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I did hear one conspiracy kook that actually made a little sense.
His stance is 'what does Detroit offer to the NFL that Dallas doesn't, zero. He went on to say NFL licensed Cowboy merchandise fly off shelves, that the jersey sales alone is a 1.07 billion dollar business'
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Damn Opie lol. Guess it's easy when your team is a favorable brand tho. Much tougher to be a Bills, Chiefs, Texans , Vikings, Chargers fan and many more. They have to work a bit harder I guess to get somewhere. Even my team Raiders is one of the biggest brands and most important franchises but league hates us. Can guarantee poor Redskins fans won't have to worry about a SB appearance anytime soon till they change name and appease the pc p#ssies anyhow. Not just because they suck but Nfl wants no part of that brand representing the shield on its biggest stage.
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I'll agree with you Nasher on that. I live in Detroit and have never purchased any type of Lions merchandise. I love my team... but I hate the colors and anything with "Lions" print. Anyone would look cool in Dallas gear... that's a given.
I always calculate every play in my head... based upon time remaining... original line... and also 2H line etc. I watched that PI play LIVE. I said to myself... in exact order in my head... while watching the game...
1. That's fukking pass interference right there!!!! They won't call it. Then I see the flag thrown.
2. The flag is down... fuk me. They'll pick it up. I know they will. The ref announces it on his PA mic.
3. I jump up and down because I'm excited as fuk!!! Because once it's announced... it stands.
4. I hear the roar of the Cowboys crowd... and I said WTF just happened?? Fan out on the field... with his cok hanging out or something???
5. I hear Joe Buck's annoying voice saying... "The call was overturned"
6. I then said... Fuk my life.Comment -
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Damn Opie lol. Guess it's easy when your team is a favorable brand tho. Much tougher to be a Bills, Chiefs, Texans , Vikings, Chargers fan and many more. They have to work a bit harder I guess to get somewhere. Even my team Raiders is one of the biggest brands and most important franchises but league hates us. Can guarantee poor Redskins fans won't have to worry about a SB appearance anytime soon till they change name and appease the pc p#ssies anyhow. Not just because they suck but Nfl wants no part of that brand representing the shield on its biggest stage.
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1) I think I'm about to have a stroke, just like whenever I hear that Animals song by Maroon 5, I think I'm about to have a stroke.
2) I want to puncture my eardrums with a bic-pen.
3) I want to bludgeon my temple in with a spade shovel.
Question?
Do you think Joe spits or swallows Troy's splooge?
Inquiring minds want to know.Comment -
Report: NFL Admits To Lions Refs Should Have Called Hold On Game Winning Drive
From CBS Sports Link
I believe this might be the photo??? But whatever it is... this wasn't called... should of been an offensive hold.
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League now saying "holding" should have been call on Hitchens. Looked more like P.I. by defintion of rule but whatever. Also hear alot of backpedaling and excuse making far as officiating crews not used to working together, incompetence by officials etc. So what the league is basically saying is we are too stupid to go with crews used to working together for playoff games. Or our rules are so arbitrary and debatable based on interpretation that 2 "all star" zebras cannot come to a conclusion on a simple call.
So no tampering or favortism here (wink wink) lol. Not sure what's worse a corrupt system or one with gross incompetence at highest level. One thing is certain tho both equally destructive to integrity of the game.Comment -
let it go Detroit posters...
time to focus on the divisional roundComment -
Stfu Big bear not everyone in here is crying. Love how you cannot have a unbiased discussion around here at times without some fool calling you a sour grape loser on a bet or blind homer. Neither of those applies to me as. Raider guy. And didn't care much for this gm betting wise so had a lousy $50 teaser riding with Lions/ov. So that last td helped me needed somebody to score one. What's wrong with raising awareness on things or calling shit out for what it is at times? That's what invokes change and can make things better for integrity of league. If people wanna bury their heads in sand and believe all is right in world and Santa is not a myth either then so be that too.
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We should NOT worry about whats past thats all.
we still all have a chance to score big this weekend.
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Bear I'm fully aware of the upcoming games being bigger priority.And they are on the brain and being looked at. Some of us are mentally capable tho of processing and thinking about more than 1 thing at a time however. Haha just fukkin with ya Bear
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Well if you think a little more, you'll realize that while TV rating and merchandising is a huge business, the marginal impact of having a team like the Cowboys instead of the Lions is very small indeed.
It is not worth risking you entire league's existence for fractions of a rating point.Comment -
NFL is the most corrupt organization in the world. The refs are peons of the commissioner.Comment -
That's the thing Briguy and where the league is most brilliant! They have a rule book with "rules" in it which are clearly defined. However when something goes awry they can always invoke the oops were sorry it's human error or 2 guys saw it differently angle. Also safe from any kind of prosecution or investigation due to the fact they are defined as theatrical entertainment or some shit from way back. League is also VERY arrogant and know they could have Roger cokksucker Goodell show up at your house , fukk your wife, and take a piss on you while sitting your on couch drinking beer , eating funyans before he exits the door. And you won't do a go#damn thing about it cause all you care about is if your Bills win and Peyton helps your fantasy team. BahahaComment -
^^^ Except you're not risking your entire league's existence. Despite the one-sided calls towards the end of the game that clearly impacted the outcome, all we really have is benign chatter over whether the call(s) were right or wrong, and that's all we'll really ever have. So when the league is shading calls one way or the other, they'll always have "plausible denial" on their side because officials are human, so error is inevitable.
Furthermore, you can't assert the absolute value of the Cowboys advancing over the Lions as being only "marginal." The Cowboys have a larger fan base to start, but they also are a more compelling story to draw viewers to the divisional round. Having Romo, Murray, and Bryant, travel to Lambeau field, as undefeated road warriors, facing Rodgers and company, who are undefeated at home, is a wet dream for NFL brass.
"America's Team" having far exceeded expectations this year, now get a shot at the seemingly impossible, winning on the frozen tundra. It's like Rocky getting a crack at Apollo. If, after all the Cowboys had accomplished this year, Dallas had simply fizzled out in the first round and lost to the Lions, it would have been a very anticlimactic start to the playoffs.Comment -
That was in response to BriGuy's last post, by the way.Comment -
First of all, they are not "safe from prosecution" if they got caught fixing games.
Second of all, nothing would destroy a league faster than finding out there was a league-wide conspiracy to rig outcomes. They could survive an isolated incident and a rogue player or ref (like, say, Tim Donaghy) but if the league was discovered to be rigging games, people would go to jail and BILLIONS would be lost.
Anyone with an iota of intelligence that looks at the risk/reward ratio knows that such a thing would never happen. It would be like having a job that pays you $10 million a year and doing something illegal and risking everything for 5 cents. I understand rich people (and corporations) break the law, but they aren't going to do it for pennies.Comment -
You and I on same page Eddy! League is run by $$ and that's it plain and simple. Tv and sponsors being the main source and they want a star on helmet ov a Lion. People ask well where has that star been past 20 years the? Answer is simple they put a crap product on field which was not very competitive at highest level. Still have to "earn" your way deep in playoffs or play for a Lombardi but certain brands are more likely to get greased thru in certain scenarios.
Just because your team is irrelevant or not an important brand doesn't mean you have no hope either just look at Saints , Seahawks. Both been irrelevant for decades and didn't matter. Then you bring in a coach, QB , build a good team and things can change overnight. Then we get to hear all the annoying c#nt fans like the 12th man pounding their chests and talking shit every 5 seconds about what a great franchise they are.
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If you rigged games at the league level, then yes you are risking your entire existence. All it would take is one ref who decided to get rich and write a tell-all book or one executive who got caught and made a plea bargain with the prosecution.
This is the NFL playoffs. Everyone is tuning in no matter what. The ratings boost of having Dallas at GB instead of Detroit at GB is marginal at best.
If having Dallas is such a great ratings boost and the league rigs things, then why has Dallas won only 1 playoff game in about 20 years prior to this past Sunday?
And yet that is exactly what has happened many, many times in the past.
You look ridiculous saying the league is rigged to help benefit the Cowboys to advance because they are such a huge draw when fact is they have lost their first playoff game against the Panthers, Vikings, Seahawks, Panthers again, Vikings again and Cardinals since their last victory. None of those teams are exactly huge ratings draws either, so why let all those teams beat up on Dallas if things are rigged?
But ya... sure... the league is rigged to help the Cowboys. That's why the Vikes beat the Cowboys twice in the first round of the playoffs, the Panthers beat the Cowboys twice, and so did the Cards and Seahawks.Last edited by BriGuy; 01-06-15, 07:53 PM.Comment -
Briguy you just made my point. The nba survived fixing games scandal and it barely was a scrape on knee for them. If you believe Timay was rogue then I guess you will believe about anything.
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The NBA scandal did not demonstrate any sort of league-wide conspiracy to benefit certain teams over others. Like I said, you can get rogue refs or players, but nothing league wide.
What you're saying is moronic to anyone with a brain who understands risk/reward. You're the reason casinos are so rich so part of me is very thankful for people like you.Comment -
We can simply agree to disagree then. Calling someone a moron for having a different take always an intelligent response. But hey
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Games are not won and lost off one play or one call. The Lions didn't get the PI call but there were a lot of other plays the Lions can point to as a reason for losing. How about the fact they only scored 3 points in the 2nd half.Comment -
R.P. gets it.
BriGuy... you mention the Cowboys' past losses in the playoffs as "evidence" that the league doesn't care about them, but you're missing the point completely. Nobody is saying that every time the Cowboys make the playoffs, they are going to be the darling that the NFL coddles into the next round. Every year is different.
What I am saying is that the Cowboys were a pretty big story throughout the entire 2014 football season, and it was in the best interest of the league for that saga to continue. The Lions, on the other hand, weren't really ever a focal point in any narrative or subplot that developed, and thus, were more "expendable."
Now this does not mean there was a "league wide conspiracy" that would jeopardize it's very existence. This also does not mean that the outcome was predetermined and that the Lions were helpless to override the "script." What I am saying is that if the game was neck and neck, which it virtually was, and it came down to subjective calls from the officials, then the team that benefits the league (in this particular instance, not necessarily every year) was probably going to get the benefit of the doubt. The Lions had their chances to win, but when they failed to exert their will and put the game away, they left the officials with the power to determine the outcome, and that's what happened.Comment -
8-0 at home versus 8-0 on the road.
Something has to give.
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Yeah Munny this is all business and marketing strategy 101. Funny how guys like us never use the word conspiracy we merely suggest the league rather blatantly tips their hand at times and helps "nudge" or give certain teams a little extra help in crucial situations late in tight games.
Don't think most of us with this disposition are ignorant enough to believe the Girls could not have still won gm without that flag being picked up but it most certainly helped and had a big impact on outcome in a VERY crucial moment. It's everyone else mentioning conspiracy as if some of us who think this is a possibly are dumb enough to think Goodell and a bunch of cronies are all sitting at a boardroom table Friday before playoffs start twisting their moustaches while drawing up their master plan.
Another thing never mentioned is the "shell shock factor". People say hey Lions didn't step up and close out. Well thing is if you get fukked by a bogus flag or missed call early in gm not as big a deal we got time right? Toward end of gm tho and you been in control pretty much whole way then refs kick you in balls with no explanation given. You are pissed, confused, and disoriented to some degree beyond belief. Then reality sets in....oh yeah those guys have a Star on their helmut and I got a fukkin Lion on mine.
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When I played ball (baseball) in college I once hit a bases loaded 3 run double over third base.
I roped that ball, f'n laser. Spanked the shit out of it.
3" inside the foul line.
However, it was not a 3 run double, it was called foul.
Everybody (including the opposing manager) said that ball was 3" inside the line.
I was livid, bat shit crazy.
I get back in the box, 2-2 pitch, pitcher grooved me a hanging curve, 6 times out of 10 I hammer that Uncle Charlie, struck out swining, I was so livid I was 2 seconds ahead of the pitchComment
