ago

espn had so many commercials

wonder if they will do something similar for sports betting

**mrpapageorgio** · 08-02-18, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by ICE-BLOOD

I remember alot of DraftKings advertisements for fantasy football a few years ago

espn had so many commercials

wonder if they will do something similar for sports betting

They will, which is the main advantage they will have to offshore. 5Dimes and Bookmaker can't advertise on ESPN or NBC or Fox during NFL games where DK and FD can.

**jjgold** · 08-02-18, 04:37 PM

I love all the square is getting their cocks hard here like they never made a wager in their life

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 08-02-18, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Do winners get booted?

-150 Yes
-150 Hell Yes

(juiced about the same as these shitty books will be)

**vividjohn45** · 08-02-18, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by sweep

Better get on board now JJ....only a matter of time before the Feds put a stop to all the illegal offshore books and their processors.

Black Friday all over again

I remember Black Friday 2009 when the feds knocked out several big boy online poker sites. Offshore no longer uses the .com though, which is how the feds busted them. .com gave them jurisdiction.

**jjgold** · 08-02-18, 05:45 PM

On balance, players on DraftKings will be subject to a commission in the 4% – 5% range, while at the Westgate, the vigorish averages out to around 2%. The differences between the two books is rather alarming, with NJ bettors getting by far the short end of the stick

**shocka1212** · 08-02-18, 07:33 PM

ill quit gambling before I drive to meadowlands to place a bet.

**jjgold** · 08-02-18, 08:01 PM

Legal betting whore shit

**yisman** · 08-02-18, 10:11 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I love all the square is getting their cocks hard here like they never made a wager in their life

cueball, are you saying DraftKings arouses you?

**johnnyvegas13** · 08-02-18, 10:13 PM

Guys saying juice is bad

not sounding promising

**shocka1212** · 08-03-18, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

Guys saying juice is bad

not sounding promising

not bad, horrible.

**jjgold** · 08-03-18, 05:31 AM

**yisman** · 08-03-18, 11:23 AM

I was invited Wednesday night and I didn't even realize it. I just opened it.

The spread/straddle is too wide. -165/+140 for example.

I'm going to make a bet because they're offering a free bet on my first wager but I have no use for it thereafter.

**jjgold** · 08-03-18, 11:59 AM

Its terrible

Man you have no shot playing at these legal books

Spreads too wide..live betting will even be worse

**Darkside Magick** · 08-03-18, 01:58 PM

The DraftKings Sportsbook debuted on Wednesday, making the daily fantasy sports-turned-sportsbook operator’s mobile sports betting app the first to hit the market in New Jersey — and further, the first legal betting app available anywhere outside Nevada. On the surface, pretty exciting!

Some recreational folks may be celebrating, but public reception has been lukewarm elsewhere and in some corners downright caustic because, like the FanDuel Sportsbook launch (in retail at the Meadowlands Racetrack) in mid-July, the baseball lines offered are just dismal compared to industry standards

First, just how many of its users don’t know that these prices are bad? Second, DK can see how many users bet the lines and cross-reference against their DFS histories. How many and what percentage of its users “invited” (likely MLB DFS players) will download the app are going to bet? They can then project how much of its database may download and play during football season, perhaps on -115 spread bet? The DraftKings run line pricing is more in line with industry norms. As evidenced by the dumbed-down terminology “Who Will Win?” instead of saying “money line” — they’re appealing to the recreational sports bettor. It’s possible the spread bets for football meet -110 norms and the money lines are elevated as here with baseball.

**bonzaii** · 08-03-18, 02:07 PM

Do you think people who buy lottery tickets or Joe Schmo care about spreads? They are catering to the people where you literally have to shove something right in their face just for them to even look at it. These are the type of people who don't even know that offshore even exists.

**jjgold** · 08-03-18, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by bonzaii

Do you think people who buy lottery tickets or Joe Schmo care about spreads? They are catering to the people where you literally have to shove something right in their face just for them to even look at it. These are the type of people who don't even know that offshore even exists.

exactly

two totally different players

**TheGuesser** · 08-03-18, 09:39 PM

DraftKings Sportsbook users got this survey, spelling error and all: Not sure if anyone can take the survey by clicking on the link, since I already took it, and it shows that when I click on it, but here it is.

SurveyMonkey 404

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/26PSPF3

Create and publish online surveys in minutes, and view results graphically and in real time. SurveyMonkey provides free online questionnaire and survey software.

Exclusive Opportunity – Give Us Your Feedback on DraftKings Sportsbook

You are part of a group of players who are getting an exclusive opportunity to provide feedback on the DraftKings Sportsbook product before it goes live to the rest of New Jersey! Take this quick survey (less than 2 minutes!) to let us know what you think

OK
Which of the following statements best describes your history with betting on sports? Please select all that apply.Question Title

* 1. Which of the following statements best describes your history with betting on sports? Please select all that apply.
Placed with a bookie in person or on the phone
Placed international / on an off short betting site
Placed with a friend
Placed in New Jersey at a casino/sportsbook
Placed with a bookie via an app
Placed in Nevada at a casino
None of the above

Please provide us feedback on your experience with the DraftKings Sportsbook product below.Question Title
* 2. Please provide us feedback on your experience with the DraftKings Sportsbook product below.
This is what I liked (please tell us):
This is what I disliked (please tell us):
This is what was confusing (please tell us):
This is what I would change (please tell us):

How likely, if at all, are you to continue to bet with the DraftKings Sportsbook product in the future?Question Title
* 3. How likely, if at all, are you to continue to bet with the DraftKings Sportsbook product in the future?
7 – Very likely
4 – Neither likely nor unlikely
1 – Not at all likely
Why did you say that?Question Title
* 4. Why did you say that?

**mrpapageorgio** · 08-04-18, 02:57 AM

That link works for anyone until you take it, then it remembers your computer through cookies so you can't retake it.

**TheGuesser** · 08-04-18, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

That link works for anyone until you take it, then it remembers your computer through cookies so you can't retake it.

Thanks. I wound up taking it multiple times on different browsers, and emphasized that they have to lower the vig to industry standards if they want to successfully compete. Maybe if enough people, whether they played there or not, take the survey, and drive that point home to them, they'll get the message?

**sweep** · 08-04-18, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Its terrible

Man you have no shot playing at these legal books

Spreads too wide..live betting will even be worse

so what happens when the feds shut down the offshore for US residents?

**Optional** · 08-04-18, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by sweep

so what happens when the feds shut down the offshore for US residents?

I guess you will have no choice but locals or legal.

But won't policing move to the states now?

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 09:54 AM

Feds interest in shutting down offshore gambling is gong to be zero outside of monetary transactions which they are not going to put any more effort into than now.

All indications are that the sportsbooks basic only interest is in football and possibly basketball. That is where they plan on making money and they have little interest in anything else.

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 10:22 AM

US sportsbooks are going with the Bovada model. They will focus on the major sports. If you want to bet baseball and tennis, go ahead at bad lines.

This will satisfy 90% of bettors and the rest can do what they want elsewhere.

With the taxes and operating costs they are going to have, they aren't doing anything but high margin stuff.

**jjgold** · 08-04-18, 10:25 AM

Correct guy

Play offshore

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Correct guy

Play offshore

If all I want to do is bet football and basketball, I can be pretty happy in the US. That will do it for most. Not a lot of business to be had on baseball.

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 10:44 AM

The way this will work is you will have the US operations try to capture the Bovada market in the US. They will get a good portion of that over time. Then at some point when the taxes are low enough, someone will get more aggressive and try to get the rest by offering overnights and finally openers. That will probably take 10 years and probably only in New York or New Jersey.

For almost everyone in the US, they will basically be able to bet Bovada. If they want more, they will have to go offshore.

**jjgold** · 08-04-18, 10:52 AM

people don't realize Vegas betting not open 24 hrs a day

a few have over nights at micro limits and I mean micro limits on the apps

Offshore 24 hrs a day

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

people don't realize Vegas betting not open 24 hrs a day

a few have over nights at micro limits and I mean micro limits on the apps

Offshore 24 hrs a day

Yeah, but you don't realize that most people do not bet overnights or 24 hours. They only bet Monday or later.

These US books are going to have 24-hour odds once they go online.

The bigger problem is that they are not only going to capture basically all of Bovada's market but they are going to capture almost all of the Bookmaker/BetOnline portion of that market. That is most of the market.

**jjgold** · 08-04-18, 11:08 AM

Bookmaker more for the advanced player

Those big places will never ever be dented , they are too entrenched all over the world

States have micro base to draw from.....offshore MEGAS MEGA BASES

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Bookmaker more for the advanced player

Those big places will never ever be dented , they are too entrenched all over the world

States have micro base to draw from.....offshore MEGAS MEGA BASES

They are going to get dented by the billions. They will still be around to take most of the professional action.

People will have a US account in which they make almost all of their bets and they will have an offshore for betting overnights, openers and higher limit bets.

If you are betting a Saturday football game on Saturday, you will just bet it with DraftKings.

**jjgold** · 08-04-18, 11:22 AM

Lol no you will not if you want better lines

Your a rookie kid , you have no idea

Offshore has mega mega mega mega credit accounts that would make your head spin

Credit players never turn to postop players bookmakers are celebrating in New Jersey a lot of them are reopening business because they know it’s gonna be so lucrative

Bookmaker can show you five accounts that will make more than all of the draft kings in a year combined

Lol

**KVB** · 08-04-18, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Derailer

US sportsbooks are going with the Bovada model. They will focus on the major sports. If you want to bet baseball and tennis, go ahead at bad lines.

This will satisfy 90% of bettors and the rest can do what they want elsewhere.

With the taxes and operating costs they are going to have, they aren't doing anything but high margin stuff.

This is plausible the focus will have to be on the popular stuff.

**Derailer** · 08-04-18, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Lol no you will not if you want better lines

Your a rookie kid , you have no idea

Offshore has mega mega mega mega credit accounts that would make your head spin

Credit players never turn to postop players bookmakers are celebrating in New Jersey a lot of them are reopening business because they know it’s gonna be so lucrative

Bookmaker can show you five accounts that will make more than all of the draft kings in a year combined

Lol

Not once US opens for business. This is a whole new world.

They are going to be looking to get all the fat part of the market and they are going to get most of it.

In the first few years not much will change. But in 5 years, major damage is going to take place.