Video shows man forcibly removed from United flight - this is insane people!

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  • brooks85
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    • 01-05-09
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    #246
    and remember, this was NOT an overbooked flight. That is not what happened here, that is what United sure as shit wanted it to fall under but even IF it did they still broke THEIR own contract with the passenger on top of breaking government regulations. So they are screwed either way but it was not an overbooked flight.


    What is amazing is all you sheep defending this, truly sad. Browbeaten bitches, no other way to put it.
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    • El Nino
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      • 05-03-12
      • 18426

      #247
      Originally posted by brooks85
      lol Former lawyers



      you need a better source buddy


      fact is this guy is getting paid and it is very obvious he is in the right while United was in the wrong.


      Also, doesn't even touch on the fact police had NO LEGAL RIGHT to use force on him so Chicago is paying up.
      They absolutely had the right to use force on him. When you refuse to leave after 45 min and then are told that you need to leave or be forcibly removed (a lawful order by a law enforcement officer)...force is going to be used. The only way he is getting money from Chicago is if he can prove that according to a reasonable officer, those officers used excessive force.

      As far as from United, he'll get the standard breach of contract cash. United isn't liable for any of his injuries. He'll ask for a stupid amount of money suing for IIED, United may settle, but they shouldn't. They already took a bath financially and in the media. Don't set the precedent that you can be a dumb fukk, disobey air crew members and the police, get hurt, cry like a bitch and get paid.
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      • brooks85
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-05-09
        • 44709

        #248
        Originally posted by El Nino
        They absolutely had the right to use force on him. When you refuse to leave after 45 min and then are told that you need to leave or be forcibly removed (a lawful order by a law enforcement officer)...force is going to be used. The only way he is getting money from Chicago is if he can prove that according to a reasonable officer, those officers used excessive force.

        As far as from United, he'll get the standard breach of contract cash. United isn't liable for any of his injuries. He'll ask for a stupid amount of money suing for IIED, United may settle, but they shouldn't. They already took a bath financially and in the media. Don't set the precedent that you can be a dumb fukk, disobey air crew members and the police, get hurt, cry like a bitch and get paid.
        no they don't actually lol

        there is no "time limit" on when you're allowed to use force. WTF are smoking? I want some.

        crazy you're an American and don't know your rights but that is common these days which is why the police state can advance so easily.


        That is why you have an idiot on that plane cheering the police assaulting an old man for absolutely no legal reason or fault of his own.
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        • MiDNiTe
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-11-13
          • 7684

          #249
          they're losing alot of money if they dont do a settlement it will be on news in china and the weibo or whatever the chinese use will blow up again
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          • MiDNiTe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-11-13
            • 7684

            #250
            already united have lost a billion bucks if went to court and found out why they chose the chinese guy and it wasnt random united are ******
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            • El Nino
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-03-12
              • 18426

              #251
              Originally posted by brooks85
              no they don't actually lol

              there is no "time limit" on when you're allowed to use force. WTF are smoking? I want some.

              crazy you're an American and don't know your rights but that is common these days which is why the police state can advance so easily.
              Yeah, they should have just sat there for 2 or 3 more hours, fukked up 2 planes worth of people for a guy who no longer had the legal license to fly. I'm sure the guy who was charged for trading pills for gay sex would have made a solid decision after some more time.

              What's crazier is that you think you know your rights, but you don't know your asshole from your elbow. It's cool if you want to be a SJW cuck for this sick fukk "doctor" though.
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              • brooks85
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-05-09
                • 44709

                #252
                Originally posted by El Nino
                Yeah, they should have just sat there for 2 or 3 more hours, fukked up 2 planes worth of people for a guy who no longer had the legal license to fly. I'm sure the guy who was charged for trading pills for gay sex would have made a solid decision after some more time.

                What's crazier is that you think you know your rights, but you don't know your asshole from your elbow. It's cool if you want to be a SJW cuck for this sick fukk "doctor" though.

                bingo. Now you're making sense. United ****** this up, not the doctor.


                and wtf are you talking about? He wasn't a pilot lol If you mean he didn't have a ticket well then you're just dead wrong. That obviously isn't true or he wouldn't have been on the plane.
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                • brooks85
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                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #253
                  Originally posted by brooks85
                  and remember, this was NOT an overbooked flight. That is not what happened here, that is what United sure as shit wanted it to fall under but even IF it did they still broke THEIR own contract with the passenger on top of breaking government regulations. So they are screwed either way but it was not an overbooked flight.


                  What is amazing is all you sheep defending this, truly sad. Browbeaten bitches, no other way to put it.
                  stick to facts, not your sheepish emotions El Nino.

                  You're browbeaten and it's hilarious the coward who is afraid of the police is calling someone else an SJW

                  maybe take a second to think how stupid that sounds lol...




                  sheep are easy to find


                  voted trump and support police? right wing sheep



                  that's why I love when I get "SJW" or "you voted Obama/ support BLM." My post history laughs heartily.


                  lol you sheep all think within the same constructs and regurgitate the same shit
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                  • El Nino
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-03-12
                    • 18426

                    #254
                    Originally posted by brooks85

                    bingo. Now you're making sense. United ****** this up, not the doctor.


                    and wtf are you talking about? He wasn't a pilot lol If you mean he didn't have a ticket well then you're just dead wrong. That obviously isn't true or he wouldn't have been on the plane.
                    Your ticket is a LICENSE TO FLY. You fly at the behest of the airline. They can not allow you to fly for any number of reasons. In this case, the airline made a business decision to kick 4 people off the plane so that their crew could get to another plane, so they didn't have to cancel that flight. They ask for volunteers...no takers, ok, we select 4 people to deboard. Shitty customer service by United but nothing illegal. When the man refuses to leave, he no longer has a LICENSE to his seat. He is now trespassing. You remove a person who refuses to move using force. All legally. You have no PROPERTY RIGHT to your seat. The airline and it's crew can kick you off of their plane for any number of reasons. There's no, well...he boarded, that seat belongs to him. He doesn't own anything. It's a contract dispute, not property.
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                    • brooks85
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                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #255
                      Originally posted by El Nino
                      Your ticket is a LICENSE TO FLY. You fly at the behest of the airline. They can not allow you to fly for any number of reasons. In this case, the airline made a business decision to kick 4 people off the plane so that their crew could get to another plane, so they didn't have to cancel that flight. They ask for volunteers...no takers, ok, we select 4 people to deboard. Shitty customer service by United but nothing illegal. When the man refuses to leave, he no longer has a LICENSE to his seat. He is now trespassing. You remove a person who refuses to move using force. All legally. You have no PROPERTY RIGHT to your seat. The airline and it's crew can kick you off of their plane for any number of reasons. There's no, well...he boarded, that seat belongs to him. He doesn't own anything. It's a contract dispute, not property.
                      lol so therefore YOU ARE WRONG as I clearly said. Again, you don't know the process of being a boarded passenger. Again, you don't know you're rights. Again, you're a sheep who is afraid of the police.
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                      • brooks85
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                        • 01-05-09
                        • 44709

                        #256
                        Originally posted by brooks85
                        and remember, this was NOT an overbooked flight. That is not what happened here, that is what United sure as shit wanted it to fall under but even IF it did they still broke THEIR own contract with the passenger on top of breaking government regulations. So they are screwed either way but it was not an overbooked flight.


                        What is amazing is all you sheep defending this, truly sad. Browbeaten bitches, no other way to put it.
                        FACTS and ignoring it won't change anything El Nino


                        United broke THEIR OWN contract with the passenger on top of breaking government regulations. It's very, very simple.


                        And that doesn't even touch on Chicago police having NO LEGAL right to put their hands on this man. It's sad and pathetic you think they do. You're a sheep man, a scared little sheep. Only thing makes me more sick than liberals are sheep who support the largest gang in this country; law enforcement. You're a sucker.
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                        • TheMoneyShot
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-14-07
                          • 28672

                          #257
                          Originally posted by El Nino
                          They absolutely had the right to use force on him. When you refuse to leave after 45 min and then are told that you need to leave or be forcibly removed (a lawful order by a law enforcement officer)...force is going to be used. The only way he is getting money from Chicago is if he can prove that according to a reasonable officer, those officers used excessive force.

                          As far as from United, he'll get the standard breach of contract cash. United isn't liable for any of his injuries. He'll ask for a stupid amount of money suing for IIED, United may settle, but they shouldn't. They already took a bath financially and in the media. Don't set the precedent that you can be a dumb fukk, disobey air crew members and the police, get hurt, cry like a bitch and get paid.
                          EL.... let's go in order...

                          1. Why was he asked to leave and not the other passengers? What did he do wrong? Why is this his fault?

                          2. Force him off? Why? What gives you the right to put your hands on someone else? The man had a boarding ticket. Took his seat like every passenger is told to do. That's what the man did. Then, he's randomly picked to leave? Why? They did a game of eeny mini miny moe? Then, decided to select him?

                          Like I said in prior comments in this thread... there better be more to this story... otherwise United Airlines is in trouble. Looks like an easy 20 million minimum case awarded.

                          You can call the dude a whiny little bitch... whatever you want. From what I've seen on video... the passenger didn't use his hands to fight back... by way of punching etc. Sure, he was grabbing things to use leverage because he didn't want to get off the plane... that's typical. He's a customer that already paid... he has a right to be on that plane just like anyone else.

                          All airlines better review all of their policies in regards to situations like this. Compensating with free airline vouchers is the dumbest... cheapest... thoughtless excuse for their own mistake.
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                          • brooks85
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                            • 01-05-09
                            • 44709

                            #258
                            I remember taking ethics classes and philosophy classes and thinking to myself "who in the penetrate actually needs to learn this stuff and doesn't already know it?"


                            Then you meet police officers and come across people on forums and it becomes quite clear not only do people need those classes, they clearly never took them. Plus, bad or no parenting without a doubt.

                            Some people are just evil, and as a society we have decided to give them badges that hilariously say "protect and serve." It's not a joke or an exaggeration when people say we have the dumbest of our society policing us. It is a quantified fact, one many departments try to hide but if you're "too" smart you will not be allowed to become a cop.
                            Last edited by brooks85; 04-14-17, 08:55 AM.
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                            • El Nino
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                              • 05-03-12
                              • 18426

                              #259
                              Originally posted by brooks85
                              FACTS and ignoring it won't change anything El Nino


                              United broke THEIR OWN contract with the passenger on top of breaking government regulations. It's very, very simple.


                              And that doesn't even touch on Chicago police having NO LEGAL right to put their hands on this man. It's sad and pathetic you think they do. You're a sheep man, a scared little sheep. Only thing makes me more sick than liberals are sheep who support the largest gang in this country; law enforcement. You're a sucker.
                              Explain it then. I agree that he has a contract claim. Refrain from all the sheep bullshit that you constantly spew on this forum when you have no other comeback. How does Chicago PD have no legal right to put their hands on him when they are acting in good faith?
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48369

                                #260
                                Originally posted by El Nino
                                They absolutely had the right to use force on him. When you refuse to leave after 45 min and then are told that you need to leave or be forcibly removed (a lawful order by a law enforcement officer)...force is going to be used. The only way he is getting money from Chicago is if he can prove that according to a reasonable officer, those officers used excessive force.
                                Let me ask you a question. You pay a rental car company to rent a car. Let's say you paid them $1,000 cash for a weekly rental. They give you the keys to the car. You put your bags in the trunk, adjust the seats, your wife is drinking her latte while you go to the exit. At the exit, the attendant tells you that you have to get out of the car because it's the last car on the lot and Bubba needs to use it to load signs off a pallet truck. They don't have any more cars but they can get you another one tomorrow night. They've already taken your money. You have reservations at a poker room. Your wife has a spa appointment in the morning. Are you really going to get your wife out of the car, all your shit and give them the car back? You are a bigger pussy then I thought.

                                Here's another example. You buy a bike on Craigslist. You pay the guy the money and put the bike in your car. As you are about to drive off he tells you, I'm sorry but my cousin just called and he wants me to give the bike to him. Are you really going to let him take the bike out of your car after he already sold it to you? Do you really get bent over so easily??? Brooks is spot on. You've been fukked so many times you're use to having a sore asshole. And then you'll end up blaming yourself and saying you were wrong for getting fukked in the ass with no vaseline. Fukkin pathetic man.
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                                • Roadtrip635
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                                  • 12-07-10
                                  • 6129

                                  #261
                                  United Airlines was in the wrong plain and simple, they didn't follow their own policies and procedures covering bumping passengers. It is plainly evident by the statements made by the CEO. At first, he backed the employees and United policies, but then eventually came back and tried to make a "true" apology, where he stated that the customer was NOT at fault. He didn't make this about face because he truly felt bad about the situation or the momentary financial hit, but after urging from their legal counsel.

                                  United's legal counsel knows that they can't win this case and need to get out in front by formal apology and settle as quick as possible. CEO Munoz can also kiss his $500k bonus goodbye, which is tied to satisfied customer surveys.
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                                  • brooks85
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                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 44709

                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by El Nino
                                    Explain it then. I agree that he has a contract claim. Refrain from all the sheep bullshit that you constantly spew on this forum when you have no other comeback. How does Chicago PD have no legal right to put their hands on him when they are acting in good faith?
                                    Personally I find it disgusting you can even say they are acting in good faith with presumably a straight face when you know what happened to that man was not right. Imagine if that was your dad, your story would be change quickly.

                                    If they had legal right to use force why did they wait 45mins?

                                    Again, there is no time limit on when you're allowed to use force. Security simply lost patience at that moment. This guy was not a threat, was not disruptive and every right to be on this plane.

                                    If chicago police get off on the acting on good faith bs like police did with tamir rice then that is just more proof to our police state and terrible choice for police officers.


                                    In a rational society the officer would have boarded this plane, heard the situation and told united to never call them for this kind of thing again because it is not their problem. Of course, even officers don't know the law; again, we have the dumbest servicing us.



                                    only officers are allowed to fall back on ignorance, insane. They wear it with pride too.
                                    Last edited by brooks85; 04-14-17, 09:25 AM.
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 48369

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by El Nino
                                      Your ticket is a LICENSE TO FLY. You fly at the behest of the airline. They can not allow you to fly for any number of reasons. In this case, the airline made a business decision to kick 4 people off the plane so that their crew could get to another plane, so they didn't have to cancel that flight. They ask for volunteers...no takers, ok, we select 4 people to deboard. Shitty customer service by United but nothing illegal. When the man refuses to leave, he no longer has a LICENSE to his seat. He is now trespassing. You remove a person who refuses to move using force. All legally. You have no PROPERTY RIGHT to your seat. The airline and it's crew can kick you off of their plane for any number of reasons. There's no, well...he boarded, that seat belongs to him. He doesn't own anything. It's a contract dispute, not property.
                                      Dude - do you even keep up with current events? Who should we listen to? You, who obviously don't have a TV or the CEO who finally had to admit that the MAN DID NOTHING WRONG. Let me repeat... The CEO said that the MAN DID NOTHING WRONG, not one thing. Here are some more comments from the CEO.

                                      “truly horrific event
                                      my deepest apologies
                                      I continue to be disturbed by what happened on this flight
                                      I deeply apologize to the customer forcibly removed and to all the customers aboard
                                      No one should ever be mistreated in this way
                                      we take full responsibility

                                      Realize that this dumb fukk CEO didn't originally think the man was totally innocent. He was as ill informed as you are. Not until he met with his legal team and found out that they fukked up did he have to back track. You just like him don't know your facts nor the law once a passenger has boarded the plane. You cannot randomly select passengers to get off once boarded, you have to give them written notice of the reason why they are being asked off AND you damn sure can't send in the gestapo to enforce your illegal commands.
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                                      • El Nino
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                                        • 05-03-12
                                        • 18426

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                        Personally I find it disgusting you can even say they are acting in good faith with presumably a straight face when you know what happened to that man was not right. Imagine if that was your dad, your story would be change quickly.

                                        If they had legal right to use force why did they wait 45mins?

                                        Again, there is no time limit on when you're allowed to use force. Security simply lost patience at that moment. This guy was not a threat, was not disruptive and every right to be on this plane.

                                        If chicago police get off on the acting on good faith bs like police did with tamir rice then that is just more proof to our police state and terrible choice for police officers.


                                        In a rational society the officer would have boarded this plane, heard the situation and told united to never call them for this kind of thing again because it is not their problem. Of course, even officers don't know the law; again, we have the dumbest servicing us.



                                        only officers are allowed to fall back on ignorance, insane. They wear it with pride too.
                                        So, I assume you are making an argument that United refused transport and not boarding. United calls the airport police, says we refused this guy boarding. He's on the plane, he is refusing to leave, he is being "disruptive and belligerent" (what United claimed). You expect an airport cop to know the difference between United's refusal to transport and refusal to board when United didn't even know the difference? As far as the time situation. If the airport police are trying to get a man who is refusing to leave off a plane. You believe there is no urgency? Do they put oven mitts on there hands and gently coax him off the plane?
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                          • 01-04-09
                                          • 48369

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by brooks85
                                          Again, there is no time limit on when you're allowed to use force. Security simply lost patience at that moment. This guy was not a threat, was not disruptive and every right to be on this plane.
                                          If chicago police get off on the acting on good faith bs like police did with tamir rice then that is just more proof to our police state and terrible choice for police officers.
                                          In a rational society the officer would have boarded this plane, heard the situation and told united to never call them for this kind of thing again because it is not their problem. Of course, even officers don't know the law; again, we have the dumbest servicing us.
                                          Brooks - you are fukking killing it. I can't say it any better. Dumb fukk police officers didn't even think for a moment that United employees were in the wrong. They just heard that they need to remove a passenger so other employees can get on the plane and they just comply with orders without giving forethought. Not one of them thought... "What legal right do you have for asking this man off the plane?"

                                          Dumb ass police officers usually don't even know the law. Now they're suspended while the United employees are still working.
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                                          • Roadtrip635
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                                            • 12-07-10
                                            • 6129

                                            #266
                                            United is gonna be kissing that guy's ass. Thomas Demetrio is a big time lawyer and may be looking at truly big money, just ask the NFL about that billion dollar settlement. While it is a longshot, it may be possible that they may be considering a class action lawsuit against the airlines and their business practices. I guarantee his staff is researching the possibility and I guarantee the legal counsel of United Airlines is concerned of this possibility as well.

                                            There are no shortages of airline horror stories and questionable business practices.
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                              • 01-04-09
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                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by El Nino
                                              So, I assume you are making an argument that United refused transport and not boarding. United calls the airport police, says we refused this guy boarding. He's on the plane, he is refusing to leave, he is being "disruptive and belligerent" (what United claimed). You expect an airport cop to know the difference between United's refusal to transport and refusal to board when United didn't even know the difference? As far as the time situation. If the airport police are trying to get a man who is refusing to leave off a plane. You believe there is no urgency? Do they put oven mitts on there hands and gently coax him off the plane?
                                              So you think it's okay for the police officers AND United employees to NOT KNOW THE FUKKING LAW? If I'm a police officer working in an airport, I damn sure will make sure I know the law around using force to physically remove people, especially passengers. A smart officer would immediately ask the question..."why are you asking me to remove a guy that has boarding pass and who has ALREADY boarded the plane?"
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                                              • brooks85
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                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by El Nino
                                                So, I assume you are making an argument that United refused transport and not boarding. United calls the airport police, says we refused this guy boarding. He's on the plane, he is refusing to leave, he is being "disruptive and belligerent" (what United claimed). You expect an airport cop to know the difference between United's refusal to transport and refusal to board when United didn't even know the difference? As far as the time situation. If the airport police are trying to get a man who is refusing to leave off a plane. You believe there is no urgency? Do they put oven mitts on there hands and gently coax him off the plane?
                                                but he wasn't and when the officers got there they clearly saw that. Again, he had every right to be on this plane and to stay on the plane. If you believe you have to obey officer orders simply because they said them, you are severely mistaken. You should know your rights. I can defend my life by disobeying an officer giving me an illegal order and I would. That is why;


                                                The CDA, meanwhile, explained the reasoning behind the original officer’s being put on leave in a statement released Tuesday evening.
                                                “Aviation Security Officers (ASOs) are part of the public safety teams at both O’Hare and Midway, and complement and assist the Chicago Police Department (CPD), Chicago Fire Department (CFD) and federal law enforcement. While they do have limited authority to make an arrest, Sunday’s incident was not within standard operating procedures nor will we tolerate that kind of action. That is why we quickly placed the aviation security officer on leave pending a thorough review of the situation.”

                                                Videos of Dr. David Dao being dragged down the aisle of the plane and then returning to the cabin with blood on his face went viral.


                                                even their own department knows they ****** up
                                                Last edited by brooks85; 04-14-17, 09:47 AM.
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                                                • El Nino
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                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                  So you think it's okay for the police officers AND United employees to NOT KNOW THE FUKKING LAW? If I'm a police officer working in an airport, I damn sure will make sure I know the law around using force to physically remove people, especially passengers. A smart officer would immediately ask the question..."why are you asking me to remove a guy that has boarding pass and who has ALREADY boarded the plane?"
                                                  Obviously not. That's why it's important to know what was relayed to the airport police. I mean, if the CEO is claiming the wrong United procedure...I would assume that's what they told the airport police. I agree with your second part. Sounds like a huge cluster fukk and nobody took the reigns. That is why I believe United claimed he was "disruptive and belligerent" to cover themselves for refusal to transport (which is probably BS since everything the CEO has first said has been back tracked). The more I dig into it, the more you guys are right. I kept seeing the refusal to board in every article.
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                    • 36915

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                                    Personally I find it disgusting you can even say they are acting in good faith with presumably a straight face when you know what happened to that man was not right. Imagine if that was your dad, your story would be change quickly.

                                                    If they had legal right to use force why did they wait 45mins?

                                                    Again, there is no time limit on when you're allowed to use force. Security simply lost patience at that moment. This guy was not a threat, was not disruptive and every right to be on this plane.

                                                    If chicago police get off on the acting on good faith bs like police did with tamir rice then that is just more proof to our police state and terrible choice for police officers.


                                                    In a rational society the officer would have boarded this plane, heard the situation and told united to never call them for this kind of thing again because it is not their problem. Of course, even officers don't know the law; again, we have the dumbest servicing us.



                                                    only officers are allowed to fall back on ignorance, insane. They wear it with pride too.
                                                    spot on
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                      • 01-04-09
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                                                      #271
                                                      Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                      There are no shortages of airline horror stories and questionable business practices.
                                                      Exactly - airlines and their employees for years have operated on the premise that it's their way or the highway. I have personally been given stupid instructions that were not legal but you follow them else end up roughed up like this guy and put on a terrorist list to boot. I've seen them use their authority to basically bully many passengers. Airline employees are worst than the police.

                                                      I remember one time there was a flight that was delayed like 3 hours because of mechanical problems (which I have no issue for being delayed). Another passenger got very upset because he had to get to a convention. He was demanding they put him on another flight or with another airline. (I'm pretty sure the airlines have 4 hours to get you routed without compensation). Anyway, he kept complaining and I saw one of the employees buzzing the police secretly. A few minutes later, I see 4 police cars rushing on the tarmac underneath our terminal (all of which he didn't see) while he was still arguing. About 7 officers came rushing up to the gate and they immediately pushed him to the ground and handcuffed him. He started backtracking, "what did I do", Why am I being arrested". They never even gave him a reason for his arrest. His buddy said to one of the officers, "why is he being arrested". The officer turned to him and said, "Do you want to spend the night in jail like your buddy"? The friend looks at him and says, "I'll see you later John".

                                                      The guy was loud and belligerent but he was not a physical threat. I felt real bad for him but I sure as hell wasn't about to speak up. I hope there's a class action suit.
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                                                      • El Nino
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                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        Exactly - airlines and their employees for years have operated on the premise that it's their way or the highway. I have personally been given stupid instructions that were not legal but you follow them else end up roughed up like this guy and put on a terrorist list to boot. I've seen them use their authority to basically bully many passengers. Airline employees are worst than the police.

                                                        I remember one time there was a flight that was delayed like 3 hours because of mechanical problems (which I have no issue for being delayed). Another passenger got very upset because he had to get to a convention. He was demanding they put him on another flight or with another airline. (I'm pretty sure the airlines have 4 hours to get you routed without compensation). Anyway, he kept complaining and I saw one of the employees buzzing the police secretly. A few minutes later, I see 4 police cars rushing on the tarmac underneath our terminal (all of which he didn't see) while he was still arguing. About 7 officers came rushing up to the gate and they immediately pushed him to the ground and handcuffed him. He started backtracking, "what did I do", Why am I being arrested". They never even gave him a reason for his arrest. His buddy said to one of the officers, "why is he being arrested". The officer turned to him and said, "Do you want to spend the night in jail like your buddy"? The friend looks at him and says, "I'll see you later John".

                                                        The guy was loud and belligerent but he was not a physical threat. I felt real bad for him but I sure as hell wasn't about to speak up. I hope there's a class action suit.
                                                        Post 9/11 they have so much power. I know a guy that was arguing with an airline employee about his baggage and basically did the, it's not like there's a bomb in there thing from Meet the Parents. He didn't make that flight, got arrested. Sucks, but in this case, I would have bounced off that flight when the airport cops showed up. Fight it later with the airlines and in court if need be. I wish they'd repeal those post 9/11 travel laws and the Patriot Act. TSA is worthless anyway.
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                                                        • El Nino
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                                                          • 05-03-12
                                                          • 18426

                                                          #273
                                                          Thanks for the info, mac and brooks. I was dealing with out of date information. Turned off social media and the news... was immersed in the playoffs. My bad.
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-04-09
                                                            • 48369

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            “Aviation Security Officers (ASOs) are part of the public safety teams at both O’Hare and Midway, and complement and assist the Chicago Police Department (CPD), Chicago Fire Department (CFD) and federal law enforcement. While they do have limited authority to make an arrest, Sunday’s incident was not within standard operating procedures nor will we tolerate that kind of action. That is why we quickly placed the aviation security officer on leave pending a thorough review of the situation.”
                                                            Videos of Dr. David Dao being dragged down the aisle of the plane and then returning to the cabin with blood on his face went viral.

                                                            even their own department knows they ****** up


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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48369

                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by El Nino
                                                              Post 9/11 they have so much power. I know a guy that was arguing with an airline employee about his baggage and basically did the, it's not like there's a bomb in there thing from Meet the Parents. He didn't make that flight, got arrested. Sucks, but in this case, I would have bounced off that flight when the airport cops showed up. Fight it later with the airlines and in court if need be. I wish they'd repeal those post 9/11 travel laws and the Patriot Act. TSA is worthless anyway.
                                                              I would have probably gotten up too once the police showed up BUT in hindsight this incident may shed light on their bullshit and hopefully change their practices moving forward. Going through the airport is like being in Communist China.

                                                              I have a friend that works for the TSA and he tells me that if you ever want to spend a day with free comedy, hang out at Spirit airlines. Every day people get arrested on that airlines over stupid shit. Passengers get pissed at excessive fees and people get unruly all the time. LOL
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                                                              • Roadtrip635
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                                                                • 12-07-10
                                                                • 6129

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by El Nino
                                                                Post 9/11 they have so much power. I know a guy that was arguing with an airline employee about his baggage and basically did the, it's not like there's a bomb in there thing from Meet the Parents. He didn't make that flight, got arrested. Sucks, but in this case, I would have bounced off that flight when the airport cops showed up. Fight it later with the airlines and in court if need be. I wish they'd repeal those post 9/11 travel laws and the Patriot Act. TSA is worthless anyway.
                                                                Several years ago, this guy I knew was having a problem going through the scanners, kept setting them off. Out of frustration he said, Do you all think I'm carrying a machine gun or something. Next thing he knows, he's getting swarmed and tackled. They didn't arrest him, but did keep him for questioning for a couple hours and wouldn't let him fly out of that airport. He tried buying a ticket on a different airline, but no luck. He eventually had to rent a car and drive, luckily it was just Dallas to San Antonio and not cross country.

                                                                Airports have no sense of humor when it comes to machine gun or bomb jokes.
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                                                                • El Nino
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-03-12
                                                                  • 18426

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by Roadtrip635
                                                                  Several years ago, this guy I knew was having a problem going through the scanners, kept setting them off. Out of frustration he said, Do you all think I'm carrying a machine gun or something. Next thing he knows, he's getting swarmed and tackled. They didn't arrest him, but did keep him for questioning for a couple hours and wouldn't let him fly out of that airport. He tried buying a ticket on a different airline, but no luck. He eventually had to rent a car and drive, luckily it was just Dallas to San Antonio and not cross country.

                                                                  Airports have no sense of humor when it comes to machine gun or bomb jokes.
                                                                  Probably a lot of meat in that TSA dog pile.

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                                                                  • Roadtrip635
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-07-10
                                                                    • 6129

                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by El Nino
                                                                    Probably a lot of meat in that TSA dog pile.

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                                                                    • dlowilly
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 11-09-16
                                                                      • 13862

                                                                      #279
                                                                      The important question is:

                                                                      Would you?

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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83686

                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                        you sound like a sheep jibby, can you not see that?

                                                                        just a heads up, you're thinking like a liberal on this one. I'm trying to get you out of the pen so don't take it personal. Also, if you need a reminder of what it is to be an American today is a good day! Americans never listen to authority especially when we are in the right. It is in our blood and a requirement to be an American.

                                                                        Those who stand for nothing fall for anything jibby.
                                                                        You go ahead and resist authority Brooks. Not a sheep just know better to handle things after the fact legally and get it on film...

                                                                        Should have beaten that shady doctor with a stick for being stubborn in the face of 3 airport law officials..

                                                                        Now everyone is gonna bitch and whine when confronted by authorities on flights in hopes of being man handled so they can sue for millions... Sets a bad example..
                                                                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 04-14-17, 11:33 AM.
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