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  • DwightShrute
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    • 01-17-09
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    #316
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    • 15805
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      • 06-10-12
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      #317
      Originally posted by ByeShea
      Expect 120% and greater in 2016.

      I love it when liberals deny the existence of vote fraud - most often they do so while accusing conservatives of voter suppression.
      Case in point East St. Louis, Illinois
      East St. Louis seems to have more voters registered in its district than it even has
      voting population
      .

      According to the 2010 Census, East St. Louis had a total population of 27,006. The
      population for those 18 and over, or those eligible to vote, was 19,098. With 22,000
      registered voters, it seems to be a numerical impossibility for East St. Louis' Board of
      Elections to have an accurate or legal list of register voters. East St. Louis is not alone
      with this problem. It is a problem all across the nation.
      _________________

      As of the census[20] of 2000, there were 31,542 people, 11,178 households, and 7,668 families residing in the city. The population density is 2,242.9 people per square mile (866.2/km²). There are 12,899 housing units at an average density of 917.2 per square mile (354.2/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 97.74% Black or African-American, 1.23% White, 0.19% Native American, 0.08% Asian-American, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 0.19% from other races, and 0.55% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.73% of the population.
      ________________

      East St. Louis is not only one of the most violent cities in the United States, but it continuously ranks among the world's most dangerous cities. According to FBI's data of 2007, the murder rate of East St. Louis hit 101.9 per population of 100,000, surpassing that of cities such as Gary, Indiana (48.3 per pop. 100,000); New Orleans, Louisiana (94.7); Baltimore, Maryland (43.3); and Detroit, Michigan (47.3)

      East St. Louis was higher than that of Honduras, the country with the highest murder rate in the world, at 90.4 per 100,000 people.[25] In 2016, NeighborhoodScout released rankings indicating that East St. Louis had the highest murder rate of any city in the United States. It's a very sad place, probably worse than Detroit and Gary in terms of the urban decay.

      Crime
      Murder 101.9 5.6
      Rape 251.3 32.2
      Robbery 1,347.0 195.4
      Assault 5,847.3 340.1
      Burglary 2,442.8 814.5
      Automobile theft 2,067.5 526.5
      A fertile area for Obama & now Clinton to fudge results.
      2008 Presidential Election

      Obama 13,846 votes (99.23%)
      McCain 83 votes (0.60%)
      Others 23 votes (0.17%)

      Those are some beautiful results.
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      • rkelly110
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 10-05-09
        • 39691

        #318
        Originally posted by 15805
        Case in point East St. Louis, Illinois
        East St. Louis seems to have more voters registered in its district than it even has
        voting population
        .

        According to the 2010 Census, East St. Louis had a total population of 27,006. The
        population for those 18 and over, or those eligible to vote, was 19,098. With 22,000
        registered voters, it seems to be a numerical impossibility for East St. Louis' Board of
        Elections to have an accurate or legal list of register voters. East St. Louis is not alone
        with this problem. It is a problem all across the nation.
        _________________

        As of the census[20] of 2000, there were 31,542 people, 11,178 households, and 7,668 families residing in the city. The population density is 2,242.9 people per square mile (866.2/km²). There are 12,899 housing units at an average density of 917.2 per square mile (354.2/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 97.74% Black or African-American, 1.23% White, 0.19% Native American, 0.08% Asian-American, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 0.19% from other races, and 0.55% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.73% of the population.
        ________________

        East St. Louis is not only one of the most violent cities in the United States, but it continuously ranks among the world's most dangerous cities. According to FBI's data of 2007, the murder rate of East St. Louis hit 101.9 per population of 100,000, surpassing that of cities such as Gary, Indiana (48.3 per pop. 100,000); New Orleans, Louisiana (94.7); Baltimore, Maryland (43.3); and Detroit, Michigan (47.3)

        East St. Louis was higher than that of Honduras, the country with the highest murder rate in the world, at 90.4 per 100,000 people.[25] In 2016, NeighborhoodScout released rankings indicating that East St. Louis had the highest murder rate of any city in the United States. It's a very sad place, probably worse than Detroit and Gary in terms of the urban decay.

        Crime
        Murder 101.9 5.6
        Rape 251.3 32.2
        Robbery 1,347.0 195.4
        Assault 5,847.3 340.1
        Burglary 2,442.8 814.5
        Automobile theft 2,067.5 526.5
        A fertile area for Obama & now Clinton to fudge results.
        2008 Presidential Election

        Obama 13,846 votes (99.23%)
        McCain 83 votes (0.60%)
        Others 23 votes (0.17%)

        Those are some beautiful results.
        Trump wants to build a wall, I'd say that would be the best place to do it.
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        • DwightShrute
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-17-09
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          #319
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          • Greget
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-01-10
            • 10516

            #320


            That's you dim
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            • Greget
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-01-10
              • 10516

              #321
              Team Trump

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              • DwightShrute
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-17-09
                • 103114

                #322
                Originally posted by Greget

                That's you dim
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                • Greget
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-01-10
                  • 10516

                  #323
                  Lighten up, dim. You and fuhrer Trump so sensitive.




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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103114

                    #324
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                    • rkelly110
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 10-05-09
                      • 39691

                      #325
                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                      Lara is saying to herself, oh, that's how you do that!
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                      • greenhippo
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-15-12
                        • 9091

                        #326
                        Originally posted by ByeShea
                        Expect 120% and greater in 2016.

                        I love it when liberals deny the existence of vote fraud - most often they do so while accusing conservatives of voter suppression.
                        Why would you or anyone expect a higher vote count than registered voters?
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                        • greenhippo
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-15-12
                          • 9091

                          #327
                          Originally posted by 15805
                          Case in point East St. Louis, Illinois
                          East St. Louis seems to have more voters registered in its district than it even has
                          voting population
                          .

                          According to the 2010 Census, East St. Louis had a total population of 27,006. The
                          population for those 18 and over, or those eligible to vote, was 19,098. With 22,000
                          registered voters, it seems to be a numerical impossibility for East St. Louis' Board of
                          Elections to have an accurate or legal list of register voters. East St. Louis is not alone
                          with this problem. It is a problem all across the nation.
                          _________________

                          As of the census[20] of 2000, there were 31,542 people, 11,178 households, and 7,668 families residing in the city. The population density is 2,242.9 people per square mile (866.2/km²). There are 12,899 housing units at an average density of 917.2 per square mile (354.2/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 97.74% Black or African-American, 1.23% White, 0.19% Native American, 0.08% Asian-American, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 0.19% from other races, and 0.55% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 0.73% of the population.
                          ________________

                          East St. Louis is not only one of the most violent cities in the United States, but it continuously ranks among the world's most dangerous cities. According to FBI's data of 2007, the murder rate of East St. Louis hit 101.9 per population of 100,000, surpassing that of cities such as Gary, Indiana (48.3 per pop. 100,000); New Orleans, Louisiana (94.7); Baltimore, Maryland (43.3); and Detroit, Michigan (47.3)

                          East St. Louis was higher than that of Honduras, the country with the highest murder rate in the world, at 90.4 per 100,000 people.[25] In 2016, NeighborhoodScout released rankings indicating that East St. Louis had the highest murder rate of any city in the United States. It's a very sad place, probably worse than Detroit and Gary in terms of the urban decay.

                          Crime
                          Murder 101.9 5.6
                          Rape 251.3 32.2
                          Robbery 1,347.0 195.4
                          Assault 5,847.3 340.1
                          Burglary 2,442.8 814.5
                          Automobile theft 2,067.5 526.5
                          A fertile area for Obama & now Clinton to fudge results.
                          2008 Presidential Election

                          Obama 13,846 votes (99.23%)
                          McCain 83 votes (0.60%)
                          Others 23 votes (0.17%)

                          Those are some beautiful results.
                          So the # of people legally able to vote was 19,098, the amount of votes cast was 13,952. That......isn't at all newsworthy or even worth the effort you took to create this post. This is as standards as standard gets.
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                          • 15805
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-10-12
                            • 3604

                            #328
                            Originally posted by greenhippo
                            So the # of people legally able to vote was 19,098, the amount of votes cast was 13,952. That......isn't at all newsworthy or even worth the effort you took to create this post. This is as standards as standard gets.
                            That's 73% of eligible voters voting in E. St. Louis in the 2008 election, while the average turnout was 57%
                            nationwide. These E. St. Louis citizens must be very civic minded.

                            June 2: 2005: Voter Fraud in East St. Louis

                            It used to be called “walking around money.” Now, according to the St. Clair County Democratic Central Committee’s reports to the State Board of Elections, it’s called, “election expenses.” $76,150 was reportedly paid to 51 individuals living in East St. Louis days before the 2004 election. Cooperating voters were paid $5-$10 per vote, according to a report by the Belleville News-Democrat.

                            “Powell explained that the amount was based on multiplying the expected number of voters in the precinct times an amount of five dollars each,” according to a FBI report obtained by the Belleville paper. According to the indictment, Powell “explained that each Democratic precinct committeeman needed to determine how much he or she would pay voters in their own precinct.” Powell allegedly asked them to turn in “election day budgets…requesting funds from the St. Clair County Democratic Committee to be used during the November 2, 2004 general election.” After discussing “these election day budget requests with members of the St. Clair County Democratic committee, the East St. Louis precinct committeemen received funds” from the county central committee “in most instance[s] to the amount requested” on October 31st, according to one plea agreement.

                            Powell was a member of the East St. Louis City Council until he was voted out of office in April. Two weeks before that election, he was indicted for vote fraud.

                            In late March three other Democratic precinct committeemen–Lillie Nichols, Leroy Scott, Jr., and Terrance Stith–pled guilty to “knowingly and willfully” paying or offering “to pay voters for voting” during a federal elections....

                            Standing trial with Powell will be fellow Democratic precinct committeemen Jesse Lewis, Sheila Thomas and Kevin Ellis. Ellis precinct worker Yvette Johnson is also charged.

                            Ellis is also charged with writing a “threatening and misleading” letter to Republican election judges “in order to intimidate” them “so they would not appear at their assigned polling place.”

                            Just the tip of the iceberg!
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                            • Triple_D_Bet
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-12-11
                              • 7626

                              #329
                              Originally posted by 15805
                              That's 73% of eligible voters voting in E. St. Louis in the 2008 election, while the average turnout was 57%
                              nationwide. These E. St. Louis citizens must be very civic minded.

                              June 2: 2005: Voter Fraud in East St. Louis

                              It used to be called “walking around money.” Now, according to the St. Clair County Democratic Central Committee’s reports to the State Board of Elections, it’s called, “election expenses.” $76,150 was reportedly paid to 51 individuals living in East St. Louis days before the 2004 election. Cooperating voters were paid $5-$10 per vote, according to a report by the Belleville News-Democrat.

                              “Powell explained that the amount was based on multiplying the expected number of voters in the precinct times an amount of five dollars each,” according to a FBI report obtained by the Belleville paper. According to the indictment, Powell “explained that each Democratic precinct committeeman needed to determine how much he or she would pay voters in their own precinct.” Powell allegedly asked them to turn in “election day budgets…requesting funds from the St. Clair County Democratic Committee to be used during the November 2, 2004 general election.” After discussing “these election day budget requests with members of the St. Clair County Democratic committee, the East St. Louis precinct committeemen received funds” from the county central committee “in most instance[s] to the amount requested” on October 31st, according to one plea agreement.

                              Powell was a member of the East St. Louis City Council until he was voted out of office in April. Two weeks before that election, he was indicted for vote fraud.

                              In late March three other Democratic precinct committeemen–Lillie Nichols, Leroy Scott, Jr., and Terrance Stith–pled guilty to “knowingly and willfully” paying or offering “to pay voters for voting” during a federal elections....

                              Standing trial with Powell will be fellow Democratic precinct committeemen Jesse Lewis, Sheila Thomas and Kevin Ellis. Ellis precinct worker Yvette Johnson is also charged.

                              Ellis is also charged with writing a “threatening and misleading” letter to Republican election judges “in order to intimidate” them “so they would not appear at their assigned polling place.”

                              Just the tip of the iceberg!
                              Sounds plausible...but I would be pretty surprised if the same thing wasn't being done by Republicans as well
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                              • greenhippo
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-15-12
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                                #330
                                Originally posted by 15805
                                That's 73% of eligible voters voting in E. St. Louis in the 2008 election, while the average turnout was 57%
                                nationwide. These E. St. Louis citizens must be very civic minded.

                                June 2: 2005: Voter Fraud in East St. Louis

                                It used to be called “walking around money.” Now, according to the St. Clair County Democratic Central Committee’s reports to the State Board of Elections, it’s called, “election expenses.” $76,150 was reportedly paid to 51 individuals living in East St. Louis days before the 2004 election. Cooperating voters were paid $5-$10 per vote, according to a report by the Belleville News-Democrat.

                                “Powell explained that the amount was based on multiplying the expected number of voters in the precinct times an amount of five dollars each,” according to a FBI report obtained by the Belleville paper. According to the indictment, Powell “explained that each Democratic precinct committeeman needed to determine how much he or she would pay voters in their own precinct.” Powell allegedly asked them to turn in “election day budgets…requesting funds from the St. Clair County Democratic Committee to be used during the November 2, 2004 general election.” After discussing “these election day budget requests with members of the St. Clair County Democratic committee, the East St. Louis precinct committeemen received funds” from the county central committee “in most instance[s] to the amount requested” on October 31st, according to one plea agreement.

                                Powell was a member of the East St. Louis City Council until he was voted out of office in April. Two weeks before that election, he was indicted for vote fraud.

                                In late March three other Democratic precinct committeemen–Lillie Nichols, Leroy Scott, Jr., and Terrance Stith–pled guilty to “knowingly and willfully” paying or offering “to pay voters for voting” during a federal elections....

                                Standing trial with Powell will be fellow Democratic precinct committeemen Jesse Lewis, Sheila Thomas and Kevin Ellis. Ellis precinct worker Yvette Johnson is also charged.

                                Ellis is also charged with writing a “threatening and misleading” letter to Republican election judges “in order to intimidate” them “so they would not appear at their assigned polling place.”

                                Just the tip of the iceberg!
                                Tip of the iceberg is one example from 12 years ago?
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                                • ByeShea
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                                  • 06-30-08
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                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by greenhippo
                                  Why would you or anyone expect a higher vote count than registered voters?
                                  Why would anyone expect vote fraud, could it be that it has been happening every election?
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                                  • DwightShrute
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                                    • 01-17-09
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                                    #332
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                                    • crazykind
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-15-10
                                      • 176

                                      #333
                                      LOL at all of the voter fraud trumpanzees

                                      Please check in here if you would risk a felony on your record and multiple years in prison in order to cast a vote for someone else
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
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                                        #334
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                                        • greenhippo
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                                          • 02-15-12
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                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by ByeShea
                                          Why would anyone expect vote fraud, could it be that it has been happening every election?
                                          You going to back that up with facts? I see zero in your post.
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                                          • DwightShrute
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                                            • 01-17-09
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                                            #336
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                                            • rkelly110
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 10-05-09
                                              • 39691

                                              #337
                                              voter fraud. Those who get their asses kicked because their message sucks, of course will say there's fraud.

                                              Does anyone here vote? Sure doesn't sound like it.

                                              Let's break down the voting process.

                                              1. you have to register to vote. Putting your name and address on a piece of paper or online.

                                              2. when you go to vote, there are at least 3 or 4 people there to take your name. One to write it in a ledger
                                              (show your ID if required), one to hunt your name in the register, where you SIGN your name and one to
                                              take you to the voting booth.

                                              Let's break down how cheating could be possible.

                                              1. all of the polling people would have to be on the take. Is that possible? Yeah.
                                              2. polling people would allow people to bypass the sign in process and go vote multiple times or do it themselves.
                                              3. absentee voting. They could do it multiple times and then go vote in person. Good record keeping would stop that.

                                              The question is why? Would the little money they would make, if paid, offset jail time and a big fine if caught?

                                              Thought I'd bring some common sense to the bullshit that's flying around.
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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                voter fraud. Those who get their asses kicked because their message sucks, of course will say there's fraud.

                                                Does anyone here vote? Sure doesn't sound like it.

                                                Let's break down the voting process.

                                                1. you have to register to vote. Putting your name and address on a piece of paper or online.

                                                2. when you go to vote, there are at least 3 or 4 people there to take your name. One to write it in a ledger
                                                (show your ID if required), one to hunt your name in the register, where you SIGN your name and one to
                                                take you to the voting booth.

                                                Let's break down how cheating could be possible.

                                                1. all of the polling people would have to be on the take. Is that possible? Yeah.
                                                2. polling people would allow people to bypass the sign in process and go vote multiple times or do it themselves.
                                                3. absentee voting. They could do it multiple times and then go vote in person. Good record keeping would stop that.

                                                The question is why? Would the little money they would make, if paid, offset jail time and a big fine if caught?

                                                Thought I'd bring some common sense to the bullshit that's flying around.

                                                similiar to when liars who are caught will often say respond the other person is a troll. Very transparent.
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                                                • brooks85
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 44709

                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                  voter fraud. Those who get their asses kicked because their message sucks, of course will say there's fraud.

                                                  Does anyone here vote? Sure doesn't sound like it.

                                                  Let's break down the voting process.

                                                  1. you have to register to vote. Putting your name and address on a piece of paper or online.

                                                  2. when you go to vote, there are at least 3 or 4 people there to take your name. One to write it in a ledger
                                                  (show your ID if required), one to hunt your name in the register, where you SIGN your name and one to
                                                  take you to the voting booth.

                                                  Let's break down how cheating could be possible.

                                                  1. all of the polling people would have to be on the take. Is that possible? Yeah.
                                                  2. polling people would allow people to bypass the sign in process and go vote multiple times or do it themselves.
                                                  3. absentee voting. They could do it multiple times and then go vote in person. Good record keeping would stop that.
                                                  The question is why? Would the little money they would make, if paid, offset jail time and a big fine if caught?

                                                  Thought I'd bring some common sense to the bullshit that's flying around.

                                                  also, rkelly showing he has NO idea what is happening in his own coutnry but that isn't news. The same idiot who said more people were on SSDI than welfare(only off by 10x), truly an idiot and he did us all a disservice by having kids.
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                                                  • Triple_D_Bet
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-12-11
                                                    • 7626

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                    voter fraud. Those who get their asses kicked because their message sucks, of course will say there's fraud.

                                                    Does anyone here vote? Sure doesn't sound like it.

                                                    Let's break down the voting process.

                                                    1. you have to register to vote. Putting your name and address on a piece of paper or online.

                                                    2. when you go to vote, there are at least 3 or 4 people there to take your name. One to write it in a ledger
                                                    (show your ID if required), one to hunt your name in the register, where you SIGN your name and one to
                                                    take you to the voting booth.

                                                    Let's break down how cheating could be possible.

                                                    1. all of the polling people would have to be on the take. Is that possible? Yeah.
                                                    2. polling people would allow people to bypass the sign in process and go vote multiple times or do it themselves.
                                                    3. absentee voting. They could do it multiple times and then go vote in person. Good record keeping would stop that.

                                                    The question is why? Would the little money they would make, if paid, offset jail time and a big fine if caught?

                                                    Thought I'd bring some common sense to the bullshit that's flying around.
                                                    Absentee voting is the most efficient way to do it, but the numbers are the main thing keeping fraud from tilting an election. The logistics necessary to undetectably cast enough fraudulent votes to change even a close outcome in a national race are impractical, let alone when the margins are as wide as they are currently. There's a reason it's not widespread: it's more efficient to spend resources getting votes the old-fashioned way, by buying media and blasting lies and half-truths as people.

                                                    Having spent most of my life with electronics and embedded systems, I can tell you that electronic voting machines have the potential to make fraud a lot easier to carry out by technicians with any clue what they're doing. It's not particularly difficult to go in and change a bunch of people's votes electronically, and there aren't any solid safeguards against that I can think of. The main limiting factor is still the logistics thankfully; it has to be done in person to avoid detection, and coordinating that many techs, each of whom could blow the whole thing open and hold it over any candidates head forever, isn't practical.

                                                    I've never been asked to show ID when voting, but I don't have any opposition to it...regardless of the fraud it would or wouldn't prevent, if we have to show ID for other government interactions, showing it to vote is a perfectly reasonable precaution.
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                                                    • ByeShea
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                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                      • 8093

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by greenhippo
                                                      You going to back that up with facts? I see zero in your post.
                                                      Philadelphia 2012 had precincts totaling tens of thousands of votes for Obama and ZERO for Romney.

                                                      The count is fact. It is also far, far out of any statistical outlier, an impossible result. Pure vote fraud.

                                                      O: 19,605
                                                      R: 0

                                                      It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.
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                                                      • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                        • 12-12-11
                                                        • 7626

                                                        #342
                                                        Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                        Philadelphia 2012 had precincts totaling tens of thousands of votes for Obama and ZERO for Romney.

                                                        The count is fact. It is also far, far out of any statistical outlier, an impossible result. Pure vote fraud.

                                                        O: 19,605
                                                        R: 0

                                                        http://www.philly.com/philly/news/po...html?mobi=true
                                                        "When the Inquirer went looking for Republican voters in some of those divisions, they couldn't find any: Thus the results in Philadelphia were reflective not of an "impossible" statistical anomaly but rather of a general historical trend widely seen throughout the city."

                                                        A list of instances supposedly proving voter fraud in the 2012 U.S. presidential election only demonstrates that some people are really bad at math.
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                                                        • greenhippo
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                                                          • 02-15-12
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                                                          #343
                                                          ByeShea says every election is rife with election fraud. Responds with a link to an incident that does not equate to even a single instance of voter fraud. How can a person with even an average level of intelligence make this claim and not be able to back it up with simple, easily found, easily verifiable facts? Very sad.
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                                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-12-11
                                                            • 7626

                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by greenhippo
                                                            ByeShea says every election is rife with election fraud. Responds with a link to an incident that does not equate to even a single instance of voter fraud. How can a person with even an average level of intelligence make this claim and not be able to back it up with simple, easily found, easily verifiable facts? Very sad.
                                                            Presidential election talking points don't often seem to involve facts, just opinions which are considered sacrosanct. If people evaluated based on facts instead of which lies resonated with them, it certainly would't be the circus it is...but psychology is pretty dependable in big groups, people allow themselves to be manipulated and we get a circus that's very profitable to the media we often claim as the source of the things we believe
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                                                            • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-20-09
                                                              • 2560

                                                              #345
                                                              Originally posted by greenhippo
                                                              ByeShea says every election is rife with election fraud. Responds with a link to an incident that does not equate to even a single instance of voter fraud. How can a person with even an average level of intelligence make this claim and not be able to back it up with simple, easily found, easily verifiable facts? Very sad.
                                                              because FoxNews does the same thing every day & people think it's ok to argue like this also

                                                              voter fraud!!@! why? how? because I said so!
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                • 01-17-09
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                                                                #346
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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                                  • 39691

                                                                  #347
                                                                  The more Trump bashes Hillary, the more I'm voting for her.

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                                                                  • Dr.Gonzo
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                                                                    • 12-05-09
                                                                    • 4660

                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                    The more Trump bashes Hillary, the more I'm voting for her.

                                                                    SJWs always lie, SJWs always double down.
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                                                                    • rkelly110
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                                      • 39691

                                                                      #349
                                                                      Don't know what an SJW is, but I don't lie. Doing my homework, Hillary is the clear choice.

                                                                      As much as I hate the Repubs in office, even they are seeing the light and voting Hillary.
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                                                                      • brooks85
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                                        • 44709

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                        Don't know what an SJW is, but I don't lie. Doing my homework, Hillary is the clear choice.

                                                                        As much as I hate the Repubs in office, even they are seeing the light and voting Hillary.


                                                                        no one could honestly agree with that based on your post history of lying over and over. You're pitiful
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