Colorado just finished playing in LA.

**19th Hole** · 06-09-16, 01:29 AM

Always Appreciate "Tips From The Master".

**pocketrockets42** · 06-09-16, 02:52 AM

Is Pitt taking a time machine to Colorado? Because they are also traveling.

**flyest** · 06-09-16, 02:58 AM

awesome. thanks for the post.

**mohye1980** · 06-09-16, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by Al Masters

They just won a nice game then catch a plane home makes it about 1am Colorado time
when they get on their flight....2 hour plane ride arrive at airport 3am co time,sure they will have a few
drinks on the flight.then they all get to their homes 3:30-4:00 am get to bed by 6am.

Then have to play a make up game at 3pm with Pitt, Chad Bettis on the mound era of 12.00 in last 3 outings 1-2 at
home with a era of close to 6.00 at home.

PLAY here is Pitt -107.

How many units? How much you like it?

**pocketrockets42** · 06-09-16, 03:32 AM

Are you guys retarded?

**mohye1980** · 06-09-16, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

Are you guys retarded?

Yes.

**manny24** · 06-09-16, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

Are you guys retarded?

welcome to thr board Pockets

**CappinTerp** · 06-09-16, 05:46 AM

On the other side of the coin.Pitt played 2 on Tues.,played last night and 1:30 am flight to Colo......then back to PITT for a series with ST. LOU.

**JIBBBY** · 06-09-16, 05:50 AM

Hitters ball park, can't tell you how many overs I've bet and won at Coors field over the years..

This game is a bit tricky though as I'm actually liking the under in this one.. 11.5 runs is alot.. Still not sure whether or not I want to make a play on it though..

<small>Pittsburgh Pirates at Colorado Rockies</small>
Thu 6/9	967 Pittsburgh Pirates J Locke - L	<input id="radiox" value="S1_7" name="radiox" type="radio"> -1½ +140	<input id="radiox" value="M1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">-111	<input id="radiox" value="L1_7" name="radiox" type="radio">o11½ -120
5:10PM	968 Colorado Rockies C Bettis - R	<input id="radiox" value="S2_7" name="radiox" type="radio"> +1½ -160	<input id="radiox" value="M2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">+101	<input id="radiox" value="L2_7" name="radiox" type="radio">u11½ +100

**thetrinity** · 06-09-16, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by CappinTerp

On the other side of the coin.Pitt played 2 on Tues.,played last night and 1:30 am flight to Colo......then back to PITT for a series with ST. LOU.

ya seriously, he just completely ignores what the pirates just did which should be way more taxing

**44 Mag** · 06-09-16, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by Al Masters

They just won a nice game then catch a plane home makes it about 1am Colorado time
when they get on their flight....2 hour plane ride arrive at airport 3am co time,sure they will have a few
drinks on the flight.then they all get to their homes 3:30-4:00 am get to bed by 6am.

Then have to play a make up game at 3pm with Pitt, Chad Bettis on the mound era of 12.00 in last 3 outings 1-2 at
home with a era of close to 6.00 at home.

PLAY here is Pitt -107.

But, Story & Reynolds had the day off for Colorado. Just to mention it. And nobody is tired from running the bases. LOL. BOL today.

**slayer14** · 06-09-16, 06:37 AM

You guys always looking for a edge

**jjgold** · 06-09-16, 07:50 AM

Al I am on Pitt also

Dodgers cannot score either but Pitt can

**brooks85** · 06-09-16, 07:51 AM

so if they get home at 4am why are they not going to bed until 6am?

**44 Mag** · 06-09-16, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

so if they get home at 4am why are they not going to bed until 6am?

When you get home from work at 5:00 PM, do you go to bed at 7:00 PM ??? LOL.

**pocketrockets42** · 06-09-16, 08:44 AM

So here's the logic apparently:

Pitt is the play because they are traveling from the East Coast to the West Coast (also he adds that they are likely to have some drinks on the flight back and the Pirates are not)

Meanwhile, Colorado is traveling the shorter distance to the next state over remaining in the West coast with no time difference.

**HeeluvaGuy** · 06-09-16, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Al Masters

They just won a nice game then catch a plane home makes it about 1am Colorado time
when they get on their flight....2 hour plane ride arrive at airport 3am co time,sure they will have a few
drinks on the flight.then they all get to their homes 3:30-4:00 am get to bed by 6am.

Then have to play a make up game at 3pm with Pitt, Chad Bettis on the mound era of 12.00 in last 3 outings 1-2 at
home with a era of close to 6.00 at home.

PLAY here is Pitt -107.

The game ended at about 11:15 p.m. Denver time, not 1:00 a.m.

**HeeluvaGuy** · 06-09-16, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

So here's the logic apparently:

Pitt is the play because they are traveling from the East Coast to the West Coast (also he adds that they are likely to have some drinks on the flight back and the Pirates are not)

Meanwhile, Colorado is traveling the shorter distance to the next state over remaining in the Weat coast with no time difference.

California is on Pacific Time. Colorado is on Mountain Time. There is a 1-hour difference. Also, Colorado is not adjacent to California.

**pocketrockets42** · 06-09-16, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy

California is on Pacific Time. Colorado is on Mountain Time. There is a 1-hour difference. Also, Colorado is not adjacent to California.

Dodger stadium to Colorado is a quick flight. Regardless of how many states over, the point was that the travel is more harsh for Pittsburgh so OP has no point at all.

**PrinceD** · 06-09-16, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

so if they get home at 4am why are they not going to bed until 6am?

Laundry/sex/catch up on The Bachelor

**stackz125** · 06-09-16, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Al I am on Pitt also

Dodgers cannot score either but Pitt can

Dodgers

Is this guy for real???

**HeeluvaGuy** · 06-09-16, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

Dodger stadium to Colorado is a quick flight. Regardless of how many states over, the point was that the travel is more harsh for Pittsburgh so OP has no point at all.

Sorry to sound like a dick. I agree that I don't think there's a huge advantage in this one for either team based solely on travel. My overarching point is that details matter. When I see folks who get the details wrong, I tend to overlook their opinions/picks. And I'm not picking you. Sorry if it comes across that way.

Here are the actual details for this particular scenario:

PIT - Played until 11:00 p.m. Eastern Time (9:00 Mountain). Approximately 3.5 hour flight to Denver, so they got into Denver sometime after 12:30 a.m. Mountain. (Travel time between airports should be relatively constant for all teams. I don't have those travel times and can't really estimate them. Regardless, both teams deal with pretty much the same ground travel, etc. so it's largely irrelevant here.)

COL - Played until 10:15 Pacific (11:15 Mointain). Approximately 2 hour flight to Denver, so they got in after 1:15 a.m.

So ultimately you have about a 45 minute difference in arrival time in Denver last night.

**pocketrockets42** · 06-09-16, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy

Sorry to sound like a dick. I agree that I don't think there's a huge advantage in this one for either team based solely on travel. My overarching point is that details matter. When I see folks who get the details wrong, I tend to overlook their opinions/picks. And I'm not picking you. Sorry if it comes across that way.

Here are the actual details for this particular scenario:

PIT - Played until 11:00 p.m. Eastern Time (9:00 Mountain). Approximately 3.5 hour flight to Denver, so they got into Denver sometime after 12:30 a.m. Mountain. (Travel time between airports should be relatively constant for all teams. I don't have those travel times and can't really estimate them. Regardless, both teams deal with pretty much the same ground travel, etc. so it's largely irrelevant here.)

COL - Played until 10:15 Pacific (11:15 Mointain). Approximately 2 hour flight to Denver, so they got in after 1:15 a.m.

So ultimately you have about a 45 minute difference in arrival time in Denver last night.

I'm not a time zone expert, nor did I pay much attention in History class. But I think anyone with enough common sense realizes Pittsburgh to Colorado is a longer travel than LA to Colorado. I disagree with it being irrelevant as I've noticed teams consistently come out extremely flat in situations like this. Typically low run ball games, the under first 5 may be a strong play.

**keel44** · 06-09-16, 11:07 AM

This is a make up game that nobody cares about.....the players that is. I think they come out totally flat. I say First Five UNDER the total 6.5 +105

No score 1st inning is +130

**HeeluvaGuy** · 06-09-16, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

I'm not a time zone expert, nor did I pay much attention in History class. But I think anyone with enough common sense realizes Pittsburgh to Colorado is a longer travel than LA to Colorado. I disagree with it being irrelevant as I've noticed teams consistently come out extremely flat in situations like this. Typically low run ball games, the under first 5 may be a strong play.

Never said it is irrelevant, just that the travel alone shouldn't give either team an advantage here. GL with your plays!

**Everest** · 06-09-16, 11:39 AM

BOL today bud!

**doubledime** · 06-09-16, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy

Sorry to sound like a dick. I agree that I don't think there's a huge advantage in this one for either team based solely on travel. My overarching point is that details matter. When I see folks who get the details wrong, I tend to overlook their opinions/picks. And I'm not picking you. Sorry if it comes across that way.

Here are the actual details for this particular scenario:

PIT - Played until 11:00 p.m. Eastern Time (9:00 Mountain). Approximately 3.5 hour flight to Denver, so they got into Denver sometime after 12:30 a.m. Mountain. (Travel time between airports should be relatively constant for all teams. I don't have those travel times and can't really estimate them. Regardless, both teams deal with pretty much the same ground travel, etc. so it's largely irrelevant here.)

COL - Played until 10:15 Pacific (11:15 Mointain). Approximately 2 hour flight to Denver, so they got in after 1:15 a.m.

So ultimately you have about a 45 minute difference in arrival time in Denver last night.

Well stated HG

**JIBBBY** · 06-09-16, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by keel44

This is a make up game that nobody cares about.....the players that is. I think they come out totally flat. I say First Five UNDER the total 6.5 +105

No score 1st inning is +130

We got a sharpie.. You and I are thinking the same with this game..

No telling who wins, probably Pitt but the unders seem more legit if both teams come out flat and weary... Pitchers Jeff Locke and Chad Bettis are decent as well and if both are on their game they should hold back the flood gates.

Locke has giving up 3 runs in his last 16 innings.. Pitching well lately..

Bettis gave up 4 runs last Saturday when he faced Pitt.. He pitched ok in that game but gave up 2 key dingers.. Bettis could be hit or miss in this game though.. U 12.5 -108... (heritage)

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 06-09-16, 03:48 PM

going with colorado. did you see pitt's bullpen? they're clowns. they had hard time with the mets lineup. c'mon now.

**InsideMan** · 06-09-16, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by pocketrockets42

Is Pitt taking a time machine to Colorado? Because they are also traveling.

**Otters27** · 06-09-16, 03:54 PM

On Colorado here. The under over is at about 13 right now

**Otters27** · 06-09-16, 04:12 PM

Chad Bettis was on flight to COLO last night. He has a full nights rest

**reed_barrington** · 06-09-16, 04:57 PM

yeah, colorado seems really hung over and tired.

**kidcudi92** · 06-09-16, 04:59 PM

locke so bad