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  • Ratpack
    SBR MVP
    • 02-15-12
    • 4133

    #1
    luol deng 4 years 72 mil with the lakers
    so i guess deng will play the 4 while ingram plays the 3 with clarkson russel and mozgov and randle, nantz williams and young coming off the bench could be a 25-30 win team a lot of unders though because i dont see how this team will break 95 points a game
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    good player but wrong team

    Lakers improved slightly
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    • jtoler
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      • 12-17-13
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      #3
      Best days long gone and injury prone.
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      • jizay
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        • 08-07-09
        • 975

        #4
        Seems like every day I'm seeing an inexplicably bad signing by the Lakers. They're gonna suck for a long time.
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        • IBetYou
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          • 07-03-15
          • 8158

          #5
          No, Randle will start, Ingram will take a sub role. Not a bad move; Ingram will learn a lot from Deng.
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          • IBetYou
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            • 07-03-15
            • 8158

            #6
            ---Ingram is still only 18yo. You don't want him defending the elite wings of the nba with his skinny frame.
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            • Ratpack
              SBR MVP
              • 02-15-12
              • 4133

              #7
              so the 2nd pick in the draft is going to come off the bench?
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              • Smoke
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                • 10-09-09
                • 48111

                #8
                good signing
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                • IBetYou
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                  • 07-03-15
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                  #9
                  They're not starting him over Randle! Randle is an accomplished NBA player now. He rebounds, scores, makes plays.
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                  • Sledge187
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                    • 04-25-08
                    • 3722

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jizay
                    Seems like every day I'm seeing an inexplicably bad signing by the Lakers. They're gonna suck for a long time.
                    This!
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                    • new era
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-28-13
                      • 1470

                      #11
                      There was a decent chance Westbrook would want to play for the Lakers next season, which would make Durant at least listen to their pitch next summer. Now they are wasting all their money on these average players.
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                      • gauchojake
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                        • 09-17-10
                        • 34114

                        #12
                        The rebuilding process is going to take a lot longer than we thought. At least Deng fits the bill as far as players that Walton can use in an up tempo offense. Like another poster mentioned, who is going to shoot the ball though? Unfortunately the Lakers have to sign players and no one thought it would be this hard to give away money.
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                        • klemopixx
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                          • 10-02-14
                          • 3807

                          #13
                          As long as they're not in the top 3 of the draft next year that's fine with me. Go Sixers!!!
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                          • IBetYou
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                            • 07-03-15
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                            #14
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                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-02-12
                              • 19734

                              #15
                              lakers paying all this money for non impact players. why?
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                              • thetrinity
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-25-11
                                • 22430

                                #16
                                another bad signing by the lakers.

                                in other news the sun rose in the east this morning
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                                • Plaza23
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-29-13
                                  • 7392

                                  #17
                                  The Lakers are trying their best to win 27 games. And that is the worst thing they can do. If they finish top 3 in the lottery next year, they get to keep their 2017 1st round pick (top 3) and get to keep their 2019 1st round pick. If they do not finish top 3 in the lottery next year, they lose their 2017 first round pick AND lose their 2019 first round pick.

                                  If there was any year for the Lakers to tank, it's next season. They got 2 lottery picks to protect. But it looks like they will finish 5th or 6th worst, which is the absolute worst cast scenario for them.

                                  I think Mozgov can help them tank because he's trash. But Deng is a little "too good" for their tank efforts.
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                                  • kidcudi92
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                                    • 12-14-11
                                    • 15434

                                    #18
                                    76ers of the west
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                                    • thetrinity
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                                      • 01-25-11
                                      • 22430

                                      #19
                                      deng is good enough to be a starter on a good team, so him babysitting here doesnt really make much sense, unless this was his best offer by far. also, state income tax in california is high as hell.

                                      like plaza said, this could actually hurt the lakers more than anything, probably going to cost them 2 first round picks. the team looks like it will win around 25 this season, with a better coach, young guys who grew a year and now deng. also, no distracting farewell tour.
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                                      • Menses
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                                        • 03-15-13
                                        • 2755

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                        lakers paying all this money for non impact players. why?
                                        They do NOT have a choice...The BIG MARKET CITIES no longer dictate where BIG name players GO..The Players do...the new CBA leveled the playing field...Durant can earn just as much in Oklahoma as he would have earned in LA 15 years ago...and now triple that with advent of the New TV contracts...Jerry Buss under the old rules would just dip into the luxary tax and outspend everyone else...

                                        Lakers are also Terrible, so RING Chasing quality players want nothing to do with them...Lakers have too much baggage...their fan base is obsessed with KOBE...so quality Shooting Guards want nothing to do with them (Derozan)

                                        The Deng and Mozgov signings are quality veteran signings in the short term, that the Lakers are now forced to overpay for because beggars cannot be choosers. Under the old CBA, Deng would have been Chandler Parsons...and Mozgov would have been Bizmack Biyombo...Jerry Buss would have just paid them what ever they wanted like he did with Shaq....but new rules apply...

                                        Lakers now have to play by the rules all small market teams play by...Why would Chandler and Bizmack play for a shitbox team like LA when they can play for contenders and make the same amount of money ? Minus the added headache of the Mamba Mafia and LA media scrutiny..

                                        They needed a veteran forward and Center to help smooth the way for the young fellas and because Deng and Mozgov could easily net similar deals elsewhere they are now forced to overpay for 30 plus year old players past their primes...
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                                        • gauchojake
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                                          • 09-17-10
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                                          #21
                                          LA does have hotter bitches though so there's that
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                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 19734

                                            #22
                                            they do not have a choice? ummm... no.

                                            they just over paid for two players that will not make them into a playoff team.
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                                            • thetrinity
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                                              • 01-25-11
                                              • 22430

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Menses
                                              They do NOT have a choice...The BIG MARKET CITIES no longer dictate where BIG name players GO..The Players do...the new CBA leveled the playing field...Durant can earn just as much in Oklahoma as he would have earned in LA 15 years ago...and now triple that with advent of the New TV contracts...Jerry Buss under the old rules would just dip into the luxary tax and outspend everyone else...

                                              Lakers are also Terrible, so RING Chasing quality players want nothing to do with them...Lakers have too much baggage...their fan base is obsessed with KOBE...so quality Shooting Guards want nothing to do with them (Derozan)

                                              The Deng and Mozgov signings are quality veteran signings in the short term, that the Lakers are now forced to overpay for because beggers cannot be choosers...Under the old CBA, Deng would have been Chandler Parsons...and Mozgov would have been Bizmack Biyombo...Jerry Buss would have just paid them what ever they wanted like he did with Shaq....but new rules apply...Lakers now have to play by the rules all small market teams play by...Why would Chandler and Bizmack play for a shitbox team like LA when they can play for contenders and make the same amount of money ? Minus the added headache of the Mamba Mafia and LA media scrutiny..
                                              I said this somewhere else, being in a big market doesn't mean shit anymore. The game has went global.

                                              The players care more about good management, winning, elongating their own career than a storied franchise.
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                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 19734

                                                #24
                                                lakers just need to tank and rebuild.
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                                                • thetrinity
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                                                  • 01-25-11
                                                  • 22430

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                  they do not have a choice? ummm... no.

                                                  they just over paid for two players that will not make them into a playoff team.
                                                  Under the CBA, the owners have to spend so much, I'm not sure what the exact amount is off the top of my head.

                                                  Lakers were well below that amount (kobe off books and new cap) so something had to be done.

                                                  I get your point though, why give mozgov 64 million the second free agency opens

                                                  there were a lot of centers out there
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                                                  • gauchojake
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                                                    • 09-17-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Remember when we almost traded Kobe to the Bulls for Deng and the rest of the Bulls? Good times
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                                                    • gauchojake
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                                                      • 09-17-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                      lakers just need to tank and rebuild.
                                                      Lol they've been trying but Jimmy Buss can't get out of his own way.
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                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 19734

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                        Under the CBA, the owners have to spend so much, I'm not sure what the exact amount is off the top of my head.

                                                        Lakers were well below that amount (kobe off books and new cap) so something had to be done.

                                                        I get your point though, why give mozgov 64 million the second free agency opens

                                                        there were a lot of centers out there
                                                        i realize that lakers do need some vets but over paying for them is not the answer. it's not like the fans are gonna be excited to see mozgov and deng.
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                                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                          • 01-02-12
                                                          • 19734

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                          Lol they've been trying but Jimmy Buss can't get out of his own way.
                                                          jim buss is a fukking idiot. jeanie probably could do a better job.
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                                                          • Menses
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                                                            • 03-15-13
                                                            • 2755

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                            lakers just need to tank and rebuild.
                                                            They have been tanking from the moment the Chris Paul Trade was blocked...They now have several 1 and done players on their roster which means they have to wait until those players are fully developed before they can contend...until which point...they are forced to overpay for veteran role players on the downside of their careers...Mind you...all of this could have been avoided if Kobe had restructured his deal..and forced Jim Buss to hire Phil Jackson....
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                                                            • Menses
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-15-13
                                                              • 2755

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                              Under the CBA, the owners have to spend so much, I'm not sure what the exact amount is off the top of my head.

                                                              Lakers were well below that amount (kobe off books and new cap) so something had to be done.

                                                              I get your point though, why give mozgov 64 million the second free agency opens

                                                              there were a lot of centers out there
                                                              64 million is nothing now....next year it will be a third the value that it is now...think of that number as the new Max for a player of his caliber...people have to get used to the new market values...Biyombo just got 70 million...and I am certain probably tried to squeeze 85 or so million out of LA...Mitch probably refused..and went with Mozgov...
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                                                              • jtoler
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                                                                • 12-17-13
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                                                                #32
                                                                Kobe at home saying why couldnt I been born 5 years later.
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                                                                • gauchojake
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                                                                  • 09-17-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Deng's contract bought out, waived and stretched

                                                                  Lakers can sign a max 38 mil/ yr player



                                                                  The stench of Jimmy and Mitch are almost gone...
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                                                                  • gojetsgomoxies
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                                                                    • 09-04-12
                                                                    • 4222

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i agree with the one poster...... lakers are one of the teams that should never be making questionable signings and should maintain fiscal flexibility. questionable signings are sometimes ok for teams that can't get players excited about playing there.
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                                                                    • kingdom
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                                                                      • 07-25-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies
                                                                      i agree with the one poster...... lakers are one of the teams that should never be making questionable signings and should maintain fiscal flexibility. questionable signings are sometimes ok for teams that can't get players excited about playing there.
                                                                      those days are long gone. they have so much money next year its ridiculous. Pelinka and Magic have cleaned up every contract problem they had.
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