Adam Silver on super-teams: ‘Don't think it's good for the league'

**Manny0825** · 07-13-16, 03:17 PM

Agreed. The NBA is so top heavy now. Only 3 teams have legit chances of winning now. I prefer a league with the stars spread out.

**jjgold** · 07-13-16, 03:31 PM

Terrible for league

His fault too

**sk0002** · 07-13-16, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Manny0825

Agreed. The NBA is so top heavy now. Only 3 teams have legit chances of winning now. I prefer a league with the stars spread out.

What about MJ Bulls Era, did any team even post any threat to the bulls? lol they could have won 8 in a row if MJ didnt retire. Also, what about the celtics taht won 8 in a row, and the KOBE SHAQ lakers and they could have won more than 3 if not for chemistry problem.. Get over it, this is not the first time league been TOP HEAVY, fool.

**jjgold** · 07-13-16, 04:39 PM

Has not been parity in years like other sports

**Manny0825** · 07-13-16, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by sk0002

What about MJ Bulls Era, did any team even post any threat to the bulls? lol they could have won 8 in a row if MJ didnt retire. Also, what about the celtics taht won 8 in a row, and the KOBE SHAQ lakers and they could have won more than 3 if not for chemistry problem.. Get over it, this is not the first time league been TOP HEAVY, fool.

When mj was there, there was still way more contenders than what there is now. Same thing with the lakers. Its not the first time the league has been top heavy, but it has NEVER been this top heavy. The ONLY contenders in the leagues are the cavs and golden state. NOBODY else. Not the spurs, not okc, the the bulls, not anybody.

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 07-13-16, 05:02 PM

From '80 to '88, the Lakers or Celtics won eight of the nine titles; this is nothing new.

**TheMoneyShot** · 07-13-16, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

From '80 to '88, the Lakers or Celtics won eight of the nine titles; this is nothing new.

I agree with this. I think Silver just wants the rapid growth of the NBA to continue. Even though there's only like 3 dominating teams in the NBA.... it still continues to expand and generate more revenue. It's actually mind boggling.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 07-13-16, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Manny0825

When mj was there, there was still way more contenders than what there is now. Same thing with the lakers. Its not the first time the league has been top heavy, but it has NEVER been this top heavy. The ONLY contenders in the leagues are the cavs and golden state. NOBODY else. Not the spurs, not okc, the the bulls, not anybody.

**Manny0825** · 07-13-16, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

From '80 to '88, the Lakers or Celtics won eight of the nine titles; this is nothing new.

You are not getting the point. During those years, players were spread out throughout the league still. They didnt have just 2 teams that could potentially win. While those teams did win, they still have more of an even playing field than they do now.

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 07-13-16, 05:13 PM

I remember the era well and, except for the early 80's when the Sixers were in the mix, those two were the only ones that had a prayer of winning the title.

**IBetYou** · 07-13-16, 05:39 PM

No shit it's bad for the league. There's a subplot to this though; the removal of max contracts. If that happens it will weaken the players union.

**JayDr3am** · 07-13-16, 05:59 PM

its all about the ring baby

**seaborneq** · 07-13-16, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

From '80 to '88, the Lakers or Celtics won eight of the nine titles; this is nothing new.

I remember that era well. Lakers had zero competition to get to the finals, would sweep the WCF or have homecourt advantage nearly every year. Doc and Bird battled it out for a while, but it was the Celtics until the Pistons then bulls came into the mix. I did not know it was 8 or 9 with Moses winning the other against.............................the Lakers.

**Mr KLC** · 07-13-16, 06:15 PM

It's more likely to see these scenarios play out nowadays because of the relationships the players have off the court. The days of the Celtics hating the Lakers, or the Bulls detesting the Pistons are over. You're more likely to see these guys talk, and play together now like little boys that used to make their clubs, and get together in a tree house. The only difference is that little boys never got paid like these guys do.

**Mr KLC** · 07-13-16, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

I remember that era well. Lakers had zero competition to get to the finals, would sweep the WCF or have homecourt advantage nearly every year. Doc and Bird battled it out for a while, but it was the Celtics until the Pistons then bulls came into the mix. I did not know it was 8 or 9 with Moses winning the other against.............................the Lakers.

My Rockets did knock them out a couple of times. I'm sure the Celtics were happy to see that those couple of seasons.

**jtoler** · 07-13-16, 06:22 PM

Not good for the league, but I think we are kidding ourselves if we dont acknowledge that the NBA was always top heavy. Going into the seasons there was usually always no more than 3 or 4 teams that was going to win it anyway. Hopefully coaches will just hit the clipboard and find a way to beat State, maybe teams will play basketball the right way more, pass more. Baseball's different, but the Yanks didnt always win with their superteams dont think State will either.

**smitch124** · 07-13-16, 08:01 PM

This doesn't guarantee anything, I think the Warriors are worse now. Will be fun for Warrior haters to watch them fall.

**sk0002** · 07-13-16, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Manny0825

When mj was there, there was still way more contenders than what there is now. Same thing with the lakers. Its not the first time the league has been top heavy, but it has NEVER been this top heavy. The ONLY contenders in the leagues are the cavs and golden state. NOBODY else. Not the spurs, not okc, the the bulls, not anybody.

You are kidding if you think any teams other than the mj bulls had a shot during their dynasty run against them. I would say teams now have a better chance beating warriors than mj losing to any other teams back in the day. nobody were even able to force a game 7 against them, let alone beating them. If it wasn't an issue back then, why now. Get over it.

As for other super teams in other era, I'm sure there's a big reason why Celtics won 8 in a row to suggest that nobody could challenge them...there's a reason why they won 8 in a row.

Point is, league has been top heavy before, and if it wasn't an issue back then, why now, get over it. If you think it was competitive before then you are kidding yourself. Maybe you think competing for 2nd place in the league, then sure.

**smitch124** · 07-13-16, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by sk0002

You are kidding if you think any teams other than the mj bulls had a shot during their dynasty run against them. I would say teams now have a better chance beating warriors than mj losing to any other teams back in the day. nobody were even able to force a game 7 against them, let alone beating them. If it wasn't an issue back then, why now. Get over it.

As for other super teams in other era, I'm sure there's a big reason why Celtics won 8 in a row to suggest that nobody could challenge them...there's a reason why they won 8 in a row.

Point is, league has been top heavy before, and if it wasn't an issue back then, why now, get over it. If you think it was competitive before then you are kidding yourself. Maybe you think competing for 2nd place in the league, then sure.

I think it was proven beyond a doubt that the MJ Bulls were miles ahead of the Warriors.

**Manny0825** · 07-13-16, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by sk0002

You are kidding if you think any teams other than the mj bulls had a shot during their dynasty run against them. I would say teams now have a better chance beating warriors than mj losing to any other teams back in the day. nobody were even able to force a game 7 against them, let alone beating them. If it wasn't an issue back then, why now. Get over it.

As for other super teams in other era, I'm sure there's a big reason why Celtics won 8 in a row to suggest that nobody could challenge them...there's a reason why they won 8 in a row.

Point is, league has been top heavy before, and if it wasn't an issue back then, why now, get over it. If you think it was competitive before then you are kidding yourself. Maybe you think competing for 2nd place in the league, then sure.

We must have watched different games. Remember the pistons? The ones that were kicking MJs ass. Remember the knicks. Remeber the 76ers. Remember the rockets? Get out of here with that. Mj dominated. No arguement there. But the overall league was much more spread out. You didnt have a team that had steph, kd, green, thompson, iggy, etc. no team in the nba ever had that much talent on one team. Mj was a god. He balled out. But his roster did not accumulate to the talent that the warriors have now. And the celtics either. It wasnt a problem back then because it was actual competition tetion every game. Not these lopsided 2 team contenders only. Your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Lets agree to disagree here pal and move on.

**Otters27** · 07-13-16, 09:03 PM

Super teams are common in european soccer leagues. They seem to be pretty popular

**daneblazer** · 07-13-16, 09:11 PM

Well what can you jew

**lakerboy** · 07-13-16, 09:33 PM

League will opt out in 2017. Work stoppage coming.

**BigDofBA** · 07-13-16, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

League will opt out in 2017. Work stoppage coming.

Bingo!

I thought it was summer of 2017 that this would happen...right?

It's going to be Warriors/Cavs next year unless there are significant injuries.

The Spurs are the only team that could possibly challenge them.

There really is no drama in the regular season.....maybe Memphis or the Clippers could keep it close but let's be real.

**sk0002** · 07-14-16, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Manny0825

We must have watched different games. Remember the pistons? The ones that were kicking MJs ass. Remember the knicks. Remeber the 76ers. Remember the rockets? Get out of here with that. Mj dominated. No arguement there. But the overall league was much more spread out. You didnt have a team that had steph, kd, green, thompson, iggy, etc. no team in the nba ever had that much talent on one team. Mj was a god. He balled out. But his roster did not accumulate to the talent that the warriors have now. And the celtics either. It wasnt a problem back then because it was actual competition tetion every game. Not these lopsided 2 team contenders only. Your kidding yourself if you think otherwise. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Lets agree to disagree here pal and move on.

You mentioned Pistons, Bulls weren't ready until Pistons gotten old and Bulls were completely different with New system and new coach. Just like the Warriors weren't ready a few years ago and different under a different coach in Mark Jackson. Warriors gotten matured and better as they get into their prime and with a great coach and new system, the same case apply to the BULLS. Bulls were poised to dethrone the Pistons under the new coach Phil jackson and they were matured to overtake the pistons after they gotten older, and the rest was History. After Bulls emergence, nobody came close to their level since then, the gap was Immense, thus TOP HEAVY.....and they even added HOF Dennis Rodman along the way. I would say the level of BULLS from all other teams in the league back in the day was just as big of a gap of level between Warriors from all other teams now. And you mentioned rockets, like really?? They wouldn't have beaten the Bulls if MJ was still playing, case close. Bottom line, TOP HEAVY happened before and it will happen again, get over it.

**jtoler** · 07-14-16, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Otters27

Super teams are common in european soccer leagues. They seem to be pretty popular

How do the fans respond to them, do they love it or wish the best were spread out more?

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 07-14-16, 02:24 AM

LeBron's team has made the finals six straight years so the East is already way top heavy; the league has done pretty well.

**JayDr3am** · 07-14-16, 03:04 AM

yall realize the only reason its top heavy is cause of lebron single handed...

**sk0002** · 07-14-16, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by JayDr3am

yall realize the only reason its top heavy is cause of lebron single handed...

Kyrie + klove + Tristan Thompson + record breaking payroll....???? Try again. LeBron wasn't an auto finalist until he formed super team with the heat and now cavaliers.

**Manny0825** · 07-14-16, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by sk0002

Kyrie + klove + Tristan Thompson + record breaking payroll....???? Try again. LeBron wasn't an auto finalist until he formed super team with the heat and now cavaliers.

You think the cavs are a super team? Lol. Shump, delly, frye, and jefferson were their bench. Kevin love got benched. Lebron depended on jr, kyrie, and thompson to win the finals. That complete roster without lebron is 3-12. What a super team

try again

**Snowball** · 07-14-16, 09:17 AM

The problems of the NBA today go far beyond super-teams.

We need a widening and lengthening of the court, and less games.

1)Go back to the best of 5 in all rounds except Conference and League Finals.
Cut the regular season by 5-10 games.

2) Widen the court by 4 ft, lengthen by 8 ft. More room on the sides
for 3-point area.

3) Push back the FT line 6 inches.

**Mr KLC** · 10-15-16, 03:57 PM

Chicago Bulls star Dwyane Wade spoke at length on the sometimes-touchy subject of superteams on Thursday. As well as confirming that he and LeBron James considered joining the Bulls in the summer of 2010 before the Miami Heat reached an agreement with Chris Bosh, Wade said that, when stars team up, it is not just good but "great" for the NBA.
From ESPN's Nick Friedell:
"I think certain moments -- it's great," Wade said. "At the end of the day, whether you dislike the Heat or you loved the Heat, you was tuning in to watch the Heat, right? Same thing with Golden State. Whether you dislike what happened with Kevin Durant or whatever the case may be, you're going to tune in to watch, whether you want him to succeed or fail.
"Our game is growing. Eyes are on our game. And at the end of the day, me as a player, I just love the fact that players have the ability to control their own destiny.
"That's what we fight for when it comes to lockouts and all these things. We want to be able to do the things we want to be able to do because they can trade us at any moment, they can get rid of us at any moment. So to have the power to be able to do what we did in 2010 -- that felt great. That was a great moment for us. Three young African-American kids got an opportunity to control their own destiny and call their own shots. That's what we wanted. So our game is not taking a hit; our game has only grown."

Bulls' Dwyane Wade says superteams are 'great' for the NBA

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/bulls-dwyane-wade-says-superteams-are-great-for-the-nba/

Well, of course he would say that

**krk1030** · 10-15-16, 04:05 PM

hard to say much of anything has been bad for the game. revenue is absolutely exploding.

**texhooper** · 10-15-16, 04:06 PM

silver is covering his ass. super teams are great for the league. if the warriors and cavs are in the finals again this year, the ratings will be out of this world.