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  • daneblazer
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    #1
    A’s just drafted Kyler Murray in the first round
    He has a decision to make now

    wow
  • daneblazer
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    #2
    9th overall. Damn
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    • jjgold
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      #3
      Most baseball picks are
      Busts


      The league is dominated by Latin players that are in the minor leagues and are way better than the top draft choices in the draft
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      • cincinnatikid513
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        #4
        has to be tough be an oakland a's fan
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        • daneblazer
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          Does he play this fall at OU?
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          • cincinnatikid513
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            #6
            Originally posted by daneblazer
            Does he play this fall at OU?
            sure does
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            • mpaschal34
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              #7
              What a wasted pick.
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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                #8
                Originally posted by daneblazer
                Does he play this fall at OU?
                He'd be a dumb ass if he did... You are a sure thing drafted in the first round. Football cannot compare to baseball from EVERY aspect professionally.


                Jeff Samardzija

                $83,125,000 Does not include future salaries ($39.6M)
                Here's the pitch that convinced Jeff to go baseball. Too bad Bo Jackson didn't do the same.

                Not only do baseball careers last far longer than football careers, they emphasized, but baseball contracts are guaranteed. The NFL's aren't. Though you'll likely spend a couple of years in the minor leagues, they told him, and though you'll probably be frustrated at times, your earning power eventually will be far greater in baseball. And the MLB players' union is a strong force, they noted, far better than the NFL's, which you will find to be another enormous benefit.




                One by one, they've faded away. Almost all of Jeff Samardzija's football-playing peers. Calvin Johnson. Brady Quinn. Reggie Bush. Matt Leinart. The names flip by as if from a ragged stack of football cards, relics from a bygone era.
                They are still young men, all in their early 30s. But the sport of football has very little patience for 30, an age when it is quick to usher its own off to the broadcast booth, or to charity work, or home to families. Someplace, anyplace, that is not on the field.
                Meanwhile, here in the San Francisco Giants' clubhouse and just getting warm in the second season of a five-year, $90 million deal, Samardzija pauses from completing a crossword puzzle long enough for me to take inventory of his body. Fingers? Pristine. Knees? One piece. Hips? Check.




                He smiles knowingly as I poke and prod, no medical license in sight. Long ago, he determined a civilized career in baseball easily outstrips the bumper-cars life of playing in the NFL. Reinforcement of that decision took some time. It wasn't until Johnson unexpectedly walked away from the Detroit Lions in March 2016 that Samardzija felt like the pigskin finally had stopped taunting him.
                "Signing this contract was big for me," Samardzija, who has started the season 0-5 with a 5.44 ERA, tells B/R. "I'm not a big money guy or anything, but when there is a definitive moment you can point to and say, 'This is when it made itself a better decision,' you can relax.
                "I'm not fighting that ghost anymore, trying to live up to not playing football. Which is tough, man. Baseball is tough enough, and then to throw more on your shoulders to perform better for a reason that's only in your own head is tough. It was good to kick that."
                Samardzija always thought he and Johnson were mirror images. They were in the same draft class. They finished one-two in the 2006 Biletnikoff Award voting for the college football's best receiver, Johnson winning with Samardzija right behind him. ("He was robbed," Brady Quinn, Samardzija's quarterback at Notre Dame, tells B/R. "He should have won. He had a better year.") Their senior seasons in '06, Samardzija and Johnson were spotlight players when Notre Dame, then ranked No. 2 in the country, opened with a pulsating 14-10 victory over Georgia Tech.



                The Cubs picked Samardzija in the fifth round of the 2006 MLB draft (149th overall). After his senior season at Notre Dame, he signed a five-year, $10 million deal. One predictable stipulation: If he returned to football, he would have to pay most of that money back to the Cubs.
                At the time, Quinn was not shocked by Samardzija's decision.
                "Jeff was always going to be successful whatever he chose," says Quinn, now a college football and NFL analyst for Fox Sports. "The type of athlete he was, his determination, whether it was football or baseball, he was going to be successful.
                "Obviously, the financial aspect of baseball was better. He saw that, and you're seeing that now."
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                • jjgold
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                  #9
                  Playing football man
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                  • cincinnatikid513
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                    He'd be a dumb ass if he did... You are a sure thing drafted in the first round. Football cannot compare to baseball from EVERY aspect professionally.


                    Jeff Samardzija

                    $83,125,000 Does not include future salaries ($39.6M)
                    Here's the pitch that convinced Jeff to go baseball. Too bad Bo Jackson didn't do the same.

                    Not only do baseball careers last far longer than football careers, they emphasized, but baseball contracts are guaranteed. The NFL's aren't. Though you'll likely spend a couple of years in the minor leagues, they told him, and though you'll probably be frustrated at times, your earning power eventually will be far greater in baseball. And the MLB players' union is a strong force, they noted, far better than the NFL's, which you will find to be another enormous benefit.




                    One by one, they've faded away. Almost all of Jeff Samardzija's football-playing peers. Calvin Johnson. Brady Quinn. Reggie Bush. Matt Leinart. The names flip by as if from a ragged stack of football cards, relics from a bygone era.
                    They are still young men, all in their early 30s. But the sport of football has very little patience for 30, an age when it is quick to usher its own off to the broadcast booth, or to charity work, or home to families. Someplace, anyplace, that is not on the field.
                    Meanwhile, here in the San Francisco Giants' clubhouse and just getting warm in the second season of a five-year, $90 million deal, Samardzija pauses from completing a crossword puzzle long enough for me to take inventory of his body. Fingers? Pristine. Knees? One piece. Hips? Check.




                    He smiles knowingly as I poke and prod, no medical license in sight. Long ago, he determined a civilized career in baseball easily outstrips the bumper-cars life of playing in the NFL. Reinforcement of that decision took some time. It wasn't until Johnson unexpectedly walked away from the Detroit Lions in March 2016 that Samardzija felt like the pigskin finally had stopped taunting him.
                    "Signing this contract was big for me," Samardzija, who has started the season 0-5 with a 5.44 ERA, tells B/R. "I'm not a big money guy or anything, but when there is a definitive moment you can point to and say, 'This is when it made itself a better decision,' you can relax.
                    "I'm not fighting that ghost anymore, trying to live up to not playing football. Which is tough, man. Baseball is tough enough, and then to throw more on your shoulders to perform better for a reason that's only in your own head is tough. It was good to kick that."
                    Samardzija always thought he and Johnson were mirror images. They were in the same draft class. They finished one-two in the 2006 Biletnikoff Award voting for the college football's best receiver, Johnson winning with Samardzija right behind him. ("He was robbed," Brady Quinn, Samardzija's quarterback at Notre Dame, tells B/R. "He should have won. He had a better year.") Their senior seasons in '06, Samardzija and Johnson were spotlight players when Notre Dame, then ranked No. 2 in the country, opened with a pulsating 14-10 victory over Georgia Tech.



                    The Cubs picked Samardzija in the fifth round of the 2006 MLB draft (149th overall). After his senior season at Notre Dame, he signed a five-year, $10 million deal. One predictable stipulation: If he returned to football, he would have to pay most of that money back to the Cubs.
                    At the time, Quinn was not shocked by Samardzija's decision.
                    "Jeff was always going to be successful whatever he chose," says Quinn, now a college football and NFL analyst for Fox Sports. "The type of athlete he was, his determination, whether it was football or baseball, he was going to be successful.
                    "Obviously, the financial aspect of baseball was better. He saw that, and you're seeing that now."
                    umm there are lots of first round baseball players that never sniff the majors,

                    then the mlb teams have control over the players for a long time
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                    • jjgold
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                      #11
                      He wants to be football star

                      Baseball easy to pick up later if he is legit
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                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        umm there are lots of first round baseball players that never sniff the majors,
                        then the mlb teams have control over the players for a long time
                        Who gives a shit??? His sign on bonus is probably going to be greater than what he'd make in his NFL career. Do you think he's going to be a 1st round NFL pick? Hell no, he's projected more like 2nd or 3rd if he pans out. He's a better baseball player than football player and if he did, what salary is higher long term? NFL salaries are not guaranteed. He's going to be competing with a shit load of other QBs. Plus he's short for a QB at 5'10". One big hit and his career is over.

                        He just went #9 in MLB. This is a no brainer.
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                        • cincinnatikid513
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                          Who gives a shit??? His sign on bonus is probably going to be greater than what he'd make in his NFL career. Do you think he's going to be a 1st round NFL pick? Hell no, he's projected more like 2nd or 3rd if he pans out. He's a better baseball player than football player and if he did, what salary is higher long term? NFL salaries are not guaranteed. He's going to be competing with a shit load of other QBs. Plus he's short for a QB at 5'10". One big hit and his career is over.

                          He just went #9 in MLB. This is a no brainer.
                          i don't know how good he is at football do u, he is supposed to be the starter at oklahoma this year, maybe he has a a big year and he projects to be a first round pick, he will make alot more money as 1st round nfl player than mlb
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                          • CWD
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                            i don't know how good he is at football do u, he is supposed to be the starter at oklahoma this year, maybe he has a a big year and he projects to be a first round pick, he will make alot more money as 1st round nfl player than mlb
                            At moment he isn't projected as an NFL player, period

                            And with his size he would be a fool to pass up this money thinking about a possible NFL qb career imo
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                            • daneblazer
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                              I think he was projected to go in the 2nd or so. A’s obviously feel he will play one more season at most then leave
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                i don't know how good he is at football do u, he is supposed to be the starter at oklahoma this year, maybe he has a a big year and he projects to be a first round pick, he will make alot more money as 1st round nfl player than mlb
                                I don't care if he's Johnny Unitas. A top 10 drafted MLB player is better than #1 in the NFL. Do you know how many busts in the NFL? Do you know how many are retired at 30? A bust in the MLB is better than a bust in the NFL. Plus it's better for your health as well. If he works hard and get's called up to the majors, let's say in 4 years, he's printing money that the NFL cannot touch. The most successful NFL players cannot compare to MLB and NBA contracts. Do your research...
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                                • Plaza23
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                                  #17
                                  I watched him at Texas AM and he was trash. He should stick to baseball.

                                  5'10 QB will never make it in the NFL, not with his skill set.
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                                  • 2daBank
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                    i don't know how good he is at football do u, he is supposed to be the starter at oklahoma this year, maybe he has a a big year and he projects to be a first round pick, he will make alot more money as 1st round nfl player than mlb
                                    Dunno who he even is but there far more money to be had and long term health to enjoy it in the MLB. I'd pick baseball every damn time given the choice.
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                                    • cincinnatikid513
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                      I don't care if he's Johnny Unitas. A top 10 drafted MLB player is better than #1 in the NFL. Do you know how many busts in the NFL? Do you know how many are retired at 30? A bust in the MLB is better than a bust in the NFL. Plus it's better for your health as well. If he works hard and get's called up to the majors, let's say in 4 years, he's printing money that the NFL cannot touch. The most successful NFL players cannot compare to MLB and NBA contracts. Do your research...
                                      let's stick with facts a top 10 mlb draft player is not better than the #1 nfl player

                                      Baker Mayfield, the No. 1 overall pick, who will earn approximately $32,993,327 over his rookie contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $22,185,523 signing bonus.

                                      MLB’s slot signing value for the ninth overall pick is about $4.7 million. If Murray signs with the A’s, it’s likely he’d get a signing bonus in that realm.
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                                      • CWD
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                                        #20
                                        Odds of this guy even going in first round NFL slim to none and you're talking about top pick overall lol
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                                        • cincinnatikid513
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                                          • 11-23-17
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                                          #21
                                          this is javier baez for the cubs who's 25 years old contract it's not so great


                                          2011 - $2,625,000 - $2,625,000
                                          2014 $150,273 - - $150,273
                                          2015 $91,516 - - $91,516
                                          2016 $521,000 - - $521,000
                                          2017 $609,000 - - $609,000
                                          2018 $657,000 - - $657,000
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                                          • pattymayo
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                                            #22
                                            But Baez will have his health and have the ability to earn a huge contract at 28 that will last into his 30s.

                                            Unless you’re a top NFLer you aren’t making what a decent baseball player can make over the course of each careee
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                                            • CWD
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                              this is javier baez for the cubs who's 25 years old contract it's not so great


                                              2011 - $2,625,000 - $2,625,000
                                              2014 $150,273 - - $150,273
                                              2015 $91,516 - - $91,516
                                              2016 $521,000 - - $521,000
                                              2017 $609,000 - - $609,000
                                              2018 $657,000 - - $657,000
                                              You didn't see the 2.6 million
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                                              • cincinnatikid513
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CWD
                                                You didn't see the 2.6 million
                                                yah 2.6 million signing bonus is nice but he won't make a big contract for a few more years, a top 10 nfl draft pick is looking at 20 million for their rookie contract, make alot more money faster in the nfl, in mlb you actually have to be good
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                  let's stick with facts a top 10 mlb draft player is not better than the #1 nfl player
                                                  Baker Mayfield, the No. 1 overall pick, who will earn approximately $32,993,327 over his rookie contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $22,185,523 signing bonus.MLB’s slot signing value for the ninth overall pick is about $4.7 million. If Murray signs with the A’s, it’s likely he’d get a signing bonus in that realm.
                                                  Cinci - MLB contracts are back loaded. The longer you play, the more you will make. The top 10 NFL players will get great guarantees but it's a crapshoot from there. Until they reup, they are not guaranteed anything after that first contract. 10 years from now, that top 10 MLB player should make more. Nothing is guaranteed. You can be a bust in both leagues but MLB will make more over that time period, unless you're 1 of the very few exceptional NFL players like Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, etc.
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                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                    Cinci - MLB contracts are back loaded. The longer you play, the more you will make. The top 10 NFL players will get great guarantees but it's a crapshoot from there. Until they reup, they are not guaranteed anything after that first contract. 10 years from now, that top 10 MLB player should make more. Nothing is guaranteed. You can be a bust in both leagues but MLB will make more over that time period, unless you're 1 of the very few exceptional NFL players like Brady, Ryan, Rodgers, etc.
                                                    Plus you won't be all fukked up with hip replacements, joint pain, maybe brain dead. So you can actually enjoy the money!!
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                                                    • CWD
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                      yah 2.6 million signing bonus is nice but he won't make a big contract for a few more years, a top 10 nfl draft pick is looking at 20 million for their rookie contract, make alot more money faster in the nfl, in mlb you actually have to be good
                                                      And like posted above, with his size and skill set now and since he projects nowhere even close to top ten let alone round one, he would be foolish to turn the A's down, at least imo
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                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                        yah 2.6 million signing bonus is nice but he won't make a big contract for a few more years, a top 10 nfl draft pick is looking at 20 million for their rookie contract, make alot more money faster in the nfl, in mlb you actually have to be good
                                                        I think he'll get a much bigger contract next year??? Similar to Mookie Betts who is over $10million after 4/5 years?
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                                                        • itchypickle
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                                                          #29
                                                          Sooner fans are biting their nails right now 3 months away from football kicking off.
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                                                          • sourtwist
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                            Sooner fans are biting their nails right now 3 months away from football kicking off.
                                                            Feel like i haven't seen you around in ages
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                                                            • itchypickle
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                                                              • 11-05-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sourtwist
                                                              Feel like i haven't seen you around in ages
                                                              I’m around just go into near hibernation on the forum until football season.
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                                                              • jjgold
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                                                                #32
                                                                Scouts think he has outstanding shot to be really good baseball
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                                                                • Derailer
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  If the A's drafted him ninth, they pretty much have a deal in place. The NFL is not an issue. The only issue is if he plays at OU this year.
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                                                                  • LT Profits
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    ANYONE that is equally good at baseball and other sports should choose baseball every single time. You would only choose the other sport if you are significantly better at it. If you are only slightly better at the other sport, you are still better off choosing baseball.
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                                                                    • gojetsgomoxies
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      have to agree with all those suggesting baseball is better route....... as mentioned, he's not very tall, which is a big thing for nfl QB (with some exceptions).... and as for comparing football and baseball financially, he has decent degree of financial security on table RIGHT NOW from baseball.

                                                                      i do wonder if he likes football better............ i think it's better to do baseball first and then go back to football way down the line if he wants (ala josh booty and some others, none of whom worked out that well)
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