Just curious, have been doing well for a quite a while now (especially MMA) and just wondered if anybody that does this for a living or even as a side job would answer some questions for me. None are handicapping related, just curious about the do's and don'ts go as far as being a pro (taxes, advertising yourself?, etc)
Anybody here a true pro or even a serious semi-pro?
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TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#1Anybody here a true pro or even a serious semi-pro?Tags: None -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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#2I am an SBR PROComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#3Just curious, have been doing well for a quite a while now (especially MMA) and just wondered if anybody that does this for a living or even as a side job would answer some questions for me. None are handicapping related, just curious about the do's and don'ts go as far as being a pro (taxes, advertising yourself?, etc)
Advertising legitimacy in a sea of shit is expensive and may not be worth it.
Don't try to go tout because you have been successful in sports betting, you could have gone tout when you weren't successful...lol.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
- 02-21-08
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#4Are you looking for pro bettors or touts? They are only very, very rarely the same.
Advertising legitimacy in a sea of shit is expensive and may not be worth it.
Don't try to go tout because you have been successful in sports betting, you could have gone tout when you weren't successful...lol.
Very true, I meant more like running your own site with tips and hints about games/situations/ than actually selling picks. That is an idea I've had. If it got big enough, it could be a decent revenue source to compliment things. I guess my main thing is hearing experiences from those that decided I'm going to do nothing but this for a living and what they went through (good and bad)Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#5I don't wanna tout my own horn, but I might go toot.Comment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#6I've been Pro since March. Up 37k so far with my 1st year.Comment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#7I'm nothing close to anything a tout. Not my style, it's my picks & my money get your own is my motto.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#8Do you do anything else on the side or?Comment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#9Not in the last 6 plus months.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#10A tout is not a pro But a failed gambler or a scammer salesman
Touts don't even know anything about sports or most of them do not there salesman that try to scam peopleComment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#12The tax thing is very interesting for me, not something I can help you with right now. Basically whatever tax forms I may receive through Circle or Coinbase & or Bitpay if at all I will file that sum on a 1090 form under "hobby gambling". I read that Bitpay doesn't report unless you have 200 transaction or 20k received. The other two companies I'll have to wait & see. I will always try & conceal some income too via check or money transfers.Comment -
xKMACKxSBR MVP
- 11-16-08
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#13I do work for a free picks/tips website which is pretty big now. Guy that owns it makes a fortune now, but you're going to have to spend a lot for efficient SEO, digital marketing, a website to get started (if you don't know to do any of that). Slapping a Wix website together isn't going to work, unless maybe you already had a huge following. Then you'll need to establish a email subscription list to really gain a following and make money off affiliate marketing (if you're not charging for your picks service). It's possible, but not as easy as spending 10 minutes putting your picks on a page, you need to treat it like a business. There are a lot of facets involved in the process. It's a competitive niche, so it'd take quite a bit of work to start ranking highly in search engines.Last edited by xKMACKx; 09-19-16, 08:21 PM.Comment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#14Basically I'm gonna do this until I run out of money. Then I go back to my day job as a electrician living just above pay check to paycheck. I'll do what I have to do in order to make some kind of living.Comment -
sweethookSBR Posting Legend
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#15I sell shrimp ...nothing more nothing less .Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#16I do work for a free picks/tips website which is pretty big now. Guy that owns it makes a fortune now, but you're going to have to spend a lot for efficient SEO, digital marketing, a website to get started (if you don't know to do any of that). Slapping a Wix website together isn't going to work, unless maybe you already had a huge following. Then you'll need to establish a email subscription list to really gain a following and make money off affiliate marketing (if you're not charging for your picks service). It's possible, but not as easy as spending 10 minutes putting your picks on a page, you need to treat it like a business. There are a lot of facets involved in the process.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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#17mods close this thread
we do not need people helping other people go tout
Dead serious, fukk off powellComment -
BeatTheJerkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#18Manage my hours ? I do wtf I want when I want. I probably invest 15-20 hours a week in handicapping & research advice/opinions from others. 3 things I can really focus on while being Pro is the gym, chasing puss, & quality time with my son.Comment -
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#19Very true, I meant more like running your own site with tips and hints about games/situations/ than actually selling picks. That is an idea I've had. If it got big enough, it could be a decent revenue source to compliment things. I guess my main thing is hearing experiences from those that decided I'm going to do nothing but this for a living and what they went through (good and bad)Comment -
xKMACKxSBR MVP
- 11-16-08
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#20The plan is to def put up a wordpress type site and build up hype with social media and online forums eventually to drive people there and hopefully get a subscription list or forums. Is SEO REALLY that important? I mean I know its important but I feel like I can grab enough people from social media with the tools I have in place to get started well enough
You could just do it as a side project and see what comes of it. Never know if you don't try.Comment -
xKMACKxSBR MVP
- 11-16-08
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#21The ultimate goal is to get people to sign-up for your affiliate links, if you're not running a tout service. So, ideally you will have to attract people that are new to betting on sports online.
The advertising companies (Google AdSense, Bing Media Net) won't run ads on gambling related websites, typically, so affiliate marketing would be the only vehicle to make money.Last edited by xKMACKx; 09-19-16, 08:53 PM.Comment -
Hu$tleSBR MVP
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#22im so sharp im squareComment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#23The ultimate goal is to get people to sign-up for your affiliate links, if you're not running a tout service. So, ideally you will have to attract people that are new to betting on sports online.
The advertising companies (Google AdSense, Bing Media Net) won't run ads on gambling related websites, typically, so affiliate marketing would be the only vehicle to make money.Comment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#24As you can see, Rudy is a conniving POS that twists things that make no senseComment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#25
This guy Powell is clearly up to no good, and I'm not sure if you know this or not, but he is a proven stiffer of children's charities. Sickening.Comment -
KickShootThrowSBR MVP
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#26Powell, still waiting on your promised donation to charity fund.Comment -
daneblazerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-14-08
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#27Charging people for picks is a little hairy
I've seen "handicapper coaches" who will give their picks & teach what they look for, how to make models, how to use them to help make your picks, etc.
Those guys work hard and I don't see anything wrong with trying to make some $ off their workComment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
- 02-21-08
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#28Charging people for picks is a little hairy
I've seen "handicapper coaches" who will give their picks & teach what they look for, how to make models, how to use them to help make your picks, etc.
Those guys work hard and I don't see anything wrong with trying to make some $ off their work
I'm honestly thinking of putting a class on Udemy for free to be honest. Nothing crazy in depth but the basic idea of power ratings and suchComment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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#29powell you fukkin use yards per game as your only key stat.
fukk off with your model acting BS
ive seen paper airplanes look more realComment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#30
Put up or shut up you scrub. 250 plays from now until the end of the year. Dogs risking 1 unit and favorites to win 1 unit. You name the stakesComment -
The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#32lol thats what I thought, back away. Proven to be a stiff. You should be ashamed of yourself covering for that tout in the other threadComment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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#34powell has stiffed the kids, now want to enter an ebattle with me as if he will pay this time though
powell you are too fukkin funny man
powell try online jokes, i just gave you a free one earlierComment -
TPowellSBR Posting Legend
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#35
Tuck your tail and run Rudy. I'll make a donation just to get your in a 1 vs 1 capping contestComment
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