BREAKING: multiple fatalities and injuries following a reported explosion in England

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Funny but its not good Brain,we need them out their protesting with everyone else,because are government is f@cking useless.

its not meant to be funny bud, these are their protest, you want more of this in the streets?

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

its not meant to be funny bud, these are their protest, you want more of this in the streets?

Yeah I saw that,I meant the Muslims that love England like I do,they don't want to go back to living in an Islamic shit hole. My old man has worked for an Iranian for decades,good man that wanted a safe life over here.

**bosigga** · 05-26-17, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

What do you expect is going to happen,when were seeing it all over Western Europe,alot of bad shit has been happening not just bombings,alot of British mosques have been busted for having extreme teachings actually.

Investigation launched into possible extremist links at Cardiff mosque where three British jihadis worshipped

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746030/Investigation-launched-possible-extremist-links-Cardiff-mosque-three-British-jihadis-worshipped.html

The Charity Commission launched the probe into the Al Manar Centre in the Welsh capital amid 'concerns' that have been raised over the mosque.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356361/Shame-Britains-Muslim-schools-Secret-filming-shows-pupils-beaten.html

Did you read anything I posted or were you busy searching for articles from 2011?

Regarding the the pizza thing, I always see you guys claim muslims don't adapt to the countries they live in. What's more American than a frivolous lawsuit?

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

Did you read anything I posted or were you busy searching for articles from 2011?

Regarding the the pizza thing, I always see you guys claim muslims don't adapt to the countries they live in. What's more American than a frivolous lawsuit?

We have are minds made up Bosigga,I could post hundred new articles and it wouldn't change your opinion,and vice versa.

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Yeah I saw that,I meant the Muslims that love England like I do,they don't want to go back to living in an Islamic shit hole. My old man has worked for an Iranian for decades,good man that wanted a safe life over here.

i understand all that, i wish it was that easy.. i wish they all didn't take that religion seriously and just get out of that and become who they really want to be in new lands, and be a blessing to people who are hosting them... it's just not the case packerd, these people visit their homelands, these people's allegiance lies elsewhere ... everything just isn't that simple as " looking for better life " .. there are the few that rebel against their parents, that religion, and actually do find God, a career, a wife.. have family and become productive citizens ... but i don't know the stats on that, seems like the exception to the rule

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

So that makes it ok? You've dehumanized these people so much you don't even bat an eye when 150 innocents die at the hands of the USA. You say we are at war with Islam. If you don't see how all of this is used to fuel terrorism and justify heinous acts like Manchester then i don't know what to tell you...

We are trying to kill the bad guys, sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire.. If we don't bomb and take the fight to them, ISIS will expand and trust me many more then 150 innocent people will die..

Yes it's sad a 150 civilians got killed in this bombing but it was an accident and it happens.. WE CANNOT STOP the bombings against ISIS strong holds though..

It's not that hard to understand..

How about all the innocent civilians ISIS has killed lately? Do you feel bad for them Bosigga? Thousands if not millions of innocent Christians and Muslims have been slaughtered in the last decade.. Women and children at the hands of ISIS..

YES CONTINUE THE BOMBINGS WHEN WE HAVE LEGIT TARGETS TO HIT!!!!

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

i understand all that, i wish it was that easy.. i wish they all didn't take that religion seriously and just get out of that and become who they really want to be in new lands, and be a blessing to people who are hosting them... it's just not the case packerd, these people visit their homelands, these people's allegiance lies elsewhere ... everything just isn't that simple as " looking for better life " .. there are the few that rebel against their parents, that religion, and actually do find God, a career, a wife.. have family and become productive citizens ... but i don't know the stats on that, seems like the exception to the rule

What you say is true,something needs to change though,because having candle light vigil,and saying peace and love keep the borders open,is making it worse.

Ive been saying get rid of the burka,it needs to go,if you come here you follow are countries rules not the other way around.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

its not meant to be funny bud, these are their protest, you want more of this in the streets?

Kinda funny how we always see Muslims in the streets protesting our laws and liberties but we NEVER see the Muslims marching for peace or justice and or stopping the violence in regards to these re-occurring terrorist attacks..

That's what I find the most disturbing Can anyone explain to me why this is?

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

We are trying to kill the bad guys, sometimes innocents get caught in the crossfire.. If we don't bomb and take the fight to them, ISIS will expand and trust me many more then 150 innocent people will die..

Yes it's sad a 150 civilians got killed in this bombing but it was an accident and it happens.. WE CANNOT STOP the bombings against ISIS strong holds though..

It's not that hard to understand.. How about all the innocent ISIS has killed lately? Do you feel bad for them Bosigga? Thousands of innocent Christians and Muslims slaughtered.. Women and children at the hands of ISIS..

YES CONTINUE THE BOMBINGS WHEN WE HAVE LEGIT TARGETS TO HIT!!!!

There is plenty of other arabic countries these people can be fleeing to... why would they be sleeping in the same building as isis to begin with? Unconsciencly bombing a target where you know isis is and innocent life loss in a war zone is completely different then a little bastard with a nail bomb popping off in a bopper concert in fun land europe...

theres BIG differences to these scenarios that have been manipulated and twisted into talking points of discussion topic when it shouldn't be a convo at all.. it's sad that innocent people have to die and pass especially the Christian ones, the life on earth that they miss, sad..but who knows what God has in store for them.. He is just.

But this isnt a conversation ..

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Kinda funny how we always see Muslims in the streets protesting our laws and liberties but we NEVER see the Muslims marching for peace or justice and or stopping the violence in regards to these re-occurring terrorist attacks..

That's what I find the most disturbing Can anyone explain to me why this is?

Excatly they are no where to be found,and they wonder why people get pissed off.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Excatly they are no where to be found,and they wonder why people get pissed off.

I know I would be more open to Muslims as a whole if they really cared and showed up in some peace marches, even one peace march.. You never see it!!!!...

It's really not that hard for the Muslim leaders in our communities to organize peace marches against radical Islam..

YOU NEVER SEE IT.. Discrimination will only increase against Muslims in the West because of this and they will have no one to blame but themselves IMO...

**bosigga** · 05-26-17, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I know I would be more open to Muslims as a whole if they really cared and showed up in some peace marches, even one peace march.. You never see it!!!!...

It's really not that hard for the Muslim leaders in our communities to organize peace marches against radical Islam..

YOU NEVER SEE IT.. Discrimination will only increase against Muslims in the West because of this and they will have no one to blame but themselves IMO...

Your guys' dedication to ignorance is astounding. There's many examples.

Hundreds Of Muslims Just Protested Against Terrorism In Central London

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/london-ashura-islam_uk_57fe7ccce4b0e982146bbae9

The march was to mark the festival of Ashura.

No one covered the Muslim anti-Isis march that took place in London last week

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslim-anti-isis-march-not-covered-by-mainstream-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Excatly they are no where to be found,and they wonder why people get pissed off.

it would obviously just be a display anyways if they started to now... we are 20 years in guys, come'on ... what if some of them gave you the march you are looking for passing a capital and one of them side lines out of the march carrying a big bag and a detonator .. i don't want a march, just control on immigration and serious vetting... that's what every country should want right now, germany might be for the history books, france, europe .. wild stuff

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

Your guys' dedication to ignorance is astounding. There's many examples.

Hundreds Of Muslims Just Protested Against Terrorism In Central London

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/london-ashura-islam_uk_57fe7ccce4b0e982146bbae9

The march was to mark the festival of Ashura.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6765976.html

Those marches weren't solely for the purpose of marching against the islamic state, it was part of some " holy month ".

sigh .. don't need a march, just need vetting from people in these war torn areas, long process and evaluations .. trump is what we they should want

**bosigga** · 05-26-17, 03:40 PM

You guys say they don't do enough to stop the violence...I posted a link showing that community leaders from the mosque, friends, and family members reported this guy. If the government with all its resources didn't stop this guy how is Tariq from down the road with a full time job and a family supposed to know what this guy was planning to do?

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

Your guys' dedication to ignorance is astounding. There's many examples.

Hundreds Of Muslims Just Protested Against Terrorism In Central London

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/london-ashura-islam_uk_57fe7ccce4b0e982146bbae9

The march was to mark the festival of Ashura.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6765976.html

That's nice I didn't know that happened.. The main stream media isn't covering it so I didn't know.. That's some what reassuring that Muslims do care

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More Muslims to need to stand up for peace, more do need to report the radicals when they see it in the mosques or communities... That would surely help matters..

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

it would obviously just be a display anyways if they started to now... we are 20 years in guys, come'on ... what if some of them gave you the march you are looking for passing a capital and one of them side lines out of the march carrying a big bag and a detonator .. i don't want a march, just control on immigration and serious vetting... that's what every country should want right now, germany might be for the history books, france, europe .. wild stuff

Controlled immigration goes without saying,thats a big reason why we voted Brexit,so we could control are own borders. If this shit continues,their will end up being a revolution in Britain,you watch.

**maggiethebestdog** · 05-26-17, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

You guys say they don't do enough to stop the violence...I posted a link showing that community leaders from the mosque, friends, and family members reported this guy. If the government with all its resources didn't stop this guy how is Tariq from down the road with a full time job and a family supposed to know what this guy was planning to do?

Typical retard. Instead of sympathy for young kids that got blown up for being at a concert, he says the real victims are the small % of Muslims that do protest. Yes, they are the true victims here.

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I know I would be more open to Muslims as a whole if they really cared and showed up in some peace marches, even one peace march.. You never see it!!!!...

It's really not that hard for the Muslim leaders in our communities to organize peace marches against radical Islam..

YOU NEVER SEE IT.. Discrimination will only increase against Muslims in the West because of this and they will have no one to blame but themselves IMO...

Were full Jib,I don't want to become another Germany.

**bosigga** · 05-26-17, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by maggiethebestdog

Typical retard. Instead of sympathy for young kids that got blown up for being at a concert, he says the real victims are the small % of Muslims that do protest. Yes, they are the true victims here.

Wtf are you taking about? The victim here is your reading comprehension.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Controlled immigration goes without saying,thats a big reason why we voted Brexit,so we could control are own borders. If this shit continues,their will end up being a revolution in Britain,you watch.

I think there will be a revolution at some point in England and there should be.. The leaders have no right letting in all these Muslim refugees..

Nobody wants or should have to walk around in public in constant fear, nobody should have to fear that their sons or daughters might get blown to bits at public events, etc.. Should never have to live like that in our own communities of freedom where there is law and order..

**maggiethebestdog** · 05-26-17, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

Wtf are you taking about? The victim here is your reading comprehension.

Please show your post saying the concert goers were the real victims.

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

You guys say they don't do enough to stop the violence...I posted a link showing that community leaders from the mosque, friends, and family members reported this guy. If the government with all its resources didn't stop this guy how is Tariq from down the road with a full time job and a family supposed to know what this guy was planning to do?

Then he should have been shipped out of the country, and serious pressure should've been applied to everything his life consisted of. i do agree, authorities just aren't doing enough.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Were full Jib,I don't want to become another Germany.

I wouldn't want that either. NO WAY!!!

The Merkel's and the Obama's of this world took it on their own to try and be helpful to the Muslim refugees by letting them into our Countries and all they did is endanger and cause civil unrest for most citizens in the end..

Both Obama and Merkel should be locked up if you ask me, other liberal leaders as well.. You could have helped all these refugees in other ways without bringing them into your own Countries.. It was politically driven and a HUGE mistake!!!.. I cringe when I hear Muslim immigrants are coming in by the thousands still.

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**maggiethebestdog** · 05-26-17, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by brainfreeze

Then he should have been shipped out of the country, and serious pressure should've been applied to everything his life consisted of. i do agree, authorities just aren't doing enough.

They can't do anything because liberals have made it unacceptable to protect your country and uphold the law.

**bosigga** · 05-26-17, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by maggiethebestdog

Please show your post saying the concert goers were the real victims.

You really have nothing better to bring to the table? What a ridiculous thing to say. No. I don't have to prove a thing to you and you're the one making claims. I haven't said anything suggesting they're not victims. Do you understand how discussions work?

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by maggiethebestdog

They can't do anything because liberals have made it unacceptable to protect your country and uphold the law.

Can't even build a wall to secure our borders, or implement flight bans to known terrorist Countries....

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**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I think there will be a revolution at some point in England and there should be.. The leaders have no right letting in all these Muslim refugees..

Nobody wants or should have to walk around in public in constant fear, nobody should have to fear that their sons or daughters might get blown to bits at public events, etc.. Should never have to live like that in our own communities of freedom where there is law and order..

Yep its not much to ask is it Jib.Sorry but mean words don't exactly matchup with kids loosing body parts.

**maggiethebestdog** · 05-26-17, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by bosigga

You really have nothing better to bring to the table? What a ridiculous thing to say. No. I don't have to prove a thing to you and you're the one making claims. I haven't said anything suggesting they're not victims. Do you understand how discussions work?

You are clueless. Is the discussion supposed to be about all the Muslims who condemn what happened??? I get it. There were a half dozen protests. Great point. You are creating some sort retarded argument that people should not be restricted to come into countries because some Muslims are FINALLY protesting, mainly for their own benefit. People's lives trump all of your baseless garbage. If you really valued all the innocent lives lost you wouldn't be posting this nonsense.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by maggiethebestdog

You are clueless. Is the discussion supposed to be about all the Muslims who condemn what happened??? I get it. There were a half dozen protests. Great point. You are creating some sort retarded argument that people should not be restricted to come into countries because some Muslims are FINALLY protesting, mainly for their own benefit. People's lives trump all of your baseless garbage. If you really valued all the innocent lives lost you wouldn't be posting this nonsense.

That's what it boils down to.. Good post!!

**brainfreeze** · 05-26-17, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

That's what it boils down to.. Good post!!

was a good one lol

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 06:19 PM

Bosigga left out that a number of the guys family members have been arrested,including his old man.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Yep its not much to ask is it Jib.Sorry but mean words don't exactly matchup with kids loosing body parts.

If you took a vote I'd venture to guess most people in England and America don't want anymore Muslim refugees pouring in now.. That is why Brexit passed and Trump got voted in.. Big part of it for sure.

Americans and Brits have had enough!!!! We see how things have changed for the worse and how our own safety and ways of life are now being compromised!!!

Revolution coming if this continues!! We don't want our kids living in constant danger!!!

**packerd_00** · 05-26-17, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

If you took a vote I'd venture to guess most people in England and America don't want anymore Muslim refugees pouring in now.. That is why Brexit passed and Trump got voted in.. Big part of it for sure.

Americans and Brits have had enough!!!! We see how things have changed for the worse and how our own safety and ways of life our now being compromised!!! Revolution coming if this continues!! We don't want our kids living in constant danger!!!

Yeah my granddad would be ashamed if he saw what his country has turned into,this isn't what they fought the Nazis for,to have it be overrun without even a fight.

Most people keep their true feelings to themselves,but if your sitting their having a beer with them,you normally see they think the same,they don't want this.

**JIBBBY** · 05-26-17, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by packerd_00

Yeah my granddad would be ashamed if he saw what his country has turned into,this isn't what they fought the Nazis for,to have it be overrun without even a fight.

Most people keep their true feelings to themselves,but if your sitting their having a beer with them,you normally see they think the same,they don't want this.

I read ya, I'm sure our American world war one and two soldiers that died fighting along with my grand father who served in world war 2 are all rolling over in their graves right now seeing what has happened to America.

America doesn't have it as bad with the Muslim refugees as Europe does but we have our pockets of Somalian and Syrian refugees that are starting to cause us problems now.. We are not immune to it either..

That last recent San Bernardino terrorist attack is literally a 2 hour drive away from where I live now.. That's hitting home for me, I've been there several times... I don't like it at all!!!

All these innocent people killed by the hands of Islamic terrorists..

Who needs this shiit in their lives? I don't!!! Flight ban would have stopped these 2 as well probably..