It's funny when we run good…

[jjgold]

We think we have something and it's figured out

Six weeks later we're waiting in the bank for a loan

[pilebuck13]

get very cocky then one weekend crushes us

[Sam Odom]

no legit gambler can win long-term

may be time to hang it up

[BetterBizness]

I remember having a 5 digit run a couple years back and got buried by Baskets Bundasliga - I mean - There was NO WAY Hamberger and Bamberger was going over 200 when the game started at 160... I mean -- IMposibbleee ...

[pilebuck13]

no legit gambler can win long-term

may be time to hang it up

Sam what do u make of the statements from players on here claiming to be plus money lifetime

[funnyb25]

Sam what do u make of the statements from players on here claiming to be plus money lifetime

Some are

[Sam Odom]

Sam what do u make of the statements from players on here claiming to be plus money lifetime

if all they do is scalp and/or take an early position then buy back when needed... it is possible. add in Bonuses too

hey , money is money so Sammy respects those ^ who only do that

[jjgold]

Back in the day I had a fur coat
I was a sugar daddy
Big time


Now bald , crooked teeth and broke

[pilebuck13]

Some are

Maybe 5%

[Sam Odom]

Maybe 5%

over the yrs... have met some of those who claim to be up lifetime

90% of the 5% were wearing outdated clothes , driving 10yo auto , living in a mid-income apartment , eating on coupons/comps and drink too much

[shadymcgrady]

More like 2% and ive never met one, only those who lose less than me

[pilebuck13]

over the yrs... have met some of those who claim to be up lifetime

90% of the 5% were wearing outdated clothes , driving 10yo auto , living in a mid-income apartment , eating on coupons/comps and drink too much

It's ok Sammy it keeps the dream alive. Just because I know I'm down lifetime doesn't mean everyone else is....but honesty in gamblers is hard to come by, to much ego when secretly most are getting there ass kicked

[shadymcgrady]

I dunno buck I get my a$$ handed to me all the time. U could give me a winner and I'd still find a way to lose. If someone is constantly winning they wouldn't be on this forum at all

[pilebuck13]

Being responsible but aware is the key....gold is sharked up he once had to go rogue and escape Vegas in the middle of the night over a verbal bet on a hockey match with a local but your probably to new to remember that

[Sam Odom]

It's ok Sammy it keeps the dream alive.

Absolutely

OTOH... good to live in reality tho -- many craps players 'believe' betting a second even worse vig wager than their passline bet helps them overall. Same can apply to sports

as long we are betting with 8-10c vig (or worse) on each wager we cannot win , be up , long-term

[pilebuck13]

Absolutely

OTOH... good to live in reality tho -- many craps players 'believe' betting a second even worse vig wager than their passline bet helps them overall. Same can apply to sports

as long we are betting with 8-10c vig (or worse) on each wager we cannot win , be up , long-term

Ever get that feeling Sammy it happens maybe once a month we're you absolutely lock in on a bet and it absolutely wins now with that said is the problem bankroll management or the urge to resist betting all the time?

[BetweenHerCheeks]

I'd say about 1 in every 2000 players that actually try to make it as a pro or high level amateur succeed long term. My definition of success would be lifetime net winnngs of at least $1 MILLION and not less than $100K annual net profit in at least 8 of the last 10 years.

[BetweenHerCheeks]

I'm defintely down long term ... not getting crushed...but down enough where it might take me two really good years to be lifetime even...but I really enjoy it

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I'm up life time approximately $4

[Sam Odom]

Sammy was up for one week in November 1986

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Sammy was up for one week in November 1986

How'd you blow it, Sammy?

[shadymcgrady]

I'd say it's the urge to resist betting all the time. I find that everytime I take a break I hit a ton as soon as I start again and then I slowly start to become consumed by the action until I'm taking a break again

[Sam Odom]

How'd you blow it, Sammy?

pussy & drugs

[lakerboy]

It's all good. Enjoy the good runs. It's the high that counts. Money comes and goes.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

pussy & drugs

"For he who builds his castle with the spoils of his labor is a still a winner, even if that castle is constructed of pussy and drugs."

-Mo

[jjgold]

So many times after a few big weeks I thought I figured it all out and was gonna live the lifestyle of a professional gambler with all the good things that come with it

I would have that smirk on my face that I'm smarter than the box but we all know what happens

[No coincidences]

Two incontrovertible truths:

1) it takes much longer to build a bankroll than to lose it;
2) cold streaks are usually fueled by bad beats that just keep getting more impossible as you continue to chase.

[Underdog5229]

Back in the day I had a fur coat
I was a sugar daddy
Big time


Now bald , crooked teeth and broke

tough to keep them teeth straight when working the glory

[jjgold]

sports has so much parity now it basically is a guess every game and every sport

Talent is too dispersed