It's kind of the other way around for me. I don't get laid because I spend all day gambling and watching sports rather than the opposite. I suppose I would have a chance if I changed my whole outlook on life and became more normal and actually tried to go out on Friday and Saturday nights (other than to go watch sports that is), I just don't do any of those things.
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pretty funny when this clown tries to paint himself as the truth teller when he has never once called out his little cyber buddy for all the times he has lied, cheated and scammed even when they are happening right under his nose.
where were you when twizzler posted this pick 20 mins after tip off?
where were you when twizzler posted a bogus line right after it dropped 12 cents but used the old line?
where were you when he "forgot" to add a losing pick to his spreadsheet?
where were you when he "forgot" to add his entire season of mlb picks to his spreadsheet?
or his nba playoffs where he dropped over 200 air units and refused to add it to his spreadsheet:
added non-posted picks to his spreadsheet in order to make himself look like he "won":
where were you when he announced he was omitting his entire season of cbb picks because he lost his ass? then proceeded to omit march madness too because he lost his ass there too?
tell us twizzler's overall 2013-4 nba record, nfl record, cbb record, cfb record, nhl record and golf record because he refuses to tell us because he lost his ass at every single one of them. im sure you wont because you will make your master upset.
you're nothing but twizzler's little lap dog bitch who defends a known liar/fraud/scammer because he's the only one who ever talks to you. it's pretty funny when u two losers chat all day and night like two losers who have no social life or girlfriends.
i have never entered your picks thread because frankly i dont care, but now i am curious because someone who defends a known liar/fraud/scammer is probably one himself. so i will be paying attention from now on.
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Will take care of this in 10 hours approx. Watching the end of the game now and then gotta pack up and leave.
It's gotta be noted before I even start though that you have been exposed for lying multiple times about your record to the point where it can't just be a coincidence or lack of math skills.Comment -
Seto buried. He's just weaslers little bitch lolpretty funny when this clown tries to paint himself as the truth teller when he has never once called out his little cyber buddy for all the times he has lied, cheated and scammed even when they are happening right under his nose.
where were you when twizzler posted this pick 20 mins after tip off?
where were you when twizzler posted a bogus line right after it dropped 12 cents but used the old line?
where were you when he "forgot" to add a losing pick to his spreadsheet?
where were you when he "forgot" to add his entire season of mlb picks to his spreadsheet?
or his nba playoffs where he dropped over 200 air units and refused to add it to his spreadsheet:
added non-posted picks to his spreadsheet in order to make himself look like he "won":
where were you when he announced he was omitting his entire season of cbb picks because he lost his ass? then proceeded to omit march madness too because he lost his ass there too?
tell us twizzler's overall 2013-4 nba record, nfl record, cbb record, cfb record, nhl record and golf record because he refuses to tell us because he lost his ass at every single one of them. im sure you wont because you will make your master upset.
you're nothing but twizzler's little lap dog bitch who defends a known liar/fraud/scammer because he's the only one who ever talks to you. it's pretty funny when u two losers chat all day and night like two losers who have no social life or girlfriends.
i have never entered your picks thread because frankly i dont care, but now i am curious because someone who defends a known liar/fraud/scammer is probably one himself. so i will be paying attention from now on.
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crusty...
1) some of us lose track of time. the game was in the first quarter. even if it was at the peak of dallas' lead as you claim (16-8), you should know that kind of a score means nothing in a basketball game. you have several times exaggerated this to make it look much worse than it was which quite frankly makes you a much bigger liar than wizzler is.
2) you have both accused the other of posting bogus lines. i can't prove either of you right or wrong so i won't concern myself with this
3) forgetting to add one pick can happen to anyone. however claiming you went 5-2 the previous week when you went 5-5 and finished down is blatant lying. which is... you know, what YOU did, liar.
4) he didn't "forget" to add his entire season dumbass, he's been tracking his plays since the beginning of the football season. you want to go back to include those because it's convenient for you. how about going back and including the 2014 nba regular season which he killed? 2012 and 2013 playoffs? 2013 world series? 2014 superbowl? I can go on and on. the point is the current spreadsheet is what it is and tracks plays since football started.
5) same point. you want to add the playoffs but not the regular season or the previous playoffs. selective selective selective. you're outing yourself more and more. it may be time for you to stop and crawl back into the hole you came from and stop embarassing yourself.
6) you claim he's a scammer? has he scammed anyone here? can you prove this?
7) knock yourself out. i'm the most honest poster on this site in terms of keeping records. it's to the point where i screenshotted all the reasons for my spreadsheet edits/deletes to prove they were due to typing errors and not fraudulent recordkeeping. i have on occasion corrected my record a few months later after doing a recount to discover i'd forgotten like 0.8 units of losses in what was at the time about 100 units profit. i am honest. you are not. get over it.
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Wow, that is rich coming from you. Dude you are EVERYONE's little bitch. You just chime in behind others with little lame one-liners, and never anything gambling related. I mean, that's not surprising, we all know you're a broke dikk fukk who doesn't even gamble.
You have no brain of your own. Here are some of your recent posts:
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What happened to lakerkid? I thought he was big time?Comment -
Wow, Seto defending TWizzle is BEYOND pathetic, I can't decide which is worse: a loser Twizzle or another guy defending a PROVEN loser...And why would you associate yourself with him anyways? Don't people strive to excellence and try to improve not digress? Anyways, rant is over...
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patty i am not even concerning myself with smoke. i suspect he is actually mentally handicapped. i bashed him a couple of times the day he got back but it quickly gets old and not very satisfying to bash someone which such a non-existent level of intelligence.
crusty on the other hand has an agenda for whatever reason. i don't think he is fundamentally a stupid person, he knows very well what he's doing. now why he has that agenda who knows.
my guess would be that he tailed lakerboy a few years ago when lakerboy had the reputation of being one of the best cappers on the site on a couple losing plays, got buried, and has had something against lakerboy and anyone remotely friendly to him ever since. it's a theory that could be way off though. he knows perfectly well what he's doing though. maybe he's just bored and trying to have fun. i really have no clue lol.Comment -
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If I prove, tracking every play (i don't want to hear any shit about fake lines or mistimed posts or whatever. i'll track it exactly like i tracked crusty's), that wizzle was up overall in NBA betting last season will you (crusty is more than welcome to accept this as well) leave SBR forever? I am not 100 percent sure of this but almost. I can guarantee he was up in the 2011-12 and 2012-13 seasons though, if you'd prefer that.Comment -
There's no doubt twizzle pics lots and lots of losers although most of us are in the same boat
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Gold you don't have a clue here. Trust me on this. You are being manipulated. I must commend crusty for very effective techniques though since he has managed to convince the entire forum wizzle was some laughingstock and the "worst gambler ever".
My intention is not to revert that because #1 it's impossible #2 i don't have the energy to do so #3 it would be a little too pathetic. yeah, more than what i did today.
However I am at least trying to set the record straight with a few guys and expose crusty for what he is doing. unfortunately, trying to convince people he is a liar won't work very well with the crowd here, however proving he is himself a pathetic losing gambler seems to somewhat do the trick.
I am pretty sure if we tracked every single one of his plays since he joined the site he would be up. However while I am willing to do some brief recordkeeping to disprove what crusty is saying, I am not willing to go that far. Would probably literally take 100 hours between finding all the threads, the record tally and checking for mistakes.Comment -
it's not a claim, it's a fact.
how did i know the exact score (16-8) within seconds of when he posted?
what happens when u place a bet long after the game starts? ur bet is voided and it's grounds for termination of your account. so professionals who do this for a living think its an unfair advantage but some random douche doesn't? uh, call me crazy but i'll take the words of the pros.
if u still think otherwise, how about we put your theory to the test? we can have an nba picks contest... and i am willing to bet $5k on this. you post ur picks normally and i'll post mine during the 1st quarter. how about it buddy boy, u in?
so some pathological liar screams "bogus line" u believe it? how about askig for proof? unlike him, i have mine.Originally posted by seto
twizzler posted his pick at 10:21am dodgers +127
the linemovement shows +115 at 10:19am.
so not only did this lying pos have the benefit of knowing miggy was sitting but also got the much favorable line.
where did i claim this?Originally posted by seto
im talking about the 2013-4 seasons, moron. what were his nfl, cfb, cbb, nba, nhl, golf records because he never bothered to tell us.Originally posted by seto
when did i do this? cite it.Originally posted by seto
lying about records, fudging his spreadsheet, lying about lines, posting after games start, etc. every single tout wannabe has done this.Originally posted by seto
we'll see.Originally posted by seto7) knock yourself out. i'm the most honest poster on this site in terms of keeping records. it's to the point where i screenshotted all the reasons for my spreadsheet edits/deletes to prove they were due to typing errors and not fraudulent recordkeeping. i have on occasion corrected my record a few months later after doing a recount to discover i'd forgotten like 0.8 units of losses in what was at the time about 100 units profit. i am honest. you are not. get over it.
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I wasn't trying to associate you with crusty as in you two being the same person (unlike some others i don't accuse any two posters who have a common opinion on a topic to in fact be the same person), I was just insinuating that both of you are pretty sure he lost last year so both of you are free to accept what I suggested.
It's good to see a first somewhat open post to what I am trying to get though to people (ie the truth). His playoffs were a disaster, I'm not disputing that. Probably down around 100 in the playoffs. However he was up nearly 200 in the regular season...Comment -
do u not understand how stupid u sound?
why do we have to guess what his record was? why does he refuse to post his overall record?
the fraud tracked his record every day and entered them in to his spreadsheet within seconds.... then he started to lose his ass in the playoffs and the record/spreadsheet disappeared.Comment -
1) seems kinda convenient the score was 16-8, and not 16-10 as it was 20 seconds later or 13-8 as it was 21 seconds earlier? Why would you pick what just happens to be the largest lead? Of course I know what would happen in a real life scenario dummy but remember this is a forum. It can happen on occasion for, call me crazy, someone not to be able to post their bet at the very second they bet it (because bookies do offer us the possibility to bet right until tipoff) and if they post it 5 or 10 minutes later for whatever reason ( i can cite plenty if necessary), the team just may have a lead. Now if this was a regular occurence, I'd be suspicious as well. However is it? Once a year doesn't count as regular, sorry.
2) pretty much the same thing.
3) i just realised i misread your post when you said "5-1 in college and 5-2 the prior week so hoping to heat up in nfl also." fair enough. the claims you were winning multiple times when i posted your real record are somewhat embarassing though you gotta admit.
4) 2013/14, fine. so why do you want to include the NBA playoffs where he was down huge and not the regular season where he was up huge? Sounds like having an agenda to me.
5) exactly the same point i was trying to make
6) accusing someone of scamming is a big accusation. can you prove he has ever tried to make money selling his picks however much of a lair you believe him to be? i doubt it but go ahead if you can. i suspect you would've already done that by now if you could though.
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do you realise how stupid you sounded when you claimed he was 0-50 after a few weeks in the playoffs? do you claim people who go 150-125 are 0-125 too?
yeah, he didn't keep a record during the playoffs. i never disputed that or at least i don't think so. if that record were to be calculated though i am pretty sure it would not offset his regular season winnings.Comment -
I have a train to catch folks. I will be more than happy to resume this fascinating conversation in a few hours though, can't wait.
Or maybe we could all accept that I'm right and actually discusss something interesting like you know, sports or gambling. I doubt it though. It's rarely the SBR way.Comment -
Just posting here to prove I attended an online special olympics for tax purposes. Carry on.Comment -
maybe because that's the score i saw on the screen when i first noticed his pick? or do u think it was another conspiracy and that i must have waited until it was more "favorable" to post it?
of course u are too stupid to see the real point that he posted his pick when mavs were up and playing well. would he have still posted the mavs pick if spurs were up 16-8? even u can answer that question.
been posting picks for 4 years and never once posted a pick after they started. if the game has started, i dont post it even though i have proof of the bets.
2) pretty much the same thing.
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never lied about my record, never fudged my spreadsheet, never claimed to be winning when i wasnt. but if i did, maybe u'd be humping my leg too?
why does he brag and boast about his reg season record but claim amnesia when it comes to his playoff record? so keeping him somewhat honest about his record is having an agenda? sounds like he has an agenda, dont u think? u sound exactly like twizzler, it's kinda scary really.Originally posted by seto
what point is that? it's ok when ur daddy omits picks from his record & spreadsheet, lies about lines, posts long after games start, adds non-posted picks to his record, but others have agenda when they call him out on it?Originally posted by seto
i called out firedawg 6 months before he turned tout... called out moneyiswater a month before he scammed posters.... called out roxxxyfish before he turned tout.... called out another clown 4 months before he turned tout, his name escapes me. but as u can see, i have a nose for bs and scammers... and ur boy twizzler stinks.Originally posted by seto
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how stupid was it when he added non posted picks to his spreadsheet claiming he had a "great" day? oh wait, u probably think that was legit.
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crusty going quiet when one is having a bad run is what most gamblers do. you're just exposing him as a prototypical gambler. what matters to me is that the guy knows what he's talking about in the nba as the records show...
trying to show a guy you've never met up by manipulating his record to make bad runs seem a lot worse than they are on the other hand is not prototypical behaviour.
yes you have been right about a few keys and generally you pick fights with guys i can understand why one would have their doubts about (kerry being the most glaring example). right here you're just dealing with a normal guy who i happen to enjoy discussing sports with and who wins regularly in the sport i'm most interested in. if he turns out to be tout i'll admit i was wrong but i strongly doubt you're anywhere near right.Comment -
the guy who said "will update rec later" nearly every week during the nfl season last year and updated it once following his week 2 "update" (maybe twice but I doubt it, and funnily after a winning week) is making fun of someone else for not regularly updating their record.
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uh, no, he's not a "prototypical gambler,"....... ive never met anyone who is as dishonest, delusional and fraudulent as twizzler/lakerboy.
*adding non-posted picks to his spreadsheet then bragging how great he is isn't "prototypical"
*omitting entire seasons of picks but including a few winning picks isn't "prototypical"
*posting picks long after they start then claiming it didn't give him an advantage isn't "prototypical"
*chasing with 80 units air plays after betting 2 units all season isn't "protoptypical"
*posting fake and expired lines isn't "prototypical"
*bragging after winning once in 20 games when he's down a shit load of units isn't "prototypical"
pretty funny how you keep ignoring these blatant fraudulent behavior and even excusing them as something "prototypical" when there is no on else who do these.
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