Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen

**Microphone** · 05-14-18, 09:21 AM

Couldn't agree more JJ

**bonz** · 05-14-18, 09:22 AM

Which offshore book do you guys own?

**Hman** · 05-14-18, 09:26 AM

Agree & have said it several times:

*Legalization brings more interest to the hobby, thus more bettors.

*More bettors brings more competition.

*More competition brings the search from players for better deals such as bonuses, perks, free gifts like we used to see offshore

Bottom line is new & existing bettors are going to find fantastic deals Offshore in the future.

**jjgold** · 05-14-18, 09:26 AM

All the small books will be gone of course

The top seven are going to be outstanding

**tblues2005** · 05-14-18, 09:27 AM

Yes I do believe it will grow big time. Netteller could be back in business in the USA possibly.

**Hman** · 05-14-18, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by tblues2005

Yes I do believe it will grow big time. Netteller could be back in business in the USA possibly.

With legalization states will have to open portals again for players to fund & withdraw easily from accounts.

You just know offshore books will find a way to capitalize from this.

**cincinnatikid513** · 05-14-18, 09:30 AM

how bad does vegas get hurt

**Hman** · 05-14-18, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

how bad does vegas get hurt

Vegas has said for some time now they ate all for legalization & don't believe it will hurt them.

Matter of fact they saw this coming & around 2-3yrs ago agreed & passed something giving them the availability to offer services online out of state in the future.

**jjgold** · 05-14-18, 09:35 AM

I’m going to call pinnacle they should get back into the United States and wipe out every legal place

**Sam Odom** · 05-14-18, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

I’m going to call pinnacle...

Record it ... Post the recording

Be sure to tell'em who you are !

**jjgold** · 05-14-18, 09:46 AM

Sammy every book owner knows me

I can make or break booos with my power

**hubie69** · 05-14-18, 09:47 AM

I would like to see some of these books actually get a foothold in the US. IE pinnacle shops, or 5 dimes shops, etc. Let me walk down to the 5dimes corner store, deposit, and place my wagers from the website/app.

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-14-18, 09:50 AM

Keep telling yourself that.

Flood gates now wide open in the US

This is the equivalent of Black Friday in the poker world

**Hman** · 05-14-18, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by hubie69

I would like to see some of these books actually get a foothold in the US. IE pinnacle shops, or 5 dimes shops, etc. Let me walk down to the 5dimes corner store, deposit, and place my wagers from the website/app.

I'm sure mamy of them have had a plan for some time now

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 05-14-18, 09:55 AM

I disagree; bettors are going find out what kind of scamming cockroaches (with a few exceptions) the offshore books are. After experiencing KYC, withheld bonuses, cancelled bets and payouts that take two weeks, bettors are going to head to the brick and mortars.

**Philmill** · 05-14-18, 09:55 AM

William Hill going to set up shop in all the Indian gambling spots now....

**Sam Odom** · 05-14-18, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Philmill

William Hill going to set up shop in all the Indian gambling spots now....

**GT21Megatron** · 05-14-18, 10:05 AM

JJ this should be like Xmas for you. With this being legalized now all that red in your spreadsheet can be claimed on your taxes

**Bluehorseshoe** · 05-14-18, 10:06 AM

I'm not happy

**jtoler** · 05-14-18, 10:13 AM

whole 'nother dynamic and explanation goin on

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-14-18, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

I disagree; bettors are going find out what kind of scamming cockroaches (with a few exceptions) the offshore books are. After experiencing KYC, withheld bonuses, cancelled bets and payouts that take two weeks, bettors are going to head to the brick and mortars.

This ^^^^

Casual gambler isn’t going to care if he’s paying 5 cents more on a game.

I’m sure a mobile app is in place as well. This was as good as gold as soon as The NFL went to Vegas.

Laughable to think off shore has been planning for this. 5Dimes probably Sending Tony to Customer Service seminars as we speak.

**moojoo** · 05-14-18, 10:24 AM

This is end of BTC boys,mark my words. It will sink under 1000 soon.

**JohnGalt2341** · 05-14-18, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by bonz

Which offshore book do you guys own?

I've always wondered about this myself. I would guess BetOnline. Am I right?

Originally posted by jjgold

I’m going to call pinnacle they should get back into the United States and wipe out every legal place

Make it happen jj!

**Clutchut12** · 05-14-18, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

This is end of BTC boys,mark my words. It will sink under 1000 soon.

Great point just what i was thinking

**JIBBBY** · 05-14-18, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

I’m going to call pinnacle they should get back into the United States and wipe out every legal place

Yup, BET365 as well.. Be nice if us Americans living in the States can sign up to the books we are not allowed to now!!! That would be cool

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**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-14-18, 10:39 AM

Sbr moving bash to NJ

JJ still a no show

**ans61201** · 05-14-18, 10:42 AM

You keep pushing this theory, and it's dead wrong. You should see how much more people pay to buy crappy weed because they can run next door to buy it at a safe dispensary. This decision will kill overseas books shortly. The sketchiness of getting paid is not worth the 5 dollar lines to joe Bettor

**ans61201** · 05-14-18, 10:43 AM

I'd be weary once this starts spreading of having large balances on offshore sites

**shari91** · 05-14-18, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

I disagree; bettors are going find out what kind of scamming cockroaches (with a few exceptions) the offshore books are. After experiencing KYC, withheld bonuses, cancelled bets and payouts that take two weeks, bettors are going to head to the brick and mortars.

I agree with some of your points but I’ll always think KYC is a good thing for both gamblers and the book. And this is coming from someone who once started yelling -very very loudly- because my passport vs face was apparently not the same. I genuinely thought I was going to somehow kill a robot e-assistant!! If someone can’t pass KYC from a legit book or doesn’t even want to try to pass that only raises red flags on the bettor. 99% of us aren’t scammers so have nothing to worry about in order to access a very wide world out there gambling wise

**JIBBBY** · 05-14-18, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by ans61201

I'd be weary once this starts spreading of having large balances on offshore sites

That's the best part about this if this law hits all the States IMO... Can wager large amounts daily and not get cut off and stiffed like online books.. Place and collect same day. Security of Las Vegas Casino betting can't be beat..

Still most people including myself are not gonna wanna leg in bets daily to local sportsbooks when you have a dozen books online and can just hit a few buttons on your computer and place now...

Now if the local sportsbooks set up internet availability then that's a different story..

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-14-18, 10:55 AM

Mobile capabilities will be available soon enough.

**jjgold** · 05-14-18, 10:57 AM

Vegas is terrible to bet sports compared to offshore

Low limits
Bad lines
Bank Reports over 10k transactions

JUST TERRIBLE

In USA it will be a legal fee riddled mess

**Bluehorseshoe** · 05-14-18, 10:57 AM

You still have to pay taxes with legal books.

**capitalist pig** · 05-14-18, 11:03 AM

Its not about the wagering part so to speak, its about the pain in the ass of getting money in and out of offshore. For those of us who have been doing this forever we dont think much of it, but most people are not going to go through the BTC,CC,P2P, etc issues when they can walk up and place a wager and get paid with ease. IMO this will hurt offshore sooner or later. We seem to forget we are not the mainstream people here, those are the guys who just want to bet on their home town team on weekends, and for them offshore isnt worth it.

later